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12 minutes ago, unbillievable said:
You can't do statistical analysis on rare instances.. There just isn't enough data to come up with a statement like "16 incidents prevented". It's equivalent to the false argument that a rock in your pocket prevents bear attacks.
Bottom line: Restating the LIE that "no mass shootings occurred in 22 years" invalidates his argument; proven by the fact that he immediately attaches exceptions.
so let me get this straight you're quibbling over months now wether or not there were no mass shootings in 22 years? .. I posted why its right there in black and white 2 articles in which stated that banning assault style weapons indeed saved lives. Would you have argued if it had said 21 years 6 months? Geesh. I think you're quibbling and not seeing the more important issue and that is that banning assault style weapons indeed saved lives.I think its important.... if you have data to support that action made no difference please post it.
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1 hour ago, unbillievable said:
THat last line is a complete lie which invalidates the entire article.
Australia had one horrific shooting resulting in double digit deaths which caused the hysteria that pushed gun control. They didn't have many before that and don't have many after. The frequency didn't change much.
Although, you can argue the methods did get a little more creative.
I disagree that the article I quoted is discredited and here is why... quoted from this link ….are you saying the banning of assault style guns had no effect? I would strongly disagree with you again. https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2019/mar/20/strict-firearm-laws-reduce-gun-deaths-heres-the-evidence
QuoteTheir research also showed that while there had been 13 mass shootings (using the definition of five or more people killed) in the 18 years before the law changes, there had been none in the 22 years following (though there was one mass shooting involving seven members of one family at Margaret River in Western Australia in May 2018).
Modelling suggested that if shootings had continued at a similar rate as that prior to the NFA, then approximately 16 incidents would have been expected by February 2018.
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very interesting https://fortune.com/2018/02/20/australia-gun-control-success/ Australia banned assault type guns and...….
QuoteSo what happened after the assault-weapon ban? Well therein lies the other half of the story twist noted above: Nothing.
Nothing, that is, in a good way.
Australian independence didn’t end. Tyranny didn’t come. Australians still hunted and explored and big-wave surfed to their hearts’ content. Their economy didn’t crash; Invaders never arrived. Violence, in many forms, went down across the country, not up. Somehow, lawmakers on either side of the gun debate managed to get along and legislate.
As for mass killings, there were no more. Not one in the past 22 years.
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I have a few comments to add to this discussion not brought up.
1. The common denominator in these shootings are guns and predominately if not all shooters are men. I find that interesting especially if you are going to tout music and video games as causational to gun violence .hmmmm correct me if women aren't as exposed to those things as men but How to identify just which individuals might be prone on acting out and how to alleviate/mitigate those triggers...a very difficult task in the society we live in but needs be researched at the very least and while these people are young enough to be reached and hopefully treated and their ideologies expressed without violence
2. Rational discussion regarding guns and what to do about the violence they wreak is about as possible as rational discussion between Trump supporters and non supporters. Paranoia and mistrust abide on both sides and consensus seems next to impossible. How to fix That and needs to occur no matter how seemingly impossible.
3. solutions are even less often discussed with calm and rationality because each side is so entrenched and fear they will "lose" wether it be their guns or their freedom to own them at all. NRA lobby is super strong and congress wont act due to fear of losing their support as well as their voting constituent members of the NRA.
I think common sense is none too common in this gun control debate...one solution just may be to eliminate those 100 clip ammunitions which to my way of thinking are unnecessary for non military usage....rapid fire weapons which have been known to be used to kill large numbers of people and have limited non military use Ditto.
Background checks are a Must and can they be expanded in a way to vet out extremists...I don't know or have all the answers
All I can say is something needs to give...wether it be governmental rules and requirements but also the societal issues that contribute to this....I dont think infrastructure will ever completely irradicate ideological extremists but we need Try to somehow allevite domestic terrorist acts from happening.
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2 hours ago, CNY315 said:
to Mark Ludwiczaks first tweet I would love to see that on video Ed Oliver bowling ball 3 linemen Rawr ?
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5 minutes ago, MR8 said:
I dunno Muppy, I am on the fence on this...
Melvin Gordon wants an extension so he isn't risking injury before heading into a FA period... that's actually reasonable. Where as guys like OBJ and Antonio Brown who are vets with 3 + years LEFT On their MEGA deals, and they want more money just because other guys have signed bigger deals in the 1-2 years since they signed theirs... that's just flat out greedy BS, and they should be ashamed....
There is "get paid when you can" and "money grubbing dick bag"... I feel like most guys are just trying to get paid while they can... but there are definitely the money grubbers who make the rest look bad.
Thanks man that is a great post right there....I shouldn't simply assume he is solely greedy for his holdout...it was the greedy ones I have more of an issue with.
Bottom line have a Great agent who will advocate for you STRONGLY uphold YOUR interests Period. Get Paid.
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2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Then that goes to Teams as well right. They Signed it They should Honor it. Not Cut a player
That is a really interesting take and It is logical that my premise should indeed cut both ways but clearly doesn't. I would then have to say that the contract itself is written what moneys is paid if a guy is cut while signing a deal and he does sign that as part of the deal I guess Im just a "if you sign it dont cry later you're not happy because someone else is earning more wah wah wha I just dont care for that.
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4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Thats the Nature of the business. And I am ok with it. However that is what also always gets me with the “Honor the Contract” you signed Argument when it comes to players holding out. You Never hear that Honor the Contract Argument back to the Owners when cutting players
YEP i get super annoyed when I hear that guys sign and then whine they want more money. Being in san diego an example here is they are dealing with Melvin Gordon I have not heard of any resolution there yet I firmly agree that if you signed it you should honor it. Period.
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7 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:
Agree kind of cold but that is the business of the NFL. They knew he was too far behind at this point to make the backend of the roster. So wanted to Free Up trainers time to deal with INJ on players that will and said here is your money go rehab on your own.
its is a cold business with a capital COLD I have had that beaten into me through numerous cuts of players I really admired ... Now its just rooting for the roster in general..a friend of mine calls it "rooting for the laundry"
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I'm really enjoying all the input posted for training camp Props 2BD posters top to bottom. This is as close as many of we transplants all around the country will get to Pittsford
#kindahomesickactually
#GOBILLS
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Thanks yolo and MJS good to know appreciate the input
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LOL Tom Brady...seeing him jump off that cliff recently I was thinking to myself "too bad he was holding his daughters hand..otherwise I'd have been praying for shallow water"
.....does that make me a terrible person? ?
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On 7/27/2019 at 9:02 AM, MJS said:
So he took a banned substance. His suspension will hold for sure.
With the list of stuff they can't take being a mile long, why would they not check every single time they are about to try something new? Seems simple.
Its a cautionary tale to NFL players they should have that banned list and have their physicians check and double check that they will test clean before taking ANYTHING. If there were NO fertility enhancing drugs available that allow he to test cleanly then I'd say he has a valid issue with the NFL unless their rationale is football before family...Id like to see THAT defended in court oboi SMH
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4 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:
I'm sure if you wrote your ticket rep and said you were going to do what your friend did I bet that would be more than happy to sell them to you
Sounds like an amazing person
yes he was...I could write some very uncomplimentary words and adjectives regarding pancreatic cancer but you catch my drift Im sure.
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On 7/18/2019 at 11:49 AM, Buffalo716 said:
That's to stop all the Patriots fans who buy our seasons at a fraction of the cost of theirs
Then resell every game and make money while going to the Patriots at Bills
well I can see why the Bills would want to sell to locals sure but I had a buddy in NYC who had his season tickets faithfully for years, attended a couple games, sold a couple and donated all the rest to WNY childrens charities ..that's just the kind of guy he was though The Best...RIP Tonto
On 7/18/2019 at 11:23 AM, Chandler#81 said:QuoteBills territory/Bills Country. It’s a state of mind more than geology
. Born & raised in WNY, been a fan from their inception. I now live in significantly better climate -by choice, but still attend a game live from time to time and my fandom is as rabid as ever.
Why the reason for the inquisition?
haha I love that quoted sentence CONCUR. Born and raised Batavia and a HUGE billsbackers group here in san diego at gamewatches it feels Just like home :-)))))
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On 7/18/2019 at 8:38 AM, WyoRN said:
I live in the original Buffalo Bill's territory,,,, northwest Wyoming.
haha I think your avatar is awesome I'd not see that before WYOMING is officially BIlls Territory LOVE IT ?
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4 hours ago, Heavy Kevi said:
I wanted Metcalf, and would have been happy with him in rd2, especially without trading up.
I have always understood he has a high "bust factor", but his ceiling is just so freakin' high. Because of his size/speed, if he could clean up his release and work on catching with his hands he has a chance to be top 3 in the league.
I know it's a long shot, but he seems like the WR version of Allen.
At this point, I understand Beane's route, and am ok with who he drafted. He does know worlds more than I do when it comes to football, but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little worried about DK becoming a marquee player that we passed on.
Don't torture yourself with woulda coulda shoulda's as far as draft picks are concerned if we were to get really caught up in THAT kind of drama passing on Khalil Mack for Sammy, passing on Patrick Mahomes u catch my drift you can look at most any draft and do that its basically pointless and depressing lol
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this is more a homer pick for me than anything but I want a Domer on the Bills roster I don't much care which round...I think Julian Love CB or Myles Boykin WR either one would look great in a Bills uniform ?
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This post is for Gugny:......If that forearm shiver Gronkowski laid on Tre White had permanently disabled or ended his career would you be as tolerant of it being just one random shot? …..I don't care how frustrated Gronk was he "acted out of frustration" Baloney... he well could have killed him with that shot I for one will never forget it his name is tainted it was THAT BAD. Goon loser status secured sorry not sorry.
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Julian Love CB Fighting Irish. He didn't have a great combine but the guy is really good in man coverage if you watched him play in college. When the Irish played Clemson he being injured early in that game hampered ND quite a bit. I think he might drop a bit we'll see.
and yes I do home hard for Domer players I think Boykin WR would be killer in a Bills uniform too, great hands, runs great routes and had an excellent combine 4.42 40 and highest vertical leap of any WR
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17 minutes ago, Doc said:
There are a few left, on life-support.
will I be banned posting a competitors chat address by no means am I trolling for members but it is a GREAT bills board billievers.com
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ahem what kind of troll post is this anyway come to a Bills diehards central forum and ask if we are embarrassed to wear Bills gear...Im embarrassed you would ask such a question what kind of weak lame *** stuff is that?? lol @-@
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UPDATE: XSR961 flew to Minnesota today and is returning now, albeit via Dunkirk first. Hmmm . . . .
https://flightaware.com/live/flight/XSR961#bumbles247
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Happy St Pattys day 2BD chatters...Today I wore head to toe green including sparkle earrings and handbag ? traditional corned beef and cabbage dinner with irish soda bread with Kerry gold soft butter tonight (sprouts market) this holiday is HUGE here in san diego and as a matter of fact the local Billsbackers bar held at PB Local had a Bills themed float in the annual St Pattys day parade held yesterday which is EPIC I'll try to post a pic.
shucks pic wouldn't load it is on facebook under san diego Billsbackers
Mass shooting at El Paso Walmart/and also Dayton OH
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speaking only for myself Im in favor of people being allowed to own guns but I believe that assault style weapons have no business being in the hands of civilians. Period. There is seemingly always a slippery slope that gets implied that we mean ALL guns be outlawed I doubt that is a majority belief at all absolutely NOT.
we aren't going to agree so Peace Out brother. I just honestly don't get how you cant see any proof that not having assault weapons in the hands of civilians even conceivably saved lives in Australia and in hand MIGHT save lives here. It couldn't freakin hurt Lol. Thanks for the discussion.