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4 minutes ago, billsredneck1 said:
2001 running qb took the league by storm/surprise...dynamic
2018 defenses have learned how to snuff that stuff out.
end of discussion. see also 3yrs. of tyrod taylor. lamar jackson = pass
we just signed a two time national champ with nfl playoff experience. why would we corner ourselves into having to have two entirely different offensive schemes. no thanks
that stuff? A good qb with 4.3 speed? I don't think that's been seen before either, but who's to say we would need two spereate schemes? Let Lamar learn under AJ. I'm fine with that.
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11 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
There are big flaws to his game. And alot of time the areas that he does have flaws in are not correctable.
So that is why i say he doesnt have limitless potential
what are his uncorrectable flaws?
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11 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said:
4 of those picks came in one game. Probably the worst of his career and unfortunately also his last. Have respect for him leaving it all out on the field and trying to will his team to victory, but that was not a pretty performance. That coupled with this bowl game his freshman year kind of shreds your SEC theory though.
6 minutes ago, PIP said:I must say he is very intriguing but I'm not so sure that the Buffalo Brain Trust is looking for that type of quarterback again after TT. I think they are looking for a pocket passer.
Playing the draft game conservatively has kept us in mediocrity for too long IMO
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6 minutes ago, Virgil said:
3 inches taller but 10 pounds lighter is very small.
For as much as he runs, he could break easily
The way he runs is what you need to look at versus how much he runs. Very good at avoiding big hits. ACC defenders are no princesses.
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2 minutes ago, K-9 said:
Came across this article today from Bleacher Report, which means I take it with a Mt. Everest of salt. He's not without his supporters and it was nice to see Kiper have his hypocrisy exposed, too. Anyway, if he's not impressing at interviews in terms of breaking down plays or retaining information, it's going to be a red flag. Wish I knew if those at the combine that are worse were any of those expected to be selected before him.
Here's the rest of the article. Again, it's Bleacher Report, so don't hold it up as a great example of sports journalism.
Saw this article as well. Agree that would be a red flag, but none of these QB's are day one ready IMO. Didn't want to harp on the racial issue because I knew that would turn a lot of people off, but the evidence is staggering. Was interesting to hear Chris Long's take being a white defensive end.
1 minute ago, MAJBobby said:Actually his potential isnt limitless. His cieling to me is about a top 15 NFL QB
You're entitled to your opinion.
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5 minutes ago, MJS said:
I'm all for versatility, but the biggest, most important thing for a QB is accuracy. 2nd is decision making.
Tyrod wasn't accurate and he didn't make decisions because he didn't want to throw a pick and couldn't read the field well enough to operate quickly.
I see some of those same traits in Jackson, even though he is more talented.
Not throwing a pick IS a decision and a good one if you ask me. Tyrod drove me crazy as well, but if Jackson can scramble for a first down instead of throwing a pick that's also a good decision. He definitely needs work, but the potential is limitless. Simply labeling him as another Tyrod is just lazy IMO.
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3 minutes ago, joesixpack said:
You think.
Those who've built Lamar Jackson into Football Jesus are just as guilty as the Rosen fanclub of assuming his game is able to be successful in the NFL.
You haven't backed up a single point on this post with reason, only made colorful takes with no supporting evidence.
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3 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:
Do you know how they measure this? Actual throws to receivers running routes or just throwing through a speed tracker? If you watch his tape you'll see he absolutely rifles the ball into receivers hands.
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2 minutes ago, Blokestradamus said:
Oh, one other thing.
If you think he needs to switch positions, go with RB and not WR. He actually has RB traits.
Did anyone even watch the highlight video I posted? Several NFL throws in there. He doesn't need to change positions.
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Just now, MJS said:
Not very accurate. Holds onto the ball too long.
No thank you. Just had a few years of that with Tyrod.
People keep trashing Tyrod's game, but I'm pretty sure he just helped us end a 17 year playoff drought in a year where everyone thought we were tanking. With that being said, he's twice the prospect Tyrod is/was. The game has changed, folks. Versatility is a good thing. It just depends on if we have the coaching staff to coach him up, because if we don't, someone else will.
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4 minutes ago, suorangefan4 said:
He has the weakest arm of any QB in the draft - 49 MPH.
Rarely ever does a QB with an arm that weak have any success. Deshaun Watson is the only one I can think of (his was also 49 MPH). Jackson could become another exception but it's a huge gamble.
Source?
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Just now, Chicken Boo said:
49% completion percentage 9TDs 9INTs against SEC competition.
Source?
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Just now, Seanbillsfan2206 said:
JP Losman averaged 4.7 yards a carry
Are you comparing Lamar to JP Losman?
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Just now, Buffalo Bills Detective said:
John Murphy: 3rd down and long. Lamar Jackson in the shotgun (because that's all he knew in Petrino's offense). Here's the snap. Pressure coming right away up the middle and Jackson will take off. He's at the 30, the 35, the 40 trying to get out of bounds and OH! Jackson took a vicious hit to the knee from the safety and he is down!
I've never seen a safety (or any player for that matter) get a clean hit on him or his knee. I have, however seen him break many safety's knees with his vicious jukes. Would you rather see a non-running quarterback get destroyed in the pocket? Because that's much more likely in your hypothetical.
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Feel free to criticize anything I'm about to type here, but I implore you to read the entire post first because I simply don't understand why more Bills fans refuse to jump on the Lamar Jackson train.
He threw for more one more touchdown than Rosen and Darnold in a much tougher conference on a less talented team. (this is coming from a Louisville fan so please, call me biased, I'll be the first to admit it) He ran for 50 touchdowns in his career. He threw for 27 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in his last year while rushing for 18 touchdowns. This is following a year in which he won the Heisman trophy and every coach is keying in on stopping him more than any other single player. He had the same amount of interceptions as Rosen last year, yet Rosen is consistently crowned by "experts" as the most polished, accurate, NFL ready QB in the draft, while Jackson is considered the most innacurate QB in the draft...WHAT??
Experts praise Allen for his arm strength and how much zip he can put on the ball, he's also praised for his big frame. Meanwhile Jackson is only 2 inches shorter than Allen...oh and here's a video of Lamar throwing a football 95 yards in high school:
If that video is too low quality for you I understand. Here's a video of Jackson nearly breaking dude's fingers in 2014:
The receivers' reactions say it all.
Lamar Jackson had the highest receiver drop rate in the country last year. Why is this? Because he has an absolute ROCKET of an arm. One of the main criticisms of Jackson is his poor completion percentage. Here are the completion stats for each of the top QB prospects last year per sports-reference.com.
Darnold: 64.9%
Mayfield: 70.5%
Rosen: 62.6%
Allen: 56.2%
Jackson: 57% With the highest receiver drop rate in the country
He's consistently had a laxkluster offensive line during his tenure while going up against some of the best defensive lines in the country in the ACC. His running back was a quarterback converted to receiver (with the emergence of Jackson) converted again to running back in Jackson's final year. With this being said Jackson's statistics are absolutely unprecedented. Michael Vick has gone on record several times saying Jackson is better than he was at that age, which for whatever reason seems to mean nothing to anybody.
2001 Michael Vick: 6'0 210lbs
2018 Lamar Jackson: 6'3 200lbs
Experts also question his football IQ...take away your bias if who he is as a man, if you don't think Bobby Petrino runs one of the more complicated offensive systems in football then I have to question whether you actually watch both college and professional football or if you just allow yourself to be spoon-fed whatever NFL Network and ESPN tells you. During Jackson's freshman year when he came in and dominated Bobby Petrino went on record as saying Jackson didn't even know the majority of the plays yet when he got his first start. The next year he had one of the best statistical season in history and won the Heisman trophy over Deshaun Watson who probably would have won it almost any other year with his 2016-17 stats and is currently looking like the best QB from last years draft.
Football IQ can be taught, talent cannot.
I'm not going to sully this post by trying to make the case for Jackson being the victim of some systemic racial QB bias, but the case these so-called experts make for the rest of the quarterbacks in this draft being a better prospect than Jackson just do not make any sense to me. The only quarterback I think who may be a better prospect than Jackson is Mayfield. There are holes all over this roster despite our lucking into the playoffs last year on a miracle throw/upset. Trading up into the top 5 to take a Rosen or Allen would be a huge mistake IMO when we can draft Jackson at either 12 or 22 and use our other 5 picks in the top 3 rounds to take franchise players who will KEEP us in the playoffs.
Thanks for reading. Feel free to make a counter argument, but I'm going to finish this post with his highlights from last year and I just want you to imagine a backfield with Lamar Jackson and Shady McCoy and tell me that wouldn't be a fun time to be a Bills fan.
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This would literally be an ideal situation IMO. Jackson is so underrated it's not even funny.
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20 minutes ago, Lurker said:
Awesome articles. Thanks for sharing!
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McCarron makes sense with Daboll, but you're not going to convince me he's a better option than Teddy...he's a perfect fit for this city and fan base. Absolute class act and a student of the game. Draft Action Jackson and let him learn the position under Teddy. That's my take!
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Why not put him at D-line? Let him learn under Williams for one more year.
Making the case for Lamar Jackson
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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he is much faster than tyrod with a stronger arm...accuracy may be close to the same but he's also 21.