Brueggs

You might want to change "of" and "from" to with. Its misleading.

Like I said, I am not against social programs, they are necessary. Social Security is not socialism, it is a social program.

Your first problem is that you are trying to compare two very different countries, with considerable differences in population and demographics, assuming you are going to get the same results. You also make a lot of incorrect assumptions about me. I have three close friends in Europe, one in Germany, Praha and Belgium who I speak to regularly. I have also been married twice, both to "brown" woman, as you would put it. In your quest to expose my ignorance, you seem to have exposed your own, simply because I think differently than you do. I believe in the strengthening of our middle class and less government for our constitutional republic. If I wanted socialism for myself, I would pack up and move somewhere else. So, when a small class of elites manage the masses of people who now collectively have very little resources, there is no chance of them becoming oligarchs? I am sure they would never impose their will on the people, would they?

I have no problem with social programs. They are absolutely necessary. The problem that we have here, that many of the nations you mentioned do not, is that many of our citizens take advantage of the system who do not need it, taking away from those that do. I know this happens elsewhere, but not on the grand scale we have here. Also, many of those nations are equivalent to the size of a single state, with largely indigenous populations that teach their citizens to contribute to their society. They assume personal responsibilities that we have gotten away from. We have an influx of people who want to change our society, not support it. They are also more limited in their freedoms and not presented with nearly the same level of opportunities and ownership as we are. America has always thrived when the middle class was the strongest element of our society, but we are losing that. The problem with socialism, is that if its successful, it becomes communism. It goes against the grain of everything that this nation has built itself upon.

I don't know if its the majority, but about half sounds right.

Right. People who have no understanding of what that entails, or those who would choose to move to move to Cuba or Venezuela, but cant, because they don't have the resources because they don't like to work in a capitalistic society. Did you ever wonder why no one is fleeing capitalism?

True. Maybe it will work better when people no longer have a choice...

Texas is changing. I remember going to the playoff game in Houston. I was amazed at all the tent cities beneath the overpasses. The irony is all of the Californians that fled from their high taxes, filthy streets, sanctuary cities and unsustainable programs, are bringing with them the exact same politics that caused them to leave in the first place. It truly seems to be a learning disorder.

I wish I had the answer. For some reason, we are the only country in the world where there is not an expectation not to protect our sovereignty

You literally said "immigrants create jobs", referring to illegals. Do you understand the difference between creating jobs, and filling jobs? You obviously don't. Sorry bud, but you are just too far gone to continue...

Again with the emotional opinion with no basis to substantiate your claim. I enjoy a good debate, but if you're not going to bring any substance to your argument, what is the point? You sidestep the issues of ILLEGAL immigration, human trafficking and drug running and try to fabricate some economic disadvantage. You are stuck in the middle of some type of ideology and cant rationalize your way out.

So, they FILL jobs, not CREATE jobs as you previously stated? Again, ILLEGAL immigrants cannot even LEGALLY fill jobs because a factory (which created the jobs) cannot LEGALLY pay them. Does that make sense? Can you distinguish the difference between legal and illegal? It is significant.

You keep giving your opinion with no explanation. Please explain how ILLEGAL immigrants create jobs? Please explain how the wall is an economic barrier? Except for mules of drugs and human trafficking...I will give you that...

Did you see where I bolded the word ILLEGAL to help you differentiate between ILLEGAL immigrants and immigrants? I thought that would help distinguish the difference for those who choose to ignore that very important point. So, you are trying to tell us that illegal immigrants come over here and create jobs? Do you mean fill jobs, or create illegal jobs? Please expain. I think the wall will prevent some drugs from crossing over, but it will not stop drugs, nothing will. I should have said it will greatly help reduce human trafficking and illegal crossings. Better?

What Trump did in Washington is the equivalent of turning on the lights in the kitchen when the roaches are out. They are exposed, and scramble in a panic to take cover at any cost. Republicans and Democrats alike. Take a step back and look at the big picture. Its crystal clear if you're not guided by hate and a head full of MSM propoganda.

Translation: I have run out of ways to explain away things about my candidate that I would crucify Trump for, so I am going to leave because there is no plausible defense for my lodgic... Right, but something tells my you were 100% sold on the Steele Dossier. I hope you can see the hypocrisy, but I doubt it.

Interesting. So you must be a fan of the border wall? It helps the poor by not allowing ILLEGAL immigrants in who would occupy many of the jobs the poor could fill. It would also help to curtail the influx of illegal drugs coming over the border. So, you like the electoral college when it works for you, but when it doesn't you want to destroy it? Change the rules as you go mentality? You really don't think mail in voting is a plot to undermine the voting system? OK. I guess its easier to understand how you come to your conclusions when we see how conflicted you are...

You see, even when its illuminated for you, all you can see is Trump. Its keeping you from seeing the mess that is otherwise known as Joe Biden. You are blinded by hatred, or should I say programmed?

Exactly what I thought, the standard DNC platform. "Hate Trump". It works well to keep the myopic part of society in check. It keeps them from getting sidetracked and it takes the focus off the guy who cant get out a complete thought without a teleprompter or audio transmitter. Imagine if people judged the candidates on what they bring to the table? That would be a DNC disaster.

Better man how? Morally? He probably wants you to think that. His actions suggest otherwise. Rational and level headed? I'm sorry, but this man is clearly neither of the above. He is in obvious cognitive decline, and that is a sad but true statement. I agree he has an interest in governing, unfortunately his motivation is not for the betterment of our society, but to the benefit of his family. Trumps energy for governing far exceeds Biden's. I would say none of your points make a valid argument.

Why do guys like you, who point fingers at Trump, often overlook Biden's misdeeds? I was debating a friend of mine, who hates Trump, and asked what it was about him he disliked so much. I understand why people don't like the way he speaks, I get that, but the irony of his answer struck me. He said he was upset about Trump saying "he could grab woman by the p*$$y" and Ukraine quid pro quo. Really? What about Tara Reid? Her claim had much more substance, she was physically violated, and was overlooked by the DNC media. What about Joe Biden's quid pro quo that he admitted/bragged about on tape? Also overlooked by the DNC media. Even when provided with actual evidence, my friend wasn't even remotely interested. This is the problem. Trump hate has caused people to lose all objectivity and they have become a danger to themselves and society. They will never see it until its too late, and then they will just blame others for not warning them. Its what they do...

Interesting. The riots and unrest are Soros funded and the virus is the reason for current unemployment...

Its way to early to predict 4+ years down the road, but I would guess he will groom his children to run the county, and sit back and watch all the silly libs running around in circles screaming "the sky is falling, the sky is falling". Meanwhile, normal people will be prospering and thanking God for escaping the global socialist movement that the ill informed have been dreaming of...

You would think, but your basing your hypothesis on people that actually learn from their mistakes...

Spot it you got it?