Domdab99
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25 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
I'll dial it back a bit. The question was the Bills beat the Titans but at what cost. I believe that was intended to ask whether winning with a more conservative game plan was somehow negative in stunting Allen's development. You said, I believe, you would rather him throw the ball all day and lose, you just want him to throw. He was forced into that somewhat in Green Bay and you saw the outcome, a lot of sacks and such.
So my question is simple: how does him getting sacked like that, losing like that, truly contribute to his development?
Oh, and bring the cards.
I didn't say I wanted him to lose, I said I wouldn't mind the Bills losing if Allen is obviously progressing as a QB.
As for the GB game, I thought the game plan was horrendous and did not help Allen at all. But yes, we didn't see him make an obviously awful throw and INT like he did in GB, so that's progress. I want to make it clear: I love Allen and want to give him the best chance at succeeding - now and in the future.
Being a poker player, you should know what being "results oriented" means. That's saying that McD's punting against the Colts in OT was obviously correct because it worked. THAT'S first-level thinking.
If I determine the best way to cross five lanes of high-speed traffic is to close my eyes and rush head-long across the highway - and I make it - that doesn't mean that my strategy was the right decision.
Well, I live in Las Vegas. You can usually find me at the Aria or Wynn/Encore 5/10 games, sometimes the 2/5 games.
I love hosting players who are sharks in their local game and think they actually know what they are doing. Come on out! ?
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And Bill O'Brien isn't any better.
The Texans had a total of nine offensive plays inside the 5-yard line. Let’s see what happened:
Play 1: third-and-1, DAL 1 — Jet Sweep TD
Play 2: third-and-2, DAL 2 — incomplete pass
Play 3: fourth-and-1, DAL 1 — incomplete pass
Play 4: first-and-goal, DAL 4 — incomplete pass
Play 5: second-GL DAL 4, QB sweep, Watson for 1.
Play 6: third-and-goal, DAL 3 — incomplete pass
Play 7: first-and-goal, DAL 1 — Alfred Blue for no gain
Play 8: second-and-goal, DAL 1 — Watson stuffed on a sneak
Play 9: third-and-goal, DAL 1 — incomplete pass
So that’s, ummm, not good.
We could put some blame on the players for not executing the plays, but there was no imagination outside of the first touchdown. You have Deshaun Watson, a dynamic athlete, and O’Brien didn’t call anything that had him rolling out of the pocket or include some unique backfield action to confuse the defense, like the Rams or Chiefs would be doing.
Also, how about getting under center? It’s not illegal for that to happen.
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On the flip side of those coaching decisions, we had Sean McVay of the Rams.
McVay is uber aggressive, as are most younger head coaches, and it always seems to pay off. It helps that he’s got a big, veteran offensive line and some excellent offensive weapons.
The Rams were up 33-31 against the Seahawks with under two minutes left in the fourth quarter. It was fourth-and-1 from the LA 43. The Rams could have punted the ball and played defense, and it looked like that’s what they were going to do. The Seahawks had no timeouts left at point either. Instead, they went for it and got enough yardage to win the game.
Here’s what McVay told Peter King about this decision:
“I think the biggest thing was this: Our offensive linemen had the confidence to be able to get those six inches. I thought Jared did an excellent job of mixing up his cadence a little bit, and I felt like he could catch them off guard. We attack success. We don’t fear failure. We want to go for the win in that situation. Getting six inches to close it out was something that we felt the percentages were in our favor.”
I would have loved to play for McVay. His confidence rubs off on the whole locker room. The Rams play like they aren’t scared to lose, and that’s a big reason they haven’t lost.
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2 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
I'm a bottom line guy. And I win a lot at poker. You would rather your team lose so you can watch the young QB get killed. That makes sense.
lol sure you do. And you're turning this into a black or white issue when it's not. I didn't say anything like what you just said.
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One thing I love about McVay, is that he understands the percentages and isn't afraid of losing.
Yesterday, he went for it on 4th and 1 from around mid-field to close out the game, instead of doing what every dumb coach always does: punting the ball.
I mean, how is Jason Garret still employed? He literally gave the game to the Texans.
The Cowboys had to a chance to win this game in overtime but decided to punt on fourth-and-1 at the Houston 42 with six minutes left. The Cowboys have this big offensive line with two more than qualified options, Zeke and Dak, to handle the rock. On top of that, the Cowboys are 19-for-20 on fourth-and-1 over the last two seasons. It seems like a no brainer. But not to the “clapper.”
In his post game presser, Garrett said it was “a long one yard.” Yikes. Only a few more months until Lincoln Riley is the head coach of the Cowboys.
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1 hour ago, Max Fischer said:
I believe you are 100% wrong. I see a rookie QB who is willing do anything to win. On the last drive he was ready to win, was cool in the pocket and the team clearly believes in him. Allen is full of confidence and he looks like he cannot wait until next Sunday. That has a lot to do with Allen's personality, but it's also because of very good coaching.
I actually agree with you on this some....Allen is amazingly confident, and maybe he's just happy to win. But I'm sure it also bothered him a little bit that the game wasn't put on his shoulders - like you would expect every QB in the league to do.
But yes, he's incredibly poised and I love that about him.
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1 hour ago, oldmanfan said:
Yes. Because the Colts had done squat all game and they knew they'd get the ball back.
Did they win that game or lose it? Remind me.You're what we call in poker parlance, a “first-level thinker.”
And you will never get it.
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3 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Open your eyes next week when you're watching the game.
I bet you were one of the guys who said, “it worked, so it was the right decision” after McD punted in OT vs. the Colts, aren’t you?
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18 minutes ago, WhoTom said:
On the flip side, others suggest he could have benefited from sitting behind a seasoned vet for a year or two, like Mahomes learning by watching Smith, in which case he'd have zero throws in a game. Getting Josh on the field, albeit with a limited passing attack, gives him some experience without totally throwing him to the wolves. It's a happy medium.
I can see this. I’m just against the “we’re taking the ball out of your hands because we don’t trust you to win the game” mindset. That can not have felt good. I’m sure the win helped, tho.
16 minutes ago, bobobonators said:its difficult to complete passes downfield when your wide receivers cant get separation; and compounding the WR’s deficiencies with a poor Oline and you have a recipe for disaster in the passing game.
I feel bad for Allen.
Hey, don’t get me wrong, I love Josh and think he has a chance to be the Guy for the Bills.
But one thing we know about him, is that he’s resilient...all those bad Wyoming games and then he comes out and lights it up in the next one.
I want to see that here. Give him the reigns.
but yes, he has no supporting cast, I agree. But put that in the receivers, then, if they can’t catch the ball :cough Andre Holmes cough:
I just dont want Dabol and McD to turn him into a game manager this season in the hopes of winning 7 or 8 games. Might as well have kept Tyrol then.
I want Josh to fling it. And learn from THAT.
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Lol you have no clue what you’re talking about if you think Allen did anything well yesterday. He was bad. Indecisive. Inaccurate. He had a nice run for a TD. Yay.
two straight games now where he has played quite poorly, and the game plan is not helping him.
but yeah, bringing in Derek Anderson, that’ll help him. ?
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8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:
Who won the game yesterday? Buffalo. What QBs get confidence when their team wins? Pretty much all of them. Put it on the O line and have them respond? A good thing unless you're a Bills fan.
Only in Bills country does a team win a football game and the response is "But at what cost?"
Only in Bills country are fans this !@#$ing clueless about what's good for the team, the new QB, and the long run. Can't believe you'd want to trade wins this season for Josh Allen's development.
If that Titan's receiver doesn't drop a gift TD, the Bills lose that game, and the pitchforks would be out over how pathetic the offense was. Especially poorly Josh Allen played.
And you really think Josh Allen got a lot of confidence when his offensive coordinator tells him, "We're putting the game on the offensive line. Run the ball"??
Know what would give him confidence? "Go sling it. We live or die by what you do. And we'll take the result, either way."
This is how bad Josh Allen was: his QB rating was around a 42. Our punter, who thought he was doing a fake FG when no one else did, had a QB rating of around 39.
This is not giving Allen confidence.
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Those are good points. I listened to it, and I agree.
The Bills should not be a team trying to win with smash-mouth football, limiting mistakes, and getting McCoy 20 carries a game.
If it is, why did we draft Josh Allen and get rid of TT?
Let Josh Allen be Josh Alen. Let him loose.
When I hear Allen say at a press conference that the coaches told him we were going to put the game on the freakin' offensive line?? THIS offensive line? Really? How does that affect Allen's confidence - or, what he feels is his coaches' confidence in him?
Let the wild horse run free.
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I really liked this guy’s fire. Hope he can keep contributing.
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Anytime you can play a ChinHolio-coached team, you’ve got to like your chances. Awful coach.
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I’ve been pleasantly surprised with his game decisions, actually. After the Colts game punting fiasco last year, I was afraid we had another Marvin Lewis or Mike McCarthy.
but McD shows growth...he’s gone for it on 4th down a few times this year when the game wasn’t yet on the line...that’s promising.
The D looks pretty good.
He he really has little to do with the offense...
so, yeah...I think he’s doing well.
Lol look what Garrett just did! Punted on 4th and 1 from Houston’s 41 in OT. Cowboys never saw the ball again.
im glad we have McD and not someone like Garrett. O’Brien isn’t much better. That whole game was a tutorial on bad football decisions.
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Glad the Texans won tonight...time for a let down!
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What’s he mean, “at what cost?” Who got hurt?
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1 minute ago, Boatdrinks said:
No prob man. Not trying to be douchey or anything. I can see where it looked a little off
Oh, I was the douchey one lol.
Been grading papers all weekend, so I’m seeing this crap in my sleep now.
I mean, you aren’t going to pound the rock down the throat of the Texans, so it’ll be interesting to see what David can cook up when the Bills have no passing game.
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He was awesome
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5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
No, I meant post as I stated. Today’s Offense would definitely have looked right at home in the NFL circa 1975.
The question I answered was “ when are the Bills going to get respect from Vegas “ btw.
Ahhhhhhh, you’re right! ?
....shouldn’t have had that last beer.
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47 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
When their offense looks like it belongs on an NFL field post 1975.
Uh, it IS “post 1975” right now.
Did you mean “circa?”
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One thing I liked - Josh didn't get hit a whole lot this game.
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Wish he had someone to throw to, so he could throw some bombs like Darnold and Rosen do.
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So the team who shut us out last week loses to the Lions, and the Bills beat a team who, in the last two weeks, beat the Super Bowl champs and the Jags.
ok
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I'll go with Dean Marlowe....kid came in and played perfectly fine. Pretty good for a guy who was on the practice squad last week.
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Posted · Edited by Domdab99
Hmmm, I think it'll take a lot longer to convince the old guard while they are still in power. Plus, analytics in football doesn't really work like it does in baseball. Too many moving parts.
Game decision things like when to go for it, when to punt or kick a FG, however, can be quantified mathematically. And has been. Tey just aren't using that math, for the most part. You know how long it took every team to finally use a 2-point conversion chart?
If I was Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett would've been fired immediately after the game last night.
How Ron Rivera and Mike McCarthy both still have jobs is also amazing to me. Horrible in-game decision makers.