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    ESPN/Barnwell’s All-Pro teams (find the one Bill)

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    2 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

     

    Allen has 42 TDs. The next best is Hurts with 38 and that's with like 15 one yard tush push's.  No one else is even close.  While Allen has been up and down this year, I think his individual overall TD production just smoked the entire league.

     

    Allen has been massively productive from a TD standpoint, but he's also only played what, one turnover free game all year? There's a lot of reasons and they certainly aren't all on him, but facts are facts and there are at a minimum two guys at his position who have played better objectively better in than him in several important categories like turnovers and passer rating - coincidentally, those guys are Barnwell's picks and both of them have locked up their conferences' #1 seeds for their respective teams.

     

    Allen has been overlooked several years in the past and outright hosed for MVP at least twice in my book - but on this particular NFL season if you called his performance top 10 but just shy of top 5 I honestly think that's fair. Still wouldn't trade him for anything 👍

    ESPN/Barnwell’s All-Pro teams (find the one Bill)

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    2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

    It's not like Leonard Floyd has been having a great year or anything, or hell even Rasul Douglas leads our team in INTs despite joining it in October.

     

    Floyd's had a FANTASTIC year, but he's still not top 5 at his position. We're talking all pro in the entire NFL. Does leading our team in INT's make Rasul Douglas top 5 or even top 10 as a cornerback in the entirety of the 2023 season?? Be realistic.

     

    Leonard Floyd isn't even top 15 in sacks right now. Based on how national media votes for these things, even if they added another 2-3 edge rushers to this article he might not even get a mention. It's not about having a great year, it's about being best at his position in the entire league and it's not a snub by any means to leave him out of that conversation.

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    Bills rest starters?

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    1 hour ago, peterpan said:

    I can see the point.  Resting allen if hurt makes sense.  We’d have no chance without him I reckon 

     

    If the Bills and Ravens rested Allen and Lamar respectively next week for their entire games, the league would find out real quick who's actually more valuable to their team I can promise you that.

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    ESPN/Barnwell’s All-Pro teams (find the one Bill)

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    Sounds about right, honestly. Only player of ours I can think would be in legit convo for top 5 at his position this year is Ed Oliver.

     

    Everyone else with potential either got injured (Milano, Daquan) or fizzled out down the stretch (Diggs, Allen). Much as I love those guys, the individual production doesn't justify the achievement if you're talking about just the top 2-3 at their positions this particular year.

     

    7 minutes ago, BRH said:

    McD should be coach of the year if he gets the team to a #2 seed with this little talent.  🤣

     

    You know as much as we like to rag on McD, maybe it's not so crazy to say he's gotten this team to overachieve this year. With Diggs waning this year, Allen having legitimate decision making / accuracy struggles, Von Miller eating up massive cap dollars and being unable to contribute... well, it's something to think about I guess.

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