Meatloaf63
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39 minutes ago, DBilz2500 said:
Yup agreed. He seems to lock down threads all the time even some that are buffalo related
Some of the threads were interesting and he’s shutting them down because he personally doesn’t think they are worth while. Pretty sad individual, doesn’t take much not to click on a thread if you are not interested, but maybe some others are, so if people are being respectful, not sure why he’s being such a dictator....
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Isn’t time that Chandler#81 shuts this thread down, it’s really not Bills related. Come on lock it down, you have locked about 37 other threads today....
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1 minute ago, XABI64 said:
Beane has basically given little attention to the playmaking positions this offseason. We went defense heavy again in the draft and we signed Brown and Beasley simply because without them we had the worst WR group in the league. Zay Jones doesn't belong in the NFL and beyond that we have little depth at the WR position.
We have no real TE threat, Singletary is a mystery we have no idea what he can do as the starter. And on top of all that the oline still looks disjointed as ever.
Ok?
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12 minutes ago, JoPar_v2 said:
The obsession with marginal talent here is cute.
You have no idea what talent he is. He’s the only wide receiver who can block with any result and efficiency, he had much better hands than Zay. The only thing you can say that the type of advantage he brings may be too close to what our tight ends provide. I would give him a chance before I gave another to Zay. More than likely,,we draft Zays replacement next year...
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2 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:
Maybe. Kraft isn't a stalwart
Ref blaming in mid season form...
Ignorance on display...
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On 8/24/2019 at 10:29 AM, Green Lightning said:
You must miss Fitzy then. Hey if you think that was a smart throw, and accurate throw and an acceptable risk, then we just view the game very differently. I prefer to win for once. Josh should learn the rules first before knowing when to break them.
Where did he say it was a smart throw? Where did he say he didn’t want to win?
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Just now, Nextmanup said:
It's stupid? You might disagree with the premise, but why would it be "stupid?"
You mean because it offers an opinion that might be detrimental to the team?
It's bizarre how the haters come out in these threads and viciously attack the OP for daring to suggest something that might be detrimental to the team.
There is a huge cult/follower mentality around this place.
As someone who values critical, independent thinking, it's scary as hell.
It’s stupid because he’s a rookie who hasn’t played a single game where we were game planing to stop an opposition. There is no way to come to any educated conclusion. So yes, it’s stupid...
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10 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
In what might be the last instalment of this year's series (I don't normally do one after game 4) here once again is Gunner's "Good Night / Bad Night". Who helped and who hurt as the Bills squeaked past the Lions in a sloppy, ugly week 3 pre-season contest.
Good Night for...
Tremaine Edmunds - Let me start here because Edmunds was comfortably the best Bill on the field last night. I think through two pre-season games he has been solid, had taken a step forward in his fundamentals and his gap discipline which were the elements that let him down in 2018. But last night he did all that and majorly flashed. Every time a Lions playmaker emerged beyond the line of scrimmage carrying the ball either on a run play or in the short passing game it seemed that Edmunds was there in perfect position to deliver the hit and stop the play dead in its tracks. Super impressive. With Edmunds the ability to make the special play has never been in question. If he starts making what we in the UK might call the "meat and potatoes plays" as a matter of course then he is going to be one of the best in the business.
Cody Ford - It has been an up and down summer for the Bills second round pick as he adjusts to life in the NFL. The Bills see him as a tackle and want him to play tackle and he has had some struggles against genuine speed rushers off the edge. But he held his own in pass protection last night and he showed to devastating effect on the Bills two minute drive to end the half the area where he really excels. He is a nasty, powerful, finisher as a run blocker as consecutive blocks sprung first Shady and then Singletary. Barring injury you can pencil Cody Ford in now as you week 1 right tackle.
Duke Williams (and a bit of Isaiah McKenzie) - I have said before that I am a little suspicious as to exactly how much pre-season performances count for receivers under this regime. Williams made it two touchdowns in two weeks and this one was very much of the contested catch, use your body strength variety - although if the Lions first team defense was out there Barkley's floating pass is likely being picked off by the best player in the NFL that the media never talk about - Darius Slay. What was even more significant than the touchdown catch for Williams was the niche he seems to have cut out for himself as the Bills go to run blocking receiver. He was out there a lot with the first team offense early in the game when Daboll went run heavy and that to me gives him a real shot now at this roster. I have been pretty consistent in my view that just being a big guy was not going to be enough for Williams to make the 53 he needed to do something else - whether it was run blocking or playing on special teams. Now that he is there is a chance his value is high enough to stick as a 5th or 6th receiver. While on the subject the misdirection sweep play that McKenzie ran in for the first touchdown is the exact reason that he is also making this roster. Daboll wants that in his playbook.
Shaq Lawson (and a bit of Darryl Johnson) - While the first and second units were in the game for both sides the most disruptive defensive lineman on the Bills was Shaq Lawson. One sack two other pressures and just generally in the backfield a bunch. I remain of the view that this guy should start over Jerry Hughes. He has clearly outplayed Trent Murphy in pre-season. I have no issue with them using Murphy as a situational pass rusher in obvious pass situations because he does have a wider range of pass rush techniques than Shaq. But as an overall, rounded defensive end to play early downs? It isn't even close. Shaq should start. While we are on defensive ends..... I had Darryl Johnson in my good week list for week 1 of pre-season. To me he has been close to a certainty for the roster from that point. I expect him to be used as a rotational and situational guy this year but the potential for him to develop into a starter down the road is clearly there. He has made this team.
The OAP running backs - So the reports of Shady McCoy's demise were extremely premature. When there are holes he can still explode through them with the best of them. When you are being hit 3 yards into the backfield on every snap as he was last year you could have Jim Brown, Barry Sanders or whoever else you want back there and still be going nowhere. With blocking Shady can still play. And Frank Gore at 36 is such an obvious major upgrade on Mike Tolbert and Chris Ivory who have filled that role the last two years it just bears a mention. Combined age 67 and both going to the Hall of Fame one day. Bills fans should enjoy watching the 1-2 punch of these two guys together this year. Because they won't be around much longer.
Bad Night for...
Special Teams - Through two games there seemed to be an improvement in the Bills coverage units. Not so last night when they were beyond awful. Hauschka made his kicks so hopefully he is back to his best but the punting situation is dire. The punting game should not be the adventure that it is when Bojo is out there. His bare numbers last night look good but they don't tell the story. He isn't good enough. Next.
Victor Bolden Jnr - Bolden Junior was this year's OTA stand out who disappeared when the going got tough. He was very much in the last chance saloon last night and he fumbled a kick return for a turnover. While we are on the guys in the battle behind Roberts in the return game - McCloud had a nice return or two but he is facing a battle now to make the cut. I expect someone gives him a PS berth for 2019 but I suspect it is not the Buffalo Bills.
Robert Foster - Through three pre-season games Robert Foster has one catch for 14 yards. Last night there were no sightings of him on offense but he was out there as a gunner on special teams. That does not mean good things as the battle behind him for a receiver spots hots up. Could it be Foster or Zay Jones who ends up on the outside looking in?
Backup corners - Two weeks ago when EJ Gaines was still healthy and UDFA Cam Lewis from Buffalo was putting himself into contention as Taron Johnson's backup in the slot I felt really good about where our corner depth was. Lewis missed last night injured, Gaines has been waived injured and suddenly other than Kevin Johnson our depth there is a worry. Not convinced on Siran Neal as the backup slot corner. Captain Munnerlyn has been a solid NFL servant but he looks done to me. It is a concern.
Josh Allen - Before I get the "troll" and "hater" labels please remember that I have had Josh Allen on my good week list in both weeks 1 and 2. I did not think he was good last night. There were extenuating circumstances - I mentioned in in the gameday thread but I think even more than normal for Quarterback Josh Allen needs rhythm. I don't think he is a guy who can stand back there in an offense that goes run, run pass and be expected to make the pass on 3rd down when the whole stadium knows we are passing - at least not at this stage in his career. And I think while upgraded the oline and the receiver we have probably won't win consistently enough in those scenarios either. So if you want Josh to make those plays on 3rd down he has to feel like the ball is in his hands on early downs too. Get him started early on the either way downs and you set him up for success much better. I know the Bills were intentionally working the run game last night - and that is fine - but the consequence of that was a rough outing for Josh. I think the first third down throw to Zay while not totally uncatchable was not where it needed to be - Zay had actually done a nice job getting separation and there was room to drop that in there in stride. The throw to Beasley that was behind him was a bad miss and the INT that was called back for roughing the passer was a terrible decision and a bad throw to boot. Allen made a couple of nice plays in the 2 minute drive and I am not suggesting last night is any cause for panic among Bills fans - but this was a rough outing for the starting Quarterback.
Right okay.... let's try and avoid this turning into a name calling thread about Josh Allen please...…
To even rate Josh Allen for last night is just foolish. 6 passes, yes one was complete stupidity, but as you said it almost always takes a few passes for Josh to find his groove, he was not afforded that chance last night. Unfortunately I think they took the whole let’s see the run game a little too far last night to help anybody....
4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:Def not going to knock your analysis of Josh Allen.....I would just say that I wouldnt have put on the list of good or bad this week at all.....because there was a little bit of both
We were running the ball....a lot...during his time in the game
I felt a better receiver catches the ball that Zay Jones had knocked away by Slay....a better receiver fights for that ball
Had a bad pass to cole...then he throws a perfect pass to cole that he fumbles
In the drive before halftime he had some very good play
Up and down
That was actually a great throw misplayed by Zay...
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1 minute ago, Freddie's Dead said:
It was late, allowing DB time to close.
No it wasn’t...
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2 minutes ago, Chill said:
These are all correct. Thanks for the observation. Nice post.
Dumb Azz the pass to Zay was perfect and where he should have caught it if he bothered to look back on third down past the sticks.
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On 8/18/2019 at 7:53 PM, Buffalo716 said:
There are kids playing HS football rn who got through concussion protocol in 1 week
I've seen it
Doesn’t mean they weren’t pushing it because they wanted them on the field.
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1 minute ago, Sunshower said:
Perhaps so. Or perhaps we’re just taking it slow, precautionary measures if you will. Doubt Morse hangs em up. Too much money on the line.
1 minute ago, Sunshower said:Perhaps so. Or perhaps we’re just taking it slow, precautionary measures if you will. Doubt Morse hangs em up. Too much money on the line.
Real concussion protocol is much more stringent than the BS the nfl does. Both my daughters got one playing soccer and the shortest it lasted was 4-5 weeks. If you are truly trying to be 100% symptom free, this is what it takes...
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17 minutes ago, Stallions said:
THANK YOU for an honest reply! It's refreshing on this board!
Not honesty, just an unsupported personal opinion, it’s refreshing to you because of the thousands here, one person supports your warped view.
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6 hours ago, VW82 said:
Except we've had the privilege of watching the games and so we know it isn't always Zay's fault. Allen is missing him a lot or forcing him to lay out for difficult catches that should have been routine. I agree Zay has a real problem holding onto the football and that issue doesn't appear to be QB dependent. Allen is exacerbating the issue with all the errant throws and Zay is in turn further killing the confidence between them with all the drops. At this point that has to be a factor: deep down they don't have confidence a throw will end in a reception.
No, no he’s not. A miss here or there but it’s mostly Zays inabilities at catching a catchable ball.
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6 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:
If you have to ask "could he have caught the ball?" It no longer qualifies as a drop. If the WR has to make a miraculous play to get it, the ball doesn't fall under the heading of "catchable"
Certainly, which was it?
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53 minutes ago, Cripple Creek said:
Then, aside from the release, which you haven’t shown to be “a thing” then you don’t actually agree with the OP about much.
If Allen’s release was a problem we’d be hearing about it from someone besides folks on the internet. Any elongated release he may have is more than made up for with his arm.
The Hilarious part is last year when he was tested before the season he was found to have one of the quickest releases by far of all the incoming Qb’s this is trolling at its worst. If someone wants to troll they should do their homework...
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1 minute ago, Johnny Hammersticks said:
What about all the other good plays? Did those leave an impression?
LOL ?
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3 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said:
No, you are not alone. The radio announcers said the same thing. Two things about that play: (1) Allen definitely made a poor throw, and (2) Zay ran his route 5-6 yards past the first down marker before making his curl. Perhaps that was by design or perhaps he ran a bad route. However, Zay had made his curl before Allen uncorked the ball, so Allen could have made a better throw. That said, if Zay doesn't extend his route so deep, he would have been in much better position to catch the ball. Bottom line though, Allen just missed the throw and he knows it.
That’s not the question, the question is, could the ball been caught?
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3 hours ago, oldmanfan said:
I rewatched and it seemed to me the throw to Brown down the left sideline he was trying to go back shoulder and they weren’t on the same page. That should improve with time.
It’s probably the only place that throw could have been successful, Brown didn’t get by the dB, further up its broken up or intercepted...
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8 hours ago, CuddyDark said:
That 2 yard line pass to Zay was behind him. If it's out in front it's a touchdown.
If it’s in front he gets clobbered twice as bad as he did, it was anything but behind , it was perfect for where the defense was...
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8 hours ago, AllenLongBall said:
He underthrew brown, and overthrew the TE. The Zay pass into the dirt and Zay drop are a wash.
You were harping in that last night, overthrowing a player that was held and we get s first down because of it is not the Qb’s fault no matter how many times you say it.$
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2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:
You mean until folks like you slowly start to realize the truth.
I guess we have to also get used to the clueless fans being clueless.
Hey hater number 2?
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3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:
I see so the ‘perfect’ catching position is turned around backward in a seated position on a post route. I see your point.
I dont hate allen or Zay. It was catchable. It was not perfect.
Another off inaccurate exaggeration, we have a hater here?
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2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
For reference-
Throw is pretty damn good isn’t it?
Bills 2019 - Is the plan to win every game 13-10 again?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Where the heck are the overzealous mods when you need them?