Mikey152
-
Posts
201 -
Joined
-
Last visited
Content Type
Gallery
Profiles
Forums
Events
Posts posted by Mikey152
-
-
On 4/29/2024 at 1:04 PM, SoonerBillsFan said:
Agreed, gotta go medium with a little blood steak wise. I do hope he can talk Coleman into working with Moulds. I also think Shakir is going to turn some heads this year.
Side note, that's not blood...it's myoglobin.
-
1
-
-
26 minutes ago, PBF81 said:
Well, we do really need another slot WR. 🤔🙄
Maybe we can come up with a new formation featuring three Slot WRs, no splits, and two RBs. Seems to fit with McD's complimentary football MO.
Funny, everyone just slammed Xavier Worthy who's similarly sized but faster.
This place ... LOL
To be fair…if you run two TE and they both play on the ball (split or not), the rest of the skill players can line up wherever you want.
also, lots of teams line up “slot” receivers on the line against zone and/or off coverage..
-
1
-
-
5 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
23 games, 42 recs, 620 yards, 3 tds. The definition of a JAG.
Numbers without context…how lazy is that?
most of those games were as a rookie behind Sutton and Jeudy. Then he had hamstring issues, a torn ACL, a torn pec and heart issues (likely viral) right around when Hamlin almost died and semi-retired.
We are talking skills, here. Did you watch him at Penn State? Or as a rookie in Denver? He is lightning in a bottle. I’m not putting much stock in him breaking out due to his lengthy injury history, but I could easily see him being a Hollywood Brown clone if he can stay healthy.
-
2
-
-
7 minutes ago, Back2Buff said:
Lol, its really not. He's tiny and constantly injured. He is a JAG in a league full of these guys.
A guy like Justin Shorter was excellent on special teams and its something Beane mentioned last year when they drafted him.
Unless Hamler can play special teams, he won't be the 6th WR.
I am under the assumption the Bills are adding another body to this group after June 1st.
He’s hardly a JAG…He is incredibly talented, and he might be the fastest guy on the team.
That said, his injury history is brutal. If he doesn’t make the team, it’s likely due to medical issues.
-
2
-
-
1 hour ago, Simstim said:
I'm still watching, but it has raised a question for me - unrelated to football.
When Keon talked about cooking, he talked about pork chops with a sauce that sounded like he said Deer or Beer sauce. Is that correct? What type of sauce is it?
Deer. It's a Cajun gravy (like how Italians call pasta sauce gravy). Goolge cajun piquante sauce.
-
1
-
-
19 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:
it's hard to fathom they came away with a single WR in all those picks
I think they like the guys they drafted/added last year like Shorter, Shavers, Isabella.
not for nothing, but if (and it is a big if) Kj Hamler is healthy…he’s way better than anyone we could have drafted in round 3 on.
-
I don't know how they are going to turn out or anything, but as somebody who lives in Columbus Ohio and watches a lot of Big 10 football, Curtis Samuel and KJ Hamler were two of the most dynamic college football players I have ever seen. Neither of them really had a position so they got drafted lower than their talent dictated, but both are crazy fast (wouldn't be surprised if they are two of the 10 fastest offensive players in the NFL) and make magic happen with the ball in their hands. Our offense COULD be outstanding if one or both of them hits.
It's a big if, but not out of the realm of possibility. Nevermind Shakir and Coleman and Kincaid.
-
2
-
-
I have never really seen this guy play, so all my knowledge is second and third hand...
Qualifier aside, one talent evaluator (I think it was lance zierlein) said when he saw him at the senior bowl, he reminded him of a "rolling ball of knives" and that stuck out to me, because the last guy I remember hearing that about was...Kyle Williams.
Size, demeanor, playstyle (apparently)...that's who this guy reminds me of. Lets hope that happens.
-
1 hour ago, sven233 said:
It's not the lack of speed in the 40 that is necessarily concerning. Would you like to see it at least a tenth faster? Yes. What is concerning, though, is the tape. Speed aside, the biggest problem he had in college is that he doesn't get consistent separation. It's great that the next gen stats show that play speed isn't an issue. It is a relief in a lot of ways. But, that still doesn't change the game tape where even the receptions he does make, come with a CB all over him. So, maybe the coaches see something that they can help him with in terms of release, route running, etc. that he wasn't doing in college that will use that actual play speed to his advantage. If they do, and he works at it and becomes successful with what they are teaching, many of the other skills in a WR are there for sure. But, unless the coaching staff has an idea of how to fix his separation issues, he is going to have to find ways to win against better competition in the NFL.
My guess is that I think they believe they have a plan for how to incorporate him into this offense and put him in advantageous situations. I think the offense might look dramatically different than it has the last several years. Brady has an entire off season to implement his full offense instead of just piecing things in here and there as the weeks went by last year. I don't know......I am just searching for reasons to believe Coleman will make a major difference for us this year and it's tough when all I have to go by is his college tape and I see him struggling to get open. But, like I've said all along, even though I am critical of him in a lot of ways, the things he does well, he does EXTREMELY well. I am going to put my trust into the coaching staff to help him win with scheme here and there and play to his strengths.
People keep saying that he doesn't separate on his tape...but how many of those people actually WATCHED his tape. And I don't just mean his targets.
If he is running mostly bubble screens and go routes from the X, what exactly do you expect?
-
1
-
-
21 minutes ago, Mat68 said:
I think at the end of day Buffalo did the work on all the wrs. Met with Franklin pretty much every step of the process. Buffalo brass and Allen went with Coleman. You can look at the positive of the pick or the neg that probably comes down to how you fan. His RAS score is over 9. Before Travis got hurt he was routinely projected as a top 10 pick. I think we are at the point to get behind the kid and see if he can meet his potential. Allen couldnt improve his 58% completion too.
Rappaport said unofficial he ran 4.53 after the combine for scouts. Idk if pro day or private work out. Beane said their data showed 4.5 not 4.6. Moulds and Bryant are some positive comps. Both big wrs with return ability in college. That is what Buffalo is projecting him to be.
Another comp I like is Puka...
-
18 minutes ago, Dunkirk Donski said:
Just a reminder...
Don't forget Puka...pretty much a direct comp on who he could be, especially after I saw Puka play basketball
-
Two points:
first point…the Bills have been one of the most successful teams in the league the last 5 years. They haven’t picked earlier than like 25th since 2019 (Ed Oliver). When you are successful like that, it is hard to land new star players without a little bit of luck.
so, instead, you have to do what the Bills have done. Draft a bunch of good but not great guys, trade for some guys, sign some FA and be good top to bottom. There aren’t a lot of teams in the NFL that win every year, and that’s a big reason why. Honestly, I think Beane does a great job base on where we pick.
second point…no rookie was really going to make that big a difference outside the top 3. We should all really be hoping that some of the guys on our roster like Kincaid, Samuel, Shakir, Shorter, Hamler, Isabella, etc take steps forward. All of them outside shakir and shorter were picked on day 1 or 2, all of them are under 28 and all of them are pretty fast. As a whole, the WR corps is considerably fast than last season. Coleman, shakir and Samuel might not sound intimidating…but all three of them are WAY better at RAC than what we have had. They also have better hands.
side note…Curtis Samuel is one of the best against man in the NFL. As someone from Ohio, dude was incredible in college…maybe one of the best I’ve ever seen. If he had a real position coming out, he could have gone much higher.
-
1
-
-
I'd bet money it's Franklin...
Only three WR hit 21+ mph 2x last year: Marvin Harrison Jr., Xavier Worthy, and Troy Franklin.
At 22.3 mph, he was tied for 7th fastest top speed in all of college football at all positions in 2023.
For context, the fastest Tyreek hit last year was 22.01 (led nfl)
-
4
-
-
2 minutes ago, mannc said:
Who are the OTs left who they might want?
They need OT, OG and CB...per reports. Just so happens OG/C and CB are the top remaining guys and would probably go before they pick.
-
3 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:
seems to good to be true BUT there always is a ton of interest in pick 33:
1. teams have 20 hours to think.talk about it, and
2. This year there are 3 players sticking out like a sore thumb: DeJean, Johnson and Newton
And Washington is at 36, so they'd miss out by 1.
-
3 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
I can't see this happening at all. It's a terrible trade for Washington!
Value wise, yes...
But if their guy is at 33, you never know. They have a lot of picks tonight (5)...going down to 4 AND getting a guy they covet might be worth it.
-
53 minutes ago, Mango said:
Adonai Mitchell is interesting. Some of the attitude concerns seem to be linked to his lack of management of his diabetes. I’ll be curious if the Bills think they can manage that. Because if they can he’s an unbelievable athlete.
For any of the film gurus on the board I am curious is Franklin plays faster than his combine time.
Franklin is interesting. 4.41 isn’t exactly slow, but his 1.61 10 yard split was.His jumping was fine/good and so were his shuttles, so it was probably just a bad start. Maybe because he was sick. That said…his flying 20 (the second half) was insane. This matches what you see when you watch him play…his top gear is elite. Worthy was the only guy faster on the field last year.
-
3
-
-
Nobody is arguing the Bills don't need guys that can separate and generate YAC...it was a huge problem last season.
The point is, there are lots of guys in the draft this year that excel at that, so we should be excited. But instead, lots of posters want to trade our whole draft for a big-bodied traditional X. We don't need that to accomplish the goal, especially if we plan on running 12 personnel at any kind of decent clip.
-
We are way off topic, now...
This started off as a post about why we don't need a traditional X receiver because we will run a lot of 12 personnel, so it will be harder to press our skill players.
Now we are talking about how bad we were against man coverage...and the Chiefs get brought up a lot. Go back and watch the Chiefs game...the Chiefs corners were mostly lining up off the ball and being aggressive with the route stem (often beyond 5 yards, but I digress). I only really saw press man when Diggs was playing on the LOS (no Davis and 3 or 4 WR sets).
Do we need man beaters? sure. But you don't have to be big to beat man coverage...you have to be athletic. We weren't too small last year, we were too SLLLOOOOWWWW. And the guys that were fast (Im looking at you, Harty) were trash.
-
1
-
-
11 minutes ago, Brandon said:
As if a 4.41 isn't fast.
It confirms what he did on the field. He's fast. He runs by people.
Not only that, but It's clear just by looking at his legs that he is lanky...I bet his top speed is top tier.
Edit - Only Worthy had a higher on field speed last season. His 10 yard split was 1.61...so a 4.41 is incredible.
-
25 minutes ago, Gugny said:
FACT: There is not one person on the planet who can honestly say that there is a noticeable difference between a standard DVD and a Blu-Ray DVD.
100% gimmick
On a tiny TV, maybe...
Try watching a DVD on a 70+ inch TV.
-
25 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:
Dawson Knox is a pretty mediocre receiver, though. You lose a lot when you're putting him on the field instead of a WR, particularly in playoff games that turn into shootouts when the opposing qb is Burrow or Mahomes. I think @BADOLBILZ is referring specifically to playoff football here, which is where the Bills fall apart offensively.
And you lose something in the running game when you take him off...
I'm not saying you're wrong, but that's a different conversation. Benching Knox for a rookie WR and running lots of 3 wide doesn't really seem like something we are going to do a lot, but who knows...I suppose it is possible and may be dictated by the opponent.
-
38 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said:
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think having Knox and Kincaid as our two 'ends' is a winning formula. Not enough speed to threaten defenses vertically. And what if one gets hurt?
TEs are nice. But a team needs a diversity of weapons to challenge a good NFL defense. Let me daydream for a moment. Imagine we had our current TEs and wideouts and added Eric Moulds and Lee Evans to the mix. That would make for a dynamic aerial attack. We need to move more in that direction.
This is an acceptable take...the two TE set isn't for everyone, and if the goal is to push Knox and/or Kincaid to the bench (and the whole 6th lineman concept), then that is a different story.
-
1
-
-
3 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Oh, I read it all. I clearly addressed your point about the import of WHERE players line up on the LOS. In real application, it matters. What you are talking about is compromising with regard to matchup advantages.
That's a very "on paper" view of the game.
And on paper Stef Diggs should have been putting up big numbers in the postseason in Buffalo. Unfortunately, on the field, his lack of physicality diminished his impact when the officials inevitably tucked away their flags. There are clear advantages to having both size and speed on the perimeter. Especially with the type of QB the Bills have. Whether you call that a "need" or not is just semantics. It's just unintelligent to not aspire to it.
A few points...
I'm not really seeing where you addressed my point about "where" players are lined up...are you talking about having an X on the LOS so another receiver can go in motion? If so, you're literally missing the entire point of my post. With two TE on the field a significant amount of the time, there is less need to line up a receiver at X when you can just have a TE do it.
Further, I think you are missing the whole point. Of course, all things being equal I would take a big fast WR with good hands and ability to separate...but those guys are almost always draft in the top 10. If they slide past that, there is usually something wrong with them. I'd take a Calvin Johnson, sure...but I don't want another Gabe Davis. In the late first round, you're going to be choosing between big fast guys with holes in their game, slot guys, and burners that lack size. Everyone I've seen on this board thinks our WR are too small and we need the big bodied X receiver like Mitchell or Leggette (or mortgage the future for Odunze) to go with Shakir and Samuel, and pretty much ignore and/or want to double dip on guys like Worthy, Franklin, Wilson, etc...all of whom were more productive in college AND better deep threats/YAC players.
Maybe you should go watch the Lions play offense. And while you're at it, tell me all about their huge X receiver...I'll wait.
Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
Two things:
First, the nice thing about Coleman is his best attribute(s) are related to his natural athleticism. So, while he might not be a focal point at the start of the season, he CAN be useful on the field day 1 playing what I would call the "Gabe Davis" role (ie the X receiver who blocks, runs a limited route tree and uncovers on scramble drills). I think his ball skills compared to Gabe give him a chance to be an upgrade in that role from day 1.
Second, I think the Diggs targets are going to Kincaid, Shakir and Samuel (or maybe even Hamler works his way into the rotation). 12 personnel, for example, takes lot of pressure off any outside receiver.
Eventually, maybe Coleman becomes a force...but I think just asking him to win in the redzone and on scramble drills, pick up some YAC in the quick pass game, and do a half decent job as a blocker is all he really needs to do to help this offense be efficient.