VABills
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Maybe re-signed Dareus?
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Gay was 50% against Carolina. He makes 550K through 2017.
I say cut Carpenter, keep 1 kicker if we're only going to make 50%.
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I'd tryout guys, but unless he misses kicks in real games, I wouldn't chuck him just yet.
He's already missed 3 in preseason (plus an extra point). These weren't long FG's either. Try someone else out or see if our kickoff specialist can be just as inconsistent. We still don't have a sure fire solution for QB, so our kicker has got to be money. If he's not we can save 2.5 million there.
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IF traded!!
So, the team could trade him with no cap savings, cut him with $2.5 million hitting this and next year’s salary cap (or they can choose to take a $5.25 million “dead money bomb” now), or they can keep him. Keeping him actually cares a significant amount of risk if he were to be the starter.
Seems the author disagrees with you.
Actually we're both right. If there is offset language in the contract, which most have then if a player with guaranteed money signs elsewhere his salary and cap hit would be reduced by the amount paid by the other team.
Cut Manuel- Cap savings: Between $500,000 and $1.2 million
- Dead money: $1.2 million in 2015, and at least $1.2 million in 2016)
From reports when he signed, it is assumed that Manuel's rookie contract contains offset language for his guaranteed money, hence the range of potential cap savings. Assuming Manuel is signed by another team, whatever salary that team pays him will be offset from the guaranteed money the Bills are scheduled to pay Manuel this year (just over $1.2 million). If Manuel is still in the league in 2016, the same result will follow again, with the Bills' guarantee to pay Manuel $1.6 million reduced by whatever salary he receives from another team. The remaining value of Manuel's prorated signing bonus would be split in equal $1.2 million dead money hits in 2015 and 2016.
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you are embarrassing the other Bills Fans in Virginia. Please stop
http://www.hashtagsports.net/articles/cutting-ej-manuel-can-the-bills-afford-to-keep-him
EJ is in the third year of a four year guaranteed contract which comes built with an option for a fifth year if the exercised by the team.
If he were to be cut, he could accelerate $2.8 million against the salary cap this season; the team could split that amount, pushing some of the pending cap hit to next year.
His salary this and next year comes fully guaranteed, which means the Bills need to account for that plus his prorated signing bonus regardless if he is on the team or not, all $5.25 million of it.
Trading EJ would require the Bills to only have to absorb the amount remaining on his signing bonus against the cap, which would account for about $2.4 million this year, nearly matching what his salary figure is now.
So, the team could trade him with no cap savings, cut him with $2.5 million hitting this and next year’s salary cap (or they can choose to take a $5.25 million “dead money bomb” now), or they can keep him. Keeping him actually cares a significant amount of risk if he were to be the starter.
Again, way to not understand. If he is signed by another team, the cap hit is reduced by any amount they sign him to. Otherwise players would try to get cut and double dip if they were on guaranteed contracts. It's part of the CBA. You're wrong also and you owe me an apology.
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How is Davis not in the top 7. He was a better backup running back than Jackson.
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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong (like you wouldn't do it anyway), but isn't the only important thing the cap money? EJ's money is guaranteed so cutting him saves no cap money, where as cutting Cassel before the start of the season saves like $4mm. Have at me.
You're wrong. If someone picks him up, there are certain minimums at least they have to pay. Anything Ej is paid by another team, if he is cut, is reduced from the Bills cap and out lay. So if EJ is cut and someone pays him 2M a year then the Bills are off the hook for that 2m.
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One dollar, Bob.
2 buck chuck
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$0 M
0 years
$0 guarentee
Ralph is cheap.
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They trusted him to hold onto the ball, huh...
They didn't win, so bad mistake on their part.
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So you do think EJ will play in a Super Bowl.
When did Joe play in a Super Bowl?
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You are right. Without a running QB who has never started an NFL game in his professional career, throwing the ball 30 yards downfield play after play, there is no chance the Bills ever score any points this season.
Don't get me wrong, I hope Taylor succeeds, but just because he will be "exciting" to watch, doesn't mean that the Bills will win because of his play.
And Ej just reminds me of Joe Pisarcik.
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What?
If Cassel is starting it's going to be a lot of very boring, low scoring games. Got that now?
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That is from Monday. I know you wish that was the latest but the noises appear to be very much in the other direction. Cassel seems to be the one on the brink. I do think a good trade offer would see them trade EJ and keep Cassel, but I only see Cassel as a potential cut.
If Cassel has truly ended up 3rd in a 2 man competition that is slightly ironic as there were still people on here a week ago telling us he was definitely going to start.
That last statement scares me, as I knew that we were in for a lot of 9-6 games if he started (assuming Carpenter can learn to kick FG's).
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gaining steam
Everybody sing along!!
Trolling, trolling, trolling down the river!
http://nfltraderumors.co/bills-reportedly-discussing-releasing-qb-matt-cassel/
Carucci adds that with a cap figure of around $5 million, Cassel is just too expensive as a backup quarterback. On top of that, the Bills can use all the space they can get in order to lock up DT Marcell Dareus to a contract extension
You're the troll. You've bashed everyone but EJ and get upset that EJ didn't get the starting nod.
Me not a fan of Cassel or EJ, actually thought the best QB won the job. As far as backups go, neither Cassel nor EJ is a good fit and would force changes to the offense. More protection for EJ and shorter/quicker routes for Cassel. Either way it would allow teams to stack the box more. I am a fan of getting rid of both of them as they both have too much down side and getting someone else as backup. They are both too expensive as backup options.
It's also possible the Bills are saying this to drive up the trade requests on EJ or Cassel.
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Ha! That's exactly what I was thinking...
Actually the column has Ian Rapoport info, which some here linked to but only posted the part about Cassel getting cut.
"Following the news that Taylor would be the starting quarterback, NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reported that either EJ Manuel or Matt Cassel would be released following the decision. Manuel has some momentum after throwing for 170 yards and two touchdowns against the Pittsburgh Steelers, but Rapoport believes the Bill might be ready to move on from the former first-round pick instead."
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No, that's not at all what the column says -- and down what rabbit hole did you go to find this?
How is this any different then the link that started this page. Oh wait, I know. The one I linked to has advertisers and isn't some 16 year old tweeting,
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With that logic, wouldnt it make more sense to:
keep EJ for this year and cut Cassel (cap savings of 4.15m for 2015).
then draft said rookie in 2016 and cut EJ. So only his 1.X million cap hit from that year hits us. So we have the savings from his contract plus the 4 mil freed from Cassel. (~ 5+ Mil Cap savings)
I don't know. My point was though that the cost difference is minimal and 1.35 million will not save Dareus. It also is meant to imply that either could be on the cut/trade block and the Bills have options. Personally, I am not sold on either of the guys and wouldn't be shocked to see both gone and another QB brought in to back up Taylor. Someone who has similar style/ability.
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Not to rain on your parade. Your numbers may be right for savings, but your logic is flawed.
Yes, Cutting EJ will save 2.8 million over 2 years.
Cutting Cassel will save 4.15 million for 2015 and additionally 4.15 will be available for 2016 as it is not tied to anything
So:
If you cut EJ and keep Cassel this year and next year at ~3 Mil; its a savings of 3.95 Million over 2 years.
If you cut EJ, and keep Cassel just for this year, its a savings of 6.95 Million over 2 years (Minus whatever you have to pay a backup QB...~1-3 MIL)
So say savings of 4.95 Mil (assuming 2 Mil for the year for backup QB)
If you cut Cassel, but keep EJ, its a savings of 8.3 Million over 2 years
Cutting Cassel is a 3+ Million better option from my point of view.
That's fair. But you have to look at 2016 differently. If Simms progresses and TT does well. then maybe that's the 2016 option with a drafted rookie to PS. Same costs, and now you also freed up the 2016 money to re-sign TT.
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Really?
Actually yes, those are his numbers.
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May we please not insult everyone's intelligence by suggesting the 33-year old Matt Cassel has anything close to the speed or agility of either TT or EJ? Did you see his "scramble" on Saturday? He did the unthinkable -- he made Fred Jackson look fast.
And looking at EJ's numbers or TT's from 4 years ago isn't fair either. EJ said he gained 8-10 pounds in off season. You think he is even close to his numbers from the combine?
Cassel also doesn't get sacked as much, which means he probably is more agile and with awareness less likely to get hurt and avoid the negative yards.
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So EJ if he pans out, where ever that may be, could acutally be on a team for 3 more years?
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Tyrod : 40 yard dash = 4.51 s , Vertical Jump = 37.5 in, Broad Jump = 126 in, 3 cone drill = 6.78 s, 20 yard shuttle = 4.09s
EJ : 40 yard dash = 4.65 s , Vertical Jump = 34.0 in, Broad Jump = 118 in, 3 cone drill = 7.98 s, 20 yard shuttle = 4.21s
Those are some big differences in speed and agility between the two.
Cassel 40 yard = 4.78 vertical - 34 Broad = 115" 3 cone = 7.2 20 yard = 4.06
On the face of it, looks like Cassel is better from an agility standpoint than EJ and in fact on 20 faster than TT.
Rex to address media at 1:45
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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Maybe Doug was fired and Rex taking over both things. Which is why Bills will be his last gig.