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14 hours ago, JDHillFan said:
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Early June is probably the right time for the endorsement. If too early, no one is paying attention. If too late, there’s not enough time to fully take advantage of the publicity boost AOC’s name recognition provides. Now we just need an endorsement from Bernie…
9 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:Many Muslims are good people but many of them have chosen not to assimilate to be an American in any way and that should not be praised or rewarded. It is not offensive that JFK had to state outright that his allegiance was to the country over the Pope because of his Catholicism and Zohran should be plain on what parts of Sharia law he agrees with. If he wants no Sharia law in the US I will listen to him but we have to end this belief that other cultures are equal to the US.
Trust me when I say that no one who knows Zohran personally is afraid he would impose Sharia law on NYC! Far-left politicians, nationwide, have virtually an impeccable record respecting the Establishment Clause. NYC is also the most culturally diverse city in the world and likely in human history. It’s a source of pride here. Being Muslim isn’t going to hurt Zohran like some outsider pundits stuck in the 9/11/01 worldview want to think.
I’m actually begging Andrew Cuomo to dig deep into that Islamophobia campaign playbook because I think it will backfire spectacularly on him and because Zohran needs every potential advantage he can find in such a close race. Cuomo has already begun that descent with his recent “anti-Zionism = anti-Semitism” rhetoric, but we have less than three full weeks of campaign runway remaining. An Emerson College poll from last week showed Cuomo defeating Zohran 54.4% to 45.6% in the tenth round of ranked-choice voting. This essentially means Zohran has three weekends to convince 1 out of every 20 primary voters to switch their ballot order between him and Andrew.
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On 5/29/2025 at 12:00 PM, Big Blitz said:
Oh no! A Muslim!! Eeeek!!! LOL…wear your bigotry proudly, guys…
So AOC has now officially endorsed Zohran Mamdani!! You DON’T mess with The Zohran. The NYC Dem Party primary is Tuesday, June 24. Vote Zohran Mamdani as your top choice and fill in your next four choices with names, but make sure to leave Andrew Cuomo completely off your top-5 list. Also: if you live in the greater NYC area, Zohran still needs lots of volunteer help in The Bronx.
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22 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:
I didn't bother to read it. You are trying to justify attacking elderly people in another continent with a flamethrower, that is sick and evil. I do not need to debate with or acknowledge extremists. Palestine wrote a check that their body couldn't cash in 2023 and got exactly what they deserved. Palestine is dead wrong, and the world will be better when they cease to exist as a nation. full stop. Maybe after that, the innocent civilians there can live a stable life where they do not have to worry about their own government holding them hostage as expendable leverage at strategic battle sites every time someone fights back after the terrorist attacks that Palestine always starts. The rest of us are sick of the crap. I will never compromise with terrorism. Block me if you don't like that. Have the day that you deserve.
TRANSLATION: “It quickly became apparent to me that I had no chance of winning this debate, so I’ll just pretend that Kay condones acts of terrorism and then proceed to quit with feigned righteous indignation. Hopefully she will leave me alone now, and hopefully this response will allow me to save face with my two dozen reactionary Boomer/middle-aged friends who were evidently equally afraid to engage with Kay…since none of them bothered to come to my rescue during our debate…”
For the record: yes, I unequivocally condemn all acts of terrorism on innocent civilians and non-combatants. I do so on both moral and strategic grounds.
But I also vociferously condemn collective punishment, ethnic cleansing, genocide, apartheid ethnostates, and acts of terrorism on Palestinian Americans from mentally ill Zionists…all of which apparently the two dozen TBD PPP reactionary Boomers/middle-agers AND YOU do not.
On 6/3/2025 at 4:55 PM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:I have a friend/associate who was born and raised in Palestine. He most definitely is not a fan of Israel and believes the 10/7 attack was fabricated or reported as substantially worse than it was. He's a pretty passionate guy and I try and listen to what he says and why.
Stepping back from that for just a second, the bigger question is always this: Does Hamas present a threat to our values, or way of life, and the national security of the country. I believe it does, so it's hard for me to step back and completely reconcile how the Palestinian people don't share some of the blame here. As an American, there's all sorts of hate and animosity directed at certain political groups by certain other political groups (for instance anyone with TDS v anyone who is not afflicted), yet in that part of the world it's beyond the pale to raise that issue.
Before you launch into a nedboyish tirade about hate and loathing under the banner...I harbor no hate against anyone, and the amount of pain and suffering in the Middle East is off the charts historically. I understand that the Israeli's are not innocent in this interaction, but when push comes to shove, I think you partner with the partner less likely to want to see you destroyed.
You’re presenting a false binary choice. Why not forego an alliance with both Hamas AND Israel?
In what way does Hamas threaten our American way of life?? They are a political organization localized to the Gaza Strip. They’ve never physically harmed an American outside of Israel. You can read their 1988 and 2017 charters to get a sense of their specific grievances, but any issues they have with the U.S. are restricted to our support of a country that has infamously confined their citizens to an “open-air prison” for the past two decades.
In what way is Israel a good ally?? We send them ~$4 billion a year in aid, ~$20 billion since 10/7/23, and ~$300 billion total since Israel’s founding. That is not an “America first” policy! In return, our support of them has seriously strained our international and Middle East regional alliances, already sucked us into multiple disastrous Middle East conflicts, and at this point has destroyed whatever remaining moral legitimacy our country had in the post-WW2 era. All this for better economic access to the Suez Canal region, which the Houthis have now strained SPECIFICALLY because of our support for Israel’s genocide??
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18 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Indeed I did. Oddly, I didn’t find it unsettling. I am the middle child of a large family, just happy to have some eyes on me I suppose.
1. I overruled your declaration that “….the actual Nazi politicians never saw themselves as socialists…” It’s impossible to know what was in the hearts and minds of all politicians from the 1930s to mid 1945. Hence, I saw that as speculative and overruled the declaration. I have to stick with that here.
2. Oh, ok, I missed this long paragraph the first couple times around, and still can’t find it. It’s probably my screen glitching.
3. “I’d like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony.” Pepsi Commercial way back when4. “Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night devoid of stars.”. MLK
Fair enough in the cat references, all of it. Creative, though I’m a traditionalist and prefer Julie Newmar suited up. I think she, more than most, captured the ethos of the character, her nimble beauty a testam….ah who am I kidding. You put pretty much any of them in that cat suit and life is temporarily less dreary by half.
The mean meme…I wasn’t sure how to go with that, probably because that guy and I have virtually nothing in common. I get that wasn’t the point, but I couldn’t really work with it. Btw I have never heard of the “Son I am disappoint” meme until this very minute. That could be part of the issue.
Child Order Psychology: Middle children are known for being good conflict mediators. I guess I can sorta see that in you, based on your PPP posting history. You oftentimes seek the more centrist or ”reasonable” political position, willingly explore both sides, and avoid emotional extremes. I’m the youngest in my family with two older brothers close in age, so maybe that helps explain my high levels of combativeness on a pro football message board subforum? I hope Muppy chimes in to tell us hers, though I’m afraid to “at” her because I know she hates PPP.
Ugh. I’m already bored with this thread topic. Let’s just finish up with an old-fashioned “debate by combat,” Game of Thrones style!
1. Historians of the Nazi Party reached their consensus assessments from public quotes, private letters, interviews, newspaper depictions, and the Nuremberg Trials. << punches Leh-nerd in the nose >>
2. Computer glitch! << left hook to Leh-nerd’s face >>
3. Soda poetry! << right hook to Leh-nerd’s face >>
4. Poignant quote! << devastating uppercut to Leh-nerd’s jaw >>
Debate conclusion: TKO! Kay wins another political debate against Leh-nerd! Yay, Kay!!
Catwomen: Agreed! I’m familiar with all of the character’s actresses, and I think Julie Newmar wins on physical beauty and charisma. She was crazy tall, too. Catwoman should be tall and physically intimidating.
Meaner Memes: Hmmm…upon further review, that meme has been deemed “very meh.” As an homage to our pugilistic repartee, it shall be replaced with this more delightful internet meme:
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22 hours ago, Pokebball said:
Do you consider an illegal alien tossing Molotov cocktails and shooting folks with a flame thrower free speech? Why are you even mentioning free speech?
Read again my first paragraph and the post to which I was responding.
22 hours ago, dgrochester55 said:I do not care about your twisted propaganda version of history. For the love of God, stop deflecting and stop blaming Trump. Attacking elderly people in another continent with a flamethrower is not free speech and you are an unhinged psycho if you think otherwise. I used to think that Israel and Palestine could coexist and would have been more sympathetic before October of 2023, but the conduct over the last two years has changed that. Palestinians started a battle by killing people at a concert and spread chaos into the US and Europe by destroying everything around them and persecuting Jewish people.
The Palestinian people as a nation are carrying themselves as if they are barbaric squatters who know of no other way but violence and Chaos. The fact that not one person in Palestine publicly condemned that attack tells me their true colors. Keeping them as a nation is like letting a rattlesnake roam openly in your house. There will never be peace because their only goal is destruction and the elimination of Israel. Yes, there are no doubt good and peaceful individuals, but they should be able to escape that and go to a more civilized environment. In my opinion, Palestine has lost any right to exist as a nation and they get what they deserve.
1. My “twisted propaganda version” of history: Be specific. Tell me exactly what you think is my propaganda and what is truth. My version of history comes from the widely accepted “New Historians” of Israel (Benny Morris et al.).
2. My alleged TDS: I’ve been calling this conflict a genocide since November 2023 and have been extremely critical of Zombie Zionist Biden the entire time. I was highly critical of my own political people (Bernie + AOC) for not denouncing the genocide much earlier. I’ve been against apartheid Israel since first reading Chomsky in high school.
Can we talk about YOUR Trump apologisms?? Any profound thoughts on AIPAC money, Miriam Adelson’s special $100+ million bribe, and Trump’s real estate interests in an ethnically cleansed Gaza??
3. Palestinians “started a battle” on 10/7/23: Sure, but what U.S. diplomatic events precipitated that battle?? Name them. And how did the broader “war” influence this battle (Balfour Declaration, Nakba, Green Line disputes, Camp David, Oslo Accords, Rabin assassination, both Intifadas, etc.)?
4. Your “barbaric squatters” remark: Oh! A very interesting and revelatory choice of words, indeed! The international community, FYI, does officially recognize the state of Palestine. They consider Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, chunks of southwest Syria, and parts of southern Lebanon to all be land that Israel is illegally occupying.
5. “Not one person in Palestine” publicly condemning attack: Shocking that you’ve been unaware of the peaceful humanitarian leaders and organizations throughout Palestine and abroad! I can excuse most Gazans for not vocally expressing their outrage because they’ve been preoccupied with basic survival in a dystopian landscape for the past 20 months.
6. “No doubt good and peaceful individuals” within Gaza: Your magnanimity warms my heart! Half of all Gazans aren’t even adults, FYI.
7. “They should be able to escape that and go to a more civilized” place: Agreed! Oh, wait…that whole “total blockade” situation in Gaza since 2007…and that whole “ethnic cleansing is wrong” concept…
8. “Palestine has lost any right to exist as a nation and they get what they deserve.” A powerful final thought from you.
I’ll counter by arguing that the far superior country, militarily, has certain moral obligations. The U.N. and the ICJ have been compiling an outrageous litany of evidence for recent war crimes against Israel. The far-right Israeli government now openly expresses their plans for ethnic cleansing in both Gaza AND the West Bank. Academic experts on genocide are now unanimous in their agreement on calling this a genocide. These are all pretty glaring examples of Israel’s breach in their moral obligations.
Just the other day, Jeremy Scahill (investigative journalist for Drop Site News) revealed details on ceasefire negotiations showing that Israel doesn’t even want Hamas to leave their positions of governance! In other words, Israel WANTS the genocide and ethnic cleansing to continue. The presence of Hamas is Israel’s one remaining justification for their contemptible behavior. So it was never about saving the hostages (no complete resolution after 20 months??) or about destroying Hamas. It was always about stealing more land and taking more natural resources…the settler colonial Zionist raison d’etre since the New Yishuv, wrapped up in a pretty Biblical bow.
My solution: systematically dismantle the Jewish ethnostate of Israel. No two states. One state of Palestine, with equal rights for all. Have explicit constitutional protections for minority religious/ethnic groups like Jews. Employ heavy international/U.S. guidance early on to build up a peacefully functioning Palestine-Israel state.
20 hours ago, 4th&long said:Understanding? Theses people? Hahahahahahahahahahahaha. That's a good one.
Oh I hear ya, but I also look at this as a moral imperative to provide at least some type of response.
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20 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Ah, I forgot I labelled you a 'fraidy cat. At least we agree on your Stewie moniker. We can roll with that.
It was not my intent to overrule you, again, not even certain how one obviously cute (I didn't want to say it, but it's true and thank you ☺️) old timer could overrule anyone. I actually thought I handled that respectfully, I didn't knock your post, and included a tag so it would not appear I was talking behind your back. I think you're being overly sensitive.
To boot, you initially suggested I was overruling historians, then prest-o change-o you changed it to me overruling you. Trés confusing.
✊ Before, you didn't seem inclined to acknowledge this. Why hold the line on that particular issue in an attempt to win a point only to abandon it one post later?
I guess it's like that old lady said in "Titanic", a woman's heart is indeed a deep ocean.
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Argue as you see fit, reasonable people can disagree reasonably. To me, that sort of interaction sounds an awful lot like arguing over who is tougher, Spider or Batman. Besides, Stevie Wonder could see where I was going with that. I'm a simple man, really, and don't really see much value there.
OMG you lied about the 18 hour cat nap? Did you even lick the back of your pawhands, or is everything about our relationship a lie? My only failure was in trusting, apparently.
#mean
You forgot that you had called me a cat?? That must have made reading my previous post a bit unsettling!
1. Why did you use the “overruled” word if you weren’t overruling me and didn’t think you can overrule anyone, including historians? So mysterious…
2. I’ve been consistent this whole time. Top-down government management and bottom-up worker co-op management are two organizational versions of the same system in which “workers own the means of production.” If you nationalize an industry (health care, energy, etc.), the employees in that industry are also taxpaying/voting citizens and therefore part of the ownership group. There are no uber-wealthy CEO’s and workers below the poverty line in a nationalized industry model. There WERE such things, however, throughout the entire Nazi Germany economy.
3. << hugs Leh-nerd >>
4. Hmmm…meh. << punches Leh-nerd >>
Leh-nerd’s Catcalling Problems: Yes, I sometimes speak metaphorically. No, I am not an actual cat typing this out with a pair of heavy-handed paws. That would be patently absurd, Leh-nerd. Please try to keep up with me. It’s as if I’m traversing a 5-D hyperspace chessboard of communication with ease, while your 16 pieces are stuck on a congested 1-D line…
Also, you should have gone with Catwoman instead of Garfield. Consider their main adversaries, too, and how they match our own adversarial relationship. Catwoman is super bad*ss and loves violently assaulting Batman. Nermal is far too cute. If they were to make a TBD PPP superhero movie for some reason, then obviously 1990’s Renee Zellweger (before Bridget Jones) would play my Catwoman and 1980’s Sloth Fratelli (during Goonies) would play your Batman.
Kay’s Mean Meme: I viewed it as a fairly creative variation of the “Son I am Disappoint” meme. Not even a thumbs-up +1 rep boost?? Humph. << punches Leh-nerd >>
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On 6/1/2025 at 10:36 PM, dgrochester55 said:
Same week that two Israel embassy members were gunned down by someone saying Free Palestine. Does anyone still think that the Palestine protestors have peaceful intentions?
There are some things that I like about Trump and others that I don't care for, but I will be glad to have a president who will crack down on them instead of pretending that it didn't happen or minimizing it.
Yes, I very much think the Palestine protestors have peaceful intentions!! Isolated incidents of violence from mentally disturbed people don’t define or negate an entire political/humanitarian movement. Would you like me to carefully review all the violent hate crimes, in the U.S. alone since 10/7/23, by self-avowed Zionists against Palestinian Americans?? Where were all you PPP sh!theads when, say, Joseph Czuba murdered Wadee Alfayoumi??!!
I’m kind of relieved, though, to see Israel apologists FINALLY admitting that they want Trump to crack down on free speech. This is the natural impulse for those who can’t defend the indefensible: a certifiable GENOCIDE funded by the American taxpayer.
But those who would like to try anyway with me should first understand that this conflict spatially extends beyond the Gaza Strip and temporally before 10/7/23. So before attempting to tango with La Commie Kay, you must first have a decent understanding of the West Bank settler encroachments and the New Yishuv of the pre-Nakba era. And so I’ll now patiently await among the verdant subforum foliage, like a political praying mantis, ready to rip some f*cking Zionist heads off after our disputatious embrace.
Peace,
-Kay
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6 hours ago, Taro T said:
It is also a definitional component of far-left communism.
Authoritarianism in any form gets those that don't go along with the program imprisoned if they're lucky. Mostly, those that don't go along simply end up in unmarked graves.
It’s technically not a definitional component of communism, either. Authoritarianism has historically accompanied communism** because of the difficulty in scaling communism up to fit a society any larger and more diverse than what you’d likely find on a hippie commune. Any system of governance that poorly models collective human behavior will devolve into extreme violence. Anarcho-capitalism is on the opposite side of that same communist coin.
** - While we’re being super technical here…I should note that the historical/practical instances of communism failed in coming close to matching the academic/theoretical definition of communism.
4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:I see the feline play here, I don't see the connection---I see you less a 'stalk your prey' poster, more of a Stewie from Family Guy player. As for your posting stamina--I appreciate all that, but to quote an old friend during a very difficult stretch at a stressful job..."Hey, we can stand on our head for a year if need be.". The more likely outcome is I lose interest in the subject matter, though certainly remain appreciative for the hard, dirty work you put in.
How I would overrule historians? What does this mean? Swing and a miss, Miss.
There are many versions of socialism, yes. Thank you, we could stop here and agree. Again, I acknowledged that I thought you were approaching this from a textbook perspective (no criticism intended), in my original post--my quick review of the subject matter suggests that 'worker owning' is often substituted with 'government representing the collective'.
Yes, branding, we agree. Thank you.
Point 2 has been addressed. That there was overlap with fascist tendencies is obvious. I feel like there is spillover when discussing any of these situations.
As for 'some of his supporters', sure. Some rejected his approach. Some were full-throated supporters of his theory of social welfare and strong government , abhorrent though it was. Some went along for the ride.
There is a Garfield joke in here somewhere, but I'm too much of a gentleperson to flush it out.
Don’t get cute with me, Leh-nerd. You’re the one who called me a cat. Now you think of me more as someone who is youthful, adorable, persistent, brilliant, self-confident, and always able to declare victory. Hmmm…yes, let’s roll with Stewie!
1. You’re getting cute with me, Leh-nerd. YOU “overruled” ME. I was simply regurgitating the consensus thoughts of credible academic HISTORIANS. Therefore, YOU are overruling (i.e. disagreeing with) the HISTORIANS. Transitive property, bruh.
2. True. Direct government management has historically been far more common than worker cooperatives.
3. You’re very welcome!
4. I see where you’re going with this, but I will easily argue that modern American conservatives have far more overlap with historical fascists than do my democratic socialist comrades.
Regarding your aborted Garfield remark: Let’s go ahead and “flesh it out” before we “flush it out.” Garfield is known for being lazy, fat, and a lover of lasagna. I am a workaholic, have a 19.3 BMI, and have been a 100% vegan for many years now. Diagnosis: FAIL.
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19 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
To the bolded font, in order:
1. Calls for speculation some 90 years hence. Overruled.
2. You seem to be implying there is only one true version of socialism. I reject that.
3. Socialist branding. Exactly, thank you.
4. Because the enough of the citizenry accepted the approach to socialism as offered by Hitler and crew.
I see no need for caution here, Kay, stop being such a fraidy cat.
Oh rest assured, 100% of the fear distribution is with the mousy prey. You have entered a lion’s den that is the history of political philosophy. This is well within my PURRRview. I FEEL I KNow a very significant amount on this topic. And my legendary posting stamina can render you CATatonic. I don’t KNEAD to massage your ego, either, as your predictable fate was of your own volition. So now hear ME OUt:
1. This is the consensus opinion of credible academic historians, based on all sorts of well-researched evidence. You’re overruling them??
2. There are many versions of socialism, but all with one common denominator: workers owning the means of production. I reject your rejection.
3. Yes, branding, which is quite distinct from ACTUALLY BEING.
4. No, that was a reference to the fact that the Nazis quickly moved to crush all political opposition soon after taking control. Hitler offered no approach to socialism (see: point #2). He governed in accordance with fascism. I’m sure some of his early supporters who wanted socialism also liked his ultranationalism, calls for a strong centralized government, and hatred of Jews. None of that, however, are necessary features of socialism. Again…I know plenty of actual card-carrying DSA members. They all seem to be anti-nationalists, federalists, and humanists of some type.
<< Narrator: Kay carefully licks the backs of her hands, saunters over to a corner of her bedroom, curls up in a curious ball, and proceeds to sleep for the next eighteen hours. >>
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3 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
by your pure "definition" then socialism has never occurred in any version of a country because the people don't own the factories in any country, it is either private or government. As for putting political opponents in jail, that is from the entire range of political spectrum, your name is Comrade and any argument that the Communists in Asia did not imprison and kill their political enemies is absurd and shows how politically blinded you are.
Government ownership of a factory IS one form of “workers owning the means of production.” In this instance, the collective taxpayers/voters are the owners and the government handles the administrative affairs of the factory.
I think you misinterpreted what I wrote: I NEVER denied the historical reality that far-left governments have imprisoned their political opponents. I merely stated that it wasn’t a defining feature of socialism, whereas it IS for fascism. By “defining feature,” I mean “a description that an academic political philosopher would use to help characterize the term.” I personally know lots of card-carrying DSA members, and none of them believe in throwing their political opponents in jail.
2 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:I feel like @ComradeKayAdams is interested in textbook definitions of various political ideologies. There is some merit to that, but people and systems simply do not fall into strict categories that fit into near boxes. With respect to socialism and workers controlling production, I agree with you—the reality is it’s rarely about the individual, the collective runs the show, it’s just a different form of collective than a corporation.
In the case of the German Socialist party, I’d think it’s a matter of semantics—they saw themselves as socialists, identified as socialists and morphed into the socialist monstrosity they ultimately became. I can see why Kay would prefer to distance herself from that brand of socialism, but when you get right down to it…they saw it differently.
I mean, sure…EXCEPT FOR THE HISTORICAL FACT that the actual Nazi politicians never saw themselves as socialists, never governed with the implementation of proper socialist policies, and actively fought against real German socialists. By the time the German citizens who supported the Nazis specifically for their socialist branding figured out what was going on, it was too late to dissent.
Claiming the Nazis were “socialists” because it was in their party name is simply devoid of any critical historical analysis. It would be like evaluating contemporary American politics by simply stating Democrats must therefore be inherently more “democratic” than Republicans, or that Republicans must therefore be better promulgators of representative democracy than Democrats. These are all just names branded for whatever political expediency at the point of initial historical application.
The era of Pax Kay-Leh-na, as established in the Papal Conclave thread, is now under great duress. Proceed with caution, Leh-nerd…
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23 hours ago, Orlando Buffalo said:
Hitler was very much a socialist, he took control of car making and other industries, and made many other industries either support him or put them out of business. Britannica seems to think banning unions was not socialist, he simply gave everyone the same rights across the board, they also argue that socialist don't imprison their political opponents, which is stupid on its surface and hilarious if you look at any version of history. Hitler was a violent socialist, which is not the norm, but he was every but a socialist
You’re conflating “socialism” with “dirigisme.” The simple question regarding socialism is whether or not “the workers own the means of production.” You appear to be acknowledging that wealthy capitalists dominated the economic landscape of Nazi Germany, and that any collective bargaining was severely restricted under Nazi rule. So there’s your answer…
Imprisoning one’s political opponents isn’t any defining feature of socialism. All types of governments throughout history have done this or not done this. It IS, however, a definitional component of far-right fascism.
Reddogblitz is 100% correct. The “socialist” in “National Socialist German Workers’ Party” was rhetorical propaganda meant to appeal to the German proletariat in the earliest years of Nazism. Hitler and the Nazis then waged an all-out war with any and all left-leaning German political opponents.
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On 5/31/2025 at 9:44 AM, muppy said:
drop the MIC Holy crap girlie DANG wow awesome Great FABULOUS I ❤️ you xo m
that was a power post. which is exactly like you. I have many friends who rae 10X smarter than me. I don't hate it I accept it. I'm just glad we are friends dang woman.
To me you sound like a NYC dweller who lives life to the fullest and knows a chit ton about EVERYTHING. and no baloney
I admit to the fact that I DO know how much I don't actually know. Hence the journey which happens when REAL discussions happen.
off my soapbox, less is very often more
unless you're kay. my GF is a WRITER . and she does Not Hold BACK
BLABBY!! and so smart
lmaooo xooxox m
Muppy (and Two Bills Drive): “Less is very often more.”
Kay: “MORE is more!!!”
William Shakespeare: “Brevity is the soul of wit, Commie Kay.”
Kay: “Thou shalt shut thy filthy wh*re mouth, Zombie Bill.”
No, but I hear y’all…I think the natural constraints of poetry are probably healthier for me. Prose is where I tend to let my spiked mohawk hair down and really lose control. Speaking of words…
The Female Rocker Evaluation Committee should consider another dimension to our analyses: lyrics! My clear-cut favorite female rock lyricist has to be Regine Chassagne from Arcade Fire. She is a bona fide poet and is preternaturally soulful within a “sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll” industry that typically treats the lyrics like an afterthought. If written properly, the lyrics are supposed to accentuate both the vocals and the instruments while driving you to very emotive places. “Haiti” and “Sprawl 2 (Mountains Beyond Mountains)” are a couple of my favorites, off the top of my head, among many others of Regine’s that do just that. Oh, and “In the Backseat” about her mother’s death…ugh…simple but powerful…she’s sooo good…
P.S. I do ADORE your compliments, of course, but your cognitive insecurities shock and sadden me. Know that the concept of “intelligence” is highly nuanced and fluid. Comparisons of it are ultimately kind of pointless, anyway. Your apparent curiosity, humility, open-mindedness, and efforts to surround yourself with people whose knowledge and talents kindle you is what matters in this life.
P.S.P.S. I unfortunately haven’t been able to spend much time lately enjoying NYC. Lots of work-related travel, plus the occasional out-of-town weekend hike or rock-climbing adventure. This month, however, I’ll be spending my weekends volunteering for Zohran Mamdani’s NYC mayoral campaign! Woohoo!! You DON’T mess with The Zohran!
(P.S.)^3. Ugh…LOL…I just can’t help myself…as you know, I enjoy political subversion in the form of murderous literary imagery (or at least you do now, and to which PPP’s Leh-nerd can testify). So here’s a lyrical poem to commemorate my upcoming political canvassing efforts, with the rhythm set to “Abraham’s Daughter” by Arcade Fire (I’m sure the meter is out of whack, but whatevs…this is early morning online pro football message board subforum poetry, not The New Yorker):
Andrew took Zohran’s hand
And led him to Todt Hill,
While Zohran’s canvasser hid and watched.
She dared not breathe. She was so still.
Just as an oligarch donor cheered for the slaughter,
Zohran’s canvasser raised her voice.
Then the oligarch asked Kay what her name was.
Kay said, “I have none.”
Then the oligarch asked, “How can this be?!”
“ERIC ADAMS NEVER GAVE ME ONE.”
And with Andrew’s wallet up, raised for the slaughter,
Zohran’s canvasser raised her bow.
“How darest you, voter, defy your next mayor!”
“You better let young Zohran go.”
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15 hours ago, muppy said:
girlie if u want to know my taste in music scroll any music thread in OTW
I can see you with a spiked mohawk in my dreams
lol
and I THINK those are all 3 new names. You rock and are a wordsmith chica. can one person have too many gifts?
*mu'ja* good to read you here. PPP gave me hives
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LOL…”spiked mohawk”…I love it, Muppy!! Methinks my political subforum irreverence, however, belies my true self. Punk and/or goth doesn’t quite fit my personality. The uniquely Commie Kay fashion aesthetic can best be described as such: “cosmopolitan hippy: an ethereal, iridescent fusion of stoic Manhattan professionalism met with impish Brooklyn bohemianism.” Or something.
So I just finished perusing this thread. I’d like to add Meg White (White Stripes), Karen Orzolek (Yeah Yeah Yeahs), Regine Chassagne (Arcade Fire), and Hope Sandoval (Mazzy Star) to the discussion. I also want to re-emphasize the awesomeness of Grace Slick, Kim Gordon, P.J. Harvey, and Dolores O’Riordan.
And my official answer for my favorite rocker chick is Melissa Auf der Maur. Her pairing with Courtney Love for Hole** was absolutely SUBLIME. I once told my Dad (a huge Nirvana fan) that I think Hole was actually better than Nirvana. His immediate response was that I should be removed from the family will. While I did deserve that response, I think my point also stands that Hole is very underrated.
I’ll definitely look through your OTW music posts this summer, Mups! It already looks like we have some overlap in interests. My own musical tastes are pretty eclectic and mood-based. I can listen to anything ranging from indie rock to hard rock to classic rock to pop to hip-hop.
Best wishes to you and your musically gifted family members in all your artistic pursuits!! Remember to “at” me if the PPP MAGA boys give you any trouble this summer. Oh, you KNOW how I like to rage against that particular machine…<< baleful Tom Morello wah-wah pedal sounds >>
** - Not-so-fun fact: the bassist Melissa replaced was a native Buffalo girl who had died of a drug overdose.
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20 hours ago, muppy said:
how Amy didn't make the list until page 7 Im appalled at myself!
evanescence bring me back to life
Hey, Mup! Here’s a few more I’ll add to the master list:
1. Melissa Auf der Maur (bass guitarist, most notably from Hole)
2. Emily Haines (lead vocalist, Metric)
3. Siouxsie Sioux (lead vocalist, Siouxsie and the Banshees)
Apologies if any of them have already been mentioned. I only skimmed through this thread.
I had a brief “creative phase” in my life when I learned to play the bass guitar and wanted to sing in a rock band. It lasted about a year or two, until I realized I had no musical talent whatsoever. I still enjoy listening to all types of rock music, though!
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On 5/27/2025 at 9:23 AM, LDD said:
So, just because Donald has some issue with Harvard the entire country needs to suffer?? Harvard is one of the most important RESEARCH schools on the planet earth. It supports all kinds of developments in math/science/health that the federal government supports through funding and that we all benefit from. I don't get the excitement over decimating one of the havens of higher ed. that propels all of us forward.
As far as the above post about diverting money to trades...great, great, my son goes to a trade school...great school, he's going to get a great job, has a great internship this summer, however, we need welders to weld (yes) but we don't need doctors and immunologists to weld.
Regarding the bolded: it’s so transparent and distasteful how MAGA’s manipulate class warfare rhetoric to feign populism. Their Sophie’s Choice presentation of “trade school money versus Harvard research money” is an obvious false dichotomy. One can easily fund both by, say, raising taxes on the wealthy and/or cutting military spending. And since the Trump administration is operating like the U.S. dollar is in no danger of ever losing its global reserve currency status, then running a budget deficit with a Keynesian stimulus package should also be on the table.
MAGA, however, is all about the vibes of trolling! Sound public policy is too boring. Withholding STEM research funding at elite universities, as well as denying international researchers access to these research labs, does such enormous long-term damage to our economy and national security. I guess MAGA doesn’t realize how large a percentage of groundbreaking research is achieved in just a small handful of universities. Maybe they don’t understand how most fundamental STEM research can only be funded by big government and not by profit-prioritizing private corporations. Perhaps they don’t care how all the government pauses and general policy uncertainty diminish our international STEM reputation.
But this is what happens when you replace policy wonks and eggheads in your administration with conservative media personalities. This is what happens when you 100% cater to a voting base whose only science lab experiences were growing meth in their basements and whose only “advanced degrees” are their subsequent periodontal assessments.
On 5/27/2025 at 11:48 AM, LDD said:Hahahaha, ok...
The fact that some college kids got in a fight at a protest and were charged by police and then those charges were dropped and then their lives resumed is NOT an international incident even though the completely random X account makes it out to be.
Clearly anti-semitism should not be tolerated, to assume that Harvard is a hot bed of it based on outraged X accounts and Alex Jones types is reactionary and naive of you.
That's what I was thinking.
Ouch, one of the site's name caller types I see. Have fun with that.
To be clear: there is NO institutionalized anti-Semitism on any of the elite U.S. university campuses. None at all. Zionists are just upset because organized protests against apartheid, war crimes, ethnic cleansing, and genocide are condoned and increasing in momentum. It’s difficult to justify starving 2 million civilians for nearly 3 months and running, on top of murdering journalists at record numbers (200+ and counting) while sniping children and destroying 90% of all buildings in Gaza (including practically every hospital and school). As the evidence against Israel mounts and the hasbara propaganda fails, the only recourse for cowardly Zionists is to suppress free speech.
My only problem with the campus protests is that their message is way too watered-down and acquiescent to the feelings of liberal Zionists. We are so far beyond the option of a two-state solution now… The Israeli objective all along was land theft for a Biblical Greater Israel, not rescuing hostages or self-defense against Hamas. Smotrich and Ben-Gvir don’t even bother to equivocate on these intentions, and the IDF and the violent West Bank settlers apparently follow suit with these directives. A recent PSU poll shows that 82% of Israeli citizens support the ethnic cleansing of Gaza (which is also Trump’s plan, by the way) and 47% support the outright genocide of Gazans, so to be clear: it is NOT just the far-right Israeli government that’s the problem!
The only moral and practical resolution to this quagmire now is the one-state solution…i.e., the systematic dismantling of this degenerate Jewish ethnostate via international BDS policies. It’s what worked with South Africa in the 1980’s. One state, full and equal rights for all, with no preferences for ethnicity or religion. Syria and Lebanon should have their stolen land returned, too.
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4 hours ago, Roundybout said:
I believe the grounds are that the federal government cannot tell a state entity, the MTA, what to do with their policies.
Yeah, pretty much. It’s a standard Pigovian tax that should stay within the purview of local and state government. It has cleared all reasonable environmental reviews. Early quality control reports in Manhattan are promising (though there are admittedly some parking logistical issues still to be sorted out just north of the congestion pricing district). Favorability poll numbers in the metro area are climbing. Similarly implemented programs in London and Singapore have been successful for quite a long time.
Oh yeah…and the Biden administration already approved it! So on what grounds is the Trump administration planning to overturn it?? Working-class people from Jersey and Strong Island can use public transportation…just as the Pigovian tax intended! Residents still complaining should finally make do on their hollow threats and move to a red state. Everyone else will focus on pushing local government to do something useful with all this additional MTA revenue. On that to-do list, I recommend upgrading the public transportation infrastructure and planting more urban trees.
Also: please vote Zohran Mamdani on Tuesday, June 24 (while leaving Andrew Cuomo completely off your top-5 ballot list).
1 hour ago, Orlando Buffalo said:Then why was it given temporary status with the DOT? I am not arguing with you, because that is a logical thought, but then the DOT is not approving it.
Dunno…you tell us. I suspect another opportunity to “own the libs” and nothing more.
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7 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:
Did we reach white men? Nope. As I said many are angry and resentful for financial reasons for which there isn't an easy answer other than lying to them. sadly, for the country, one is a growing demographic and one is shrinking.
Conversely, how do you think affluent, college educated voters are reacting to attacks on Harvard, NPR/PBS? I suppose, by the numbers, it's better to appeal to the former than the latter...
Reaching these men is super easy: offer a candidate who connects with them on their economic anxieties. Have a policy platform centered on economic issues like universal health care, living wages, collective bargaining, the ACTUAL return of quality domestic manufacturing jobs, and defrayed costs for colleges and trade schools. The modern Democratic Party had a candidate once upon a time who did this. They called his ardent male supporters “Bernie Bros.” What happened to such a salable candidate?? Recall my previous post in this thread regarding Citizens United v. FEC…
I see the attacks on Harvard as an extension of the aforementioned. If you don’t offer these people pragmatic solutions to their real-life problems, they’ll just turn to various alternative “policies” that amount to nothing more than “libtard-pwning” virtue-signaling. The Harvard situation also neatly ties in with my Alexis de Toqueville reference in that same previous post. Anti-intellectualism and xenophobia are deeply ingrained American traditions, and we’re seeing the practical damage done when MAGA’s formulate STEM research policies without understanding how modern STEM research operates. The Harvard anti-Semitism accusations, of course, are a continuation of these dullardly MAGA dullards dullarding about…Zionist propaganda is effective on people unable to distinguish between Hamas and Palestine, or to parse the nuanced etymology/phraseology of “intifada” and “from the river to the sea.”
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16 hours ago, Coffeesforclosers said:
I ignore Donald's rhetoric (he's a professional salesman and pitch artist after all). I look at his actions.
His words are populist, transformative and unconventional.
His actions/policies are fairly similar to George W. Bush and Dick Cheney. He's looked into Putin's eyes and seen his soul. He's for supply side economics. He thinks deficits don't matter. He makes a stink about DEI/Affirmative Action/Political Correctness. And so on, and so on.
All the tariff shenanigans are just the virtue-signaling and grandstanding. W would have executed the same things quietly via smoky backrooms using the Bretton Woods architecture. But then he wouldn't have gotten as much credit or burnished his personal brand.
He has successfully repackaged and sold the Country Club GOP's agenda, because JEB! and his ilk were too hooked on West Wing re-runs, and because Donald's part of the Country Club.
Yup, I basically see Trumpism the same way: rebranded Reaganism and an inevitable consequence of late-stage neoliberalism. It’s always some new culture war topic that divides and conquers the American people when election season arrives: gay marriage, a war on Christmas, illegal immigrants, “dudes” wearing super cute dresses, etc…
I figure this thread will quickly reach the conclusion that we are all given a binary presidential choice, and most of us are employing what we believe to be a “lesser of two evils” electoral strategy. It’s then a basic human psychological reflex to defend and justify our choices up to the point when reality can no longer be ignored.
An important question worth exploring is “why” we ended up with these two particular choices in the first place: Trump versus Biden/Harris. The short answer: see “Citizens United v. FEC” (2010). The long answer: see “Democracy in America” (1840) by Alexis de Toqueville.
My only caveat here with anything Toqueville is that he is widely credited as perceiving Americans to be fundamentally “good” people. I would strongly challenge that assertion at every step along the way in American history, well past 1840. A society worth saving never even considers denying universal human rights to undocumented immigrants, nor does it obsess over its collective 401(k) status as its government funds an active genocide in Gaza. Growing up against a post-9/11 political backdrop, it was readily apparent that fascism is simply imperialism turned inward. Call it “God’s divine will” or call it “karma,” but we Americans deserve Donald Trump and everything that is to unfold.
On that note…um, happy Memorial Day??
14 hours ago, muppy said:he is changing things alright. and his boy Elon Musk too. NOONE saw him coming IMO
maybe Im wrong it often happens
*shrugs*
did you read the trillions with a fooking T SPENDING he is proposing for our country? saving money> OMGoodness LOL
THUD.
That's me dropping dead at the thought of he caring about anything but his rich friends.
FACT: PPP is a better place with Muppy involved.
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21 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
Ouch.
LOL…that was only intended to be a remark on how DIFFERENT we are, not on my perceived superiority to you in any way. We really need to work on your self-esteem!! This is probably among my more critical functions as one of your split personalities.
Another likely reason your forgotten childhood trauma led to my creation was to develop your political morality. In the coming weeks and months, let’s delve a bit deeper into the following issues:
1. Progressive taxation policies for returning stolen wealth back to the working class.
2. Universal health care.
3. American imperialism.
4. Zionism.
5. Capitalism’s role on ecosystem degradation.
6. Factory farming regulations.
<< NARRATOR: Kay puts down her Intro Psychology textbook, turns on Identity (2003) starring John Cusack, and remembers to log out from her Two Bills Drive account so that either Leh-nerd or Muppy can log into theirs. >>
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To be clear: you CAN successfully implement top-down price control policies in certain limited situations (with “capping” or “flooring” preferred over “fixing”). Price gouging collusion in, say, the aftermath of a natural disaster is an example of a free market failure, and it is one such scenario during which the temporary use of price controls would be fine. Price setting is an emergent collective phenomenon, but it’s ultimately done by individual employers based on their anticipated operating profit margins.
What Trump appears to be doing, however, is applying an economic band aid over the early stages of an economic gunshot wound. You can’t just “art-of-the-deal” micromanage your way out of international supply shock inflation LOL… As far as we know, at least, Walmart is intending to set prices based on legitimate prior knowledge of impending supply shocks.
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21 hours ago, muppy said:
Not a single chance in Hell. I mean wtf is a comment like that supposed to mean? that low level really dank trolling make it stop
ridiculous step way off of that . BAD LOOK geesh smh wow that's bad. blech.
Muppy, I’m just shocked that anyone would think Leh-nerd and I have similar writing styles! It’s also quite amusing to think of my alter ego from a dissociative identity disorder developing into Leh-nerd, of all people…
21 hours ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:It means what it means. Not like there haven't been known posters here with multiple screen names simultaneously. Now that's a bad look. I could be wrong but it's a valid observation. interesting that you so quickly came to Lenny's defense.
Wow! I’m REALLY not a fan of these types of character assassinations. They’re tawdry attempts to invalidate political opinions here.
Please contact a moderator or website administrator at Two Bills Drive and ask them to compare the IP addresses, IP address locations, and login histories of Leh-nerd and I. Then report back what you learn.
You can do the same at BillsFans.com, by the way, because Leh-nerd and I are both members there. “Foxx” is the user name of the owner of that website. I’m not sure if Foxx personally knows Leh-nerd, but he knows my real-life identity and can verify that I am who I say that I am.
20 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:People push buttons, Mup, I may on occasion do it myself. 😇.
CAN CONFIRM. See: Section 4-A, Kay’s formal apology outline.
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On 5/15/2025 at 10:28 AM, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
I respectfully reject your apology, and no concession is necessary. A sincere apology comes without conditions. Here is an example, and to be clear, it's a fictional account of what might be an exchange between us:
"I'm sorry I made fun of your haircut, Kay. It doesn't actually make you look like a mental patient."
In your example, an exchange would be more like this:
"I'm sorry I made fun of your haircut, Lehn. It's incredible of course, but I find myself quite distracted and unable to concentrate, so please consider wearing a hat."
See the difference there? It's the old "Hat and the Haircut" paradigm, Kay.
Let's just move forward, and I promise to consider the information shared in your posts for the nugget or two that might compel me to reconsider my view on the world.
My apology is sincere if your emotional hurt is sincere. Stop being such a poophead and just accept this heartfelt act of contrition!! Oh my God, Leh-nerd…we’re in the “Papal Conclave” thread of all places, dude…practice forgiveness! I’m arranging my apology in outline form because I know you like my posts that way.
TOPIC: Kay’s Mea Culpa to Leh-nerd
1. Why Kay Shouldn’t Have Called Leh-nerd Fat:
1-A. It is self-evidently childish and mean-spirited.
1-B. It doesn’t respect the many natural differences among human body shapes.
1-C. it doesn’t account for challenging life circumstances and natural body changes that can influence one’s physical weight throughout one’s life.
1-D. It could trigger an eating disorder in Leh-nerd.
2. Kay’s Reactions to Leh-nerd’s Posts Were Wildly Emotional:
2-A. Causes:
2-A-1. Unmatched reciprocation: Kay doesn’t feel that the PPP denizens put in nearly the same level of effort and thought into their posts that she does, and she unfairly took this disappointment out on Leh-nerd.
2-A-2. Subpar MAGA reading comprehension: Kay’s fundamental frustrations go beyond reasonable left/right political disagreements and into the realm of discerning objective truths (logical, factual, scientific, economic, moral, etc.); regarding Leh-nerd in particular…some say** that Lynyrd Skynyrd’s “Simple Man” was actually a song about none other than PPP’s own Leh-nerd Skin-erd.
2-B. Solutions:
2-B-1. Strive for emotional detachment: Kay needs to compose dispassionate PPP posts with the strict objective of mentally organizing her own political thoughts; the responses are secondary and not to be expected.
2-B-2. Improve communication skills: Kay needs to work on her conversational brevity and maybe increase her use of visual aids (i.e. lighthearted internet memes).
3. Miscellaneous Apologies:
3-A. Calling Leh-nerd smelly.
3-B. Literary allusions to Leh-nerd’s murder.
3-B-1. Murder by cannibalization.
3-B-2. Murder by crossbow.
3-B-3. Murder by “large gun.”
** 3-C. That was me…I said that just now…the implication here being that Leh-nerd is a stupid dumb-dumb head.
4. Counterarguments:
4-A. Subforum hypocrisies: Leh-nerd is well-known at PPP for his jocular banter towards leftists, which oftentimes can be perceived as insult-laden.
4-B. Fat-shaming motivations: Hollywood actor and marginal rock star, Jared Leto, is Boomery like Leh-nerd and is still ridiculously attractive as ever because of his strict vegan diet (those doe eyes also help…and incidentally, in a thread-appropriate way, Leto kinda resembles Jesus!!). Also: see Brad Pitt (maybe vegan?), Milo Ventimiglia (maybe vegan?).
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On 5/15/2025 at 3:48 PM, Roundybout said:
Clinton did it through Congress and created a surplus.
Trump’s budget increases the defect by $4 trillion
MAGA’s aren’t even thinking about the national debt whenever we’re in Trump Economy Stage “B.” Allow me to elucidate…
Trump Economy Stage “A” = Tariffs go up, economy becomes anxious. Insists MAGA: “The manufacturing jobs are coming back! Tariffs will pay off most of the debt! Will we even need an income tax??”
Trump Economy Stage “B” = Tariffs go down, economy stabilizes. Better trade deals to benefit Trump’s donors and friends. Exclaims MAGA: “Art of the deal, baby! Woo-hoo!”
We generally oscillate between the two stages. I believe there’s a funny internet meme about this. Whoever is successfully riding these buy low/sell high waves is making a lot of money. The rollercoaster fun will eventually end, however, when international supply shocks kick in and stagflation features emerge.
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On 5/15/2025 at 9:47 AM, SCBills said:
Trump is probably the only President I believe can negotiate complex peace deals.
Im not sure why those that hate him can’t acknowledge the relative global calm in comparison to other Presidents that we had under Trump 45.
Russia invaded Ukraine before and after him.. not really during his tenure. He negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan, which Biden mangled in the execution of.. he killed terror leaders without much retaliation and his admin negotiated the Abraham Accords, which will likely be expanded upon during 47.
India/Pakistan was about to pop off.. until it didn’t.
Id honestly be surprised if he doesn’t negotiate a new Iran deal and the end of the Ukraine/Russia war in the next year or two.
That “global calm” you speak of is always a mirage, thanks to a corporate American media that rarely covers the asymmetrical power imposition of American imperialism. In other words: we rarely hear much about the collateral damage from U.S. drone strikes, the consequences of our sanctions and embargos on the citizens of other nations, and the attempted coups and regime changes throughout regions like the Middle East, Southeast Asia, and Latin America.
That concludes my general foreign policy diatribe…now getting back specifically to Trump…
It’s kinda weird to give Trump credit for both the 2014 Crimea invasion and Russia’s 2022 Ukraine invasion not happening on his watch. The implication here is that Democrats are super weak, but Trump is super strong and super intimidating. If that’s the case, why is the Ukraine war still ongoing? Why do all leaked negotiation details tell of Ukraine’s significant resource concessions to the U.S., while the aggressor (Russia) is being asked to give up so little in terms of war reparations and conquered land??
Trump had FOUR whole years to withdraw from Afghanistan, but he didn’t because he has always been a puppet of the MIC.
Trump had absolutely nothing to do with India/Pakistan.
The chances of Trump successfully negotiating with Iran are extremely low. He was the one who pulled out of the JCPOA in 2018, so I doubt Iran has any remaining trust in him or in the United States (and we can’t blame them for that distrust).
Israel/Palestine/Gaza…where to begin?! This is the mother of all complex peace deals, and the only realistic path to enduring success is with either a one-state or two-state solution (or three-state, if Gaza and the West Bank were to become separate nations). Israel, which has grown to become an extremely far-right society since the Second Intifada, is unfortunately steeped in genocidal mania right now. Only the U.S. can rein them in, but Trump is completely controlled by AIPAC and Zionist donors like Miriam Adelson. He continues speaking fondly of Gaza’s ethnic cleansing, continues ignoring the Leahy Laws by regularly sending munitions to the IDF, continues condoning settler violence in the West Bank, and continues doing absolutely nothing to stop the ongoing Gaza hunger crisis. Trump, in fact, did a lot during his first term that motivated the Hamas attack on 10/7/23: recognizing the annexation of the Golan Heights, moving the U.S. embassy to Jerusalem, and disrespecting Palestine via exclusion in the Abraham Accords. Trump COULD radically change course, I suppose, if he cares about not destroying his presidential legacy…
And I didn’t even get into the topic of Yemen…ugh…
Anyone who is a student of pro football history, by the way, already knew that Donald Trump was a total fraud. See: history of the 1983-85 USFL. There’s even an ESPN 30 for 30 documentary about it: “Small Potatoes: Who Killed the USFL?”
Terror attacker in Boulder, Colorado an illegal - Mohamad Soliman, 45, yelled "FREE PALESTINE"
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1. My “interesting perspective” on a Hamas alliance with the United States: I do very much appreciate your willingness to politically tango with La Commie Kay, but please don’t step on my dance toes! I never even so much as intimated that an alliance with Hamas should be an objective. I was merely challenging your silly perspective that Hamas posed some kind of threat to our American way of life. It’s akin to George W. Bush’s “They hate us for our freedoms!” insight. No, they hate us because we’re imperialist sh!theads who, in this instance, are supporting our settler colonial proxy state’s ethnic cleansing.
2. You “reading stories of” Hamas violence against Gazans: OMG…I think I just found your fundamental problem. You badly need to diversify your news sources beyond corporate media ones that are in the pockets of powerful Zionists. The hasbara propaganda is apparent once you compare different media coverages of the same events. The fact that you’re fixated on alleged Hamas violence toward Gazans to the exclusion of Israel’s ACTUAL GENOCIDE of Gazans…
3. How “most Palestinians seem to support Hamas” to you: I think you meant to say Gazans instead of Palestinians. It’s hard to tell what Gazans think right now because it’s hard to do polling in there. Their society has broken down so badly to the point that they can’t properly maintain death records anymore. I can only surmise that many Gazans are unhappy with what Hamas leadership has been able to deliver for them to date, most are simply preoccupied with surviving, and nearly all are understandably angrier with the Israelis performing the genocide on them. Gaza is an entire society of descendants of Nakba refugees, so their resentment is unsurprisingly deep and generational.
4. “The innate goodness and decency of Hamas” you think I see: Now you are crushing my tango toes. STEP OFF. This is reckless and libelous speculation on your part. I’ve never come close to suggesting that in anything I’ve ever wrote. In my personal opinion, many of the leaders and members among the military wing of Hamas are likely irredeemable sociopaths.
5. “The current binary choice world” that you live in: Why do you stubbornly choose to see the world like this?? The real world is wonderfully multifaceted and highly nuanced. You are a willing prisoner inside your own mind.
6. “The path forward” for a partnership with both Israel and Hamas: I refuse to lay out such a path because I insist that both the Israeli government and the Hamas leadership have forfeited their rights to continue governing. They should all be charged with war crimes, sent to The Hague to stand trial, and serve their appropriate prison sentences.
7. A Brief Posting Retrospective with Leh-nerd Skin-erd: All in all, I’d say our discussion so far is going pretty well, no? I’m trying my best to effectuate a kinder, gentler posting philosophy with you called “What would Muppy Do?,” or “WMD” for short. It helps that I’m analogizing our debate to a tango dance instead of a boxing match! We’ll see how long this lasts, though. I have my guarded eyes fixed on you…