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I'm glad she's alive too, but it would appear you're pedaling this as empirical evidence that the drug is what saved her. I'm not here to discuss if we should be optimist or pessimist. I'm here to discuss fact/fiction.

As we’ve observed, the new narrative in the mainstream media and among Democrats is to argue that hydroxychloroquine is an untested drug It is untested for use with this virus, and that's an absolute fact, unless you consider one doctor giving it to 30 people 'testing'. If this 'journalist' sent this article back to his college professor, I'd hope he'd expect an F. Maybe next time instead of calling out others for what they're saying, he'll just skip right to the part where he proves that their arguments are not factual.

There is no evidence it works, so why on God's green Earth would any doctor recommend it???? Doctors do not operate on "what do you have to lose, here take this" methodology. They have to actually explain to you the possible benefit and harm of taking a medicine. It's called informed consent, and it's the law.

I would hope that's the next step if needed. Jake Tapper begged him to give us these answers. I don't think anyone is wanting anymore than some basic answers for our path forward.

I agree with this to a point. If I think I'm on my last gasp(and many people will), I'd say fire away. That's your right, imo. I was going to go all out an try to explain, but truth is the doctors don't understand it yet. If they don't understand it, they cannot make a treatment plan. There is no precedence in medical history where a rumor started a treatment plan, besides rub some dirt on it.

Doc, I pray you're right, but I hope you understand my point as well. I'm sorry if I may have gotten a bit excited, but his press conferences stress me out. As much as I don't want to watch, I have to know what's going on.

Hey a couple people drank Drano and they didn't die, so hey try Drano why not.

...and now like Mr President you are also wrong: https://time.com/5808894/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus/ The excitement over the combination’s potential began with a small French study of people with the novel coronavirus. In those patients, the load of SARS-CoV-2, the virus responsible for COVID-19, in their blood dropped after they received the medications, although their clinical symptoms didn’t change much. In another study of about 100 patients in China, doctors also reported some success in using the drug duo to reduce the viral load in patients. -Oh NOW we trust China Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and member of the White House Coronavirus Task Force, said the data so far “was not done in a controlled clinical trial. So you really can’t make any definitive statement about it.” “In general if hydroxychloroquine really, really worked, and it was a magic drug for COVID-19, we would know it by now,” says Dr. David Sullivan, professor of microbiology at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health and an infectious disease physician at the university’s malaria research institute. “Right now we have no clinical evidence that it works.”

My neighbors actually set up the whole camping rig in the yard the other night. Definitely a great way to get away from all this. I'm pretty stressed out from it all, as I'm sure everyone is. Have fun M8

That's exactly what happened tonight. He was cutting off all the questions until he finally got mad and stormed off. He wanted his opinion to be right so badly that he wouldn't let them ask the doctors about it

Is that how radical Trump supporters get smarter by ignoring people with an alternate position? If the guy had of done a good job there, I'd have said so, but it was horrendous. I've always said that if he was just a little different he could have been a remarkable president, but he just can't help himself. Did you hear the words it can't hurt you????????? If you have or are in a condition that otherwise seems irreversible I'm totally fine with an experimental drug. This drug has had NO effect on symptoms. It simply cuts the virus load. I'm skeptical, but damn right I'd take it if I thought I was clocking out for good. The problem is he was saying that there's NO chance it could harm you. HE WAS WRONG. There's not even any logic in him saying that, because no one has any idea if it actually saved anyone, or if it actually made their condition worse or even was the cause of their death. THERE'S NO EVIDENCE!

This is why you don't do what he did: But in those few days, a few people who began self medicating with the drugs in an effort to prevent COVID-19 have died, and others have been hospitalized. These tragedies have raised questions about the safety of the drug combo, and how valid they are as a possible solution to treating COVID-19. https://time.com/5808894/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus/

Look, he said that you have nothing to lose by taking it: ABSOLUTELY FALSE He said it can't harm you: FALSE When they tried to ask the doctor about legal ramifications, he cut them off. He was ABSOLUTELY giving bad advice, and it's indisputable. Am I saying it's a bad idea? No Am I saying it's a decision between you and your doctor: yes

It's actually 2 drugs, and here's what your favorite mayor says about the hydroxy https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/giuliani-says-doctors-not-national-bureaucracy-should-decide-whether-to-use-hydroxychloroquine-for-coronavirus/ar-BB12cmz0 Thank you, you too

I have every right to be upset about that press conference. He was wrong, and he was unpresidential

Much is still not known about Iran-Contra because of document shredding, deceit, and cover-ups by Reagan-era officials. Congress handcuffed its inquiry by failing to subpoena Oval Office recordings and calling knowledgeable witnesses. Robert Parry, an Associated Press reporter who uncovered the arms-for-drugs trade years before Webb, criticized the media for failing to dig into the story and succumbing to White House pressure and perception management. On Christmas Eve 1992, then-President Bush decapitated the investigation by Walsh. Bush pardoned six figures, including Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger, whose trial was about to begin, with Bush likely called to testify. Walsh was livid. Saying “the Iran-Contra cover-up … has now been completed,” he called Bush a “president who has such a contempt for honesty [and] arrogant disregard for the rule of law.” Bush’s pardons are newly relevant because Bush consulted his attorney general at the time, William Barr, who reportedly did not oppose the pardons. https://theintercept.com/2018/12/07/george-h-w-bush-iran-contra/

Do you want me to get the side effects out of my drug reference or do you just want to google what actual people say about them??

Iran contra? Basically selling illegal arms to an enemy to overthrow a different foreign government, but pardoning everyone and sweeping it under the carpet. Oh ya the whole thing was orchestrated by a Colonel. There's no way anyone ever ran any of this by the president. Why would you do that?? Ever watch the fall guy back in the 80's. It's kinda like that

Doctor Trump. Like I said if you agree with him you're no more qualified than him. Every single thing he said from a medical standpoint was wrong, then tried to turn it into a used car sales pitch that the car was running fine yesterday

I suppose you're blaming the media for his lack of composure?

Leave the deflecting to the toddler. Anyways Doc, do you give generalized information to YOUR patients about drugs that AREN'T PROVEN BEFORE SEEING THEM??

Very Presidential press conference there huh?? Maybe just once let them ask the whole question before you cut them off, and start pouting. He really is that bad folks Yes YOUR PERSONAL DOCTOR. Not a fat guy on a stage saying it CAN'T HARM YOU

These doctors cannot legally say give random drugs to patients on ethical grounds alone. It's pure lunacy from a medical standpoint. I'm a licensed health care professional, and I guarantee I have far more education than you and the manager at the Holiday Inn express. Ethics 101: Do no harm. In case you notice Trump WON'T let them answer the question

I think he just literally ripped the do no harm page right out of the ethics textbook

Oh I had no idea that what works for one person works for all. I'm amazed that in school they never taught us that. Let me ask you this. If a doctor gives you some random drug, and you get sick, who is responsible??? Should we be giving them Ibuprofen???? Seems safe enough. I'd be willing to bet $50k you're not a medical professional Oh really, how much medical background do you or Trump have???