Scott7975

MVP LAMAR!!!

MVP votes are done before the playoffs. It wont lose him anything.

I feel like I have to say this every week lol.

Oh look at that. The goat missed a pass.

If I believe its something that can be coached then yeah. How is that not going low on Mahomes? He went right at the knees.

He made a couple mistakes but I would 100% take Flowers on this team. He is a stud.

I thought he was in but it was quick. Replay: it wasnt even close

Pretty much

and there is the pitch and catch that makes the media drool MVP.

I feel the same way but I also feel at the end of the day that Brady will do just fine. Our problem is not enough playmaking outside receiver talent. Beane gets him that and Brady will be a HC somewhere.

Votes were already in before the playoffs.

But I am told Lamar is so much improved as a passer this year. He's the same Lamar as he has always been. Relies on athleticism and hitting a chunk pass here and there.

I know I am late to this but sending my prayers brother.

This. You don't even need all 22 to see this. I've seen it on the regular broadcast often. I am not saying Diggs is done but he isn't the same Diggs. Someone else elite on the outside may help with that. Maybe scheme might help with it, but Diggs is on the downward slope of his career.

Different offensive philosophies because different QB. Flowers would have killed it with Allen or Mahomes.

I didn't realize he had 3 interviews wow. Good for him if he gets a job, but big loss for us if he does IMO.

Absolutely they were better. This was mostly Shakir and Cook. Very rare was a big chunk play from YAC though, which is more of what I was referring to.

We don't see explosive offense anymore because we don't have prime Brown and prime Beasley anymore. We have an unreliable Davis that is a one trick pony, Sherfield, and Harty. Yes, we have Shakir as well and I think he is the most explosive player on the team but he still isn't prime Beasley. At least not yet. There is no one on the team to stretch the field, get quick separation, has reliable hands, makes contested catches, makes catches that aren't perfect balls, etc. If you want to see explosive offense then you need more talent. Davis, Harty, and Sherfield are not it. I dunno if Brady is the guy or not. I like some of what he did. I think some of what he didn't do was being hampered by lack of talent. This team desperately needs another outside receiver. I think if we get that we get more explosive offense instead of dink and dunk all the time. You can not consistently score by just taking what the defense gives you every single play. Especially when those little short passes don't get that YAC. When Brady was the master of dink and dunk it worked because those guys could take a 3 yard pass and rip off 10-20 more yards. That makes up for big throws downfield. They still had big throws downfield too. You have to have guys that can break what the defense gives you and makes a play too. Throwing 2-5 yards all game is only going to beat bad teams. Sure, you need to be able to do it but that can't be for entire games. Too much room for error to expect to score 7 points on 10-15 play 6-8 minute drives every drive. No top offense in the league relies on just getting 2-5 yards per play.

I didnt want to start a new thread for this so looked for a thread this may apply to. Not really many, but it's worth the listen. I wouldn't really take much stock in the title of it. Sal spoke on Diggs but I wouldn't call it "dishing out the truth." He covers a little bit on Diggs, a little bit about our skill positions (hint not good enough,) McD is basically safe, and the throw to Shakir instead of Diggs.

We all know Mahomes is better than Dak. As much as some want to fight it though its a seed/stat award. Mahomes didn't have the seeding nor the stats. Dak was the 2 seed and also top of the league in stats. #1 in passing Tds. #3 in yards. Mahomes was the 3 seed, #8 in TD passes, and 6th in yards. The award has pretty much always gone to the 1 or 2 seed. The award has almost always gone to the QB that is in the 1 or 2 seed and lead the league in TDs (or top 3) and also top 5 or so in passing yards. At least for the last decade or so. The rest of the list for those that care... AP Most Valuable Player – Josh Allen (Bills) – Lamar Jackson (Ravens) – Christian McCaffrey (49ers) – Dak Prescott (Cowboys) – Brock Purdy (49ers) AP Coach of the Year – Dan Campbell (Lions) – John Harbaugh (Ravens) – DeMeco Ryans (Texans) – Kyle Shanahan (49ers) – Kevin Stefanski (Browns) AP Assistant Coach of the Year – Ben Johnson (Lions) – Mike Macdonald (Ravens) – Todd Monken (Ravens) – Jim Schwartz (Browns) – Bobby Slowik (Texans) AP Offensive Player of the Year – Tyreek Hill (Dolphins) – Lamar Jackson (Ravens) – CeeDee Lamb (Cowboys) – Christian McCaffrey (49ers) – Dak Prescott (Cowboys) AP Defensive Player of the Year – DaRon Bland (Cowboys) – Maxx Crosby (Raiders) – Myles Garrett (Browns) – Micah Parsons (Cowboys) – T.J. Watt (Steelers) AP Comeback Player of the Year – Joe Flacco (Browns) – Damar Hamlin (Bills) – Baker Mayfield (Buccaneers) – Matthew Stafford (Rams) – Tua Tagovailoa (Dolphins) AP Offensive Rookie of the Year – Jahmyr Gibbs (Lions) – Sam LaPorta (Lions) – Puka Nacua (Rams) – Bijan Robinson (Falcons) – C.J. Stroud (Texans) AP Defensive Rookie of the Year – Will Anderson (Texans) – Jalen Carter (Eagles) – Joey Porter Jr. (Steelers) – Kobie Turner (Rams) – Devon Witherspoon (Seahawks) The NFL and The Associated Press have announced the finalists for their annual awards for the 2023 NFL season. Award winners will be announced at NFL Honors on Thursday, Feb. 8 at the Resorts World Theatre in Las Vegas. NFL Honors will air live at 9 p.m. ET on the CBS Television Network and NFL Network and stream live on Paramount+ and NFL+.

MVP in part has always been a stat award. Usually goes to 1 or 2 seed and the QBs are almost always top 3 in TDs at the very least.

Woods wanted out. Nobody ran him out. Jones still took years just to be a decent guy. Gabe is not better than Woods.

I like Brady and I won't be mad if he is retained as OC. I just hope they do a serious search and not just hand him the job like they did Dorsey.

Yet I have said almost all year that Bass was off and got argued with every week about it. It took until KC playoff game for people to agree with me.