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2 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Weren’t both Allen and EJ MVPs Of the Senior Bowl?
Daboll’s OC resume is less than impressive but it’s at least better than Hackett’s when EJ was drafted. It’s why I wanted Rosen because I don’t trust the Bills to develop a rawer q.b. We will see.
Me too. So many similarities, and no QB whisperer on the staff.
Nix was on record stating that he knew nothing about QB mechanics, as well.
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5 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
Again, not true. EJ couldn't repeat his throwing motion from down to down, much less over a game. He had a pretty big hitch in his delivery and a tendency to push the football. His foot placement led to his constant overthrows, which was a regular occurrence at FSU.
He also consistently struggled to hit any moving target and couldn't anticipate open windows, even in college.
Ok, I'm saying 20/20. That was not diagnosed, or well known until after, as far as I know. I'm not saying that isn't true, just that it wasn't viewed as a problem at the time. Just like Allen, he was believed to have fixed some problems by the Senior Bowl.
While I could be wrong, I think your bringing up an issue that the Bills discovered when they finally hired a QB coach, not an issue that was widely known at draft time.
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22 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
That is simply not true. EJ doesn't have the fundamental foundation to build on. He lacks the ability to consistently repeat his delivery, even to this day. His feet look like Bambi trying to ice skate.
He had zero chance of being a consistent, productive NFL QB in Buffalo but the probability wouldn't increase much anywhere in NFL.
I think your hindsight is 20/20, and that your ignoring alot of the conversation surrounding him in 2013. He was projected as having all the tools, and there were concerns over whether he had recieved proper coaching. There were some pretty good breakdowns of his strengths and weaknesses posted on this board and how they didn't gel with the play calling. Footwork was an issue at times, and it might still be, but I don't recall any major mechanic issues. The issue seems to be anticipation and touch, especially on short throws. He was better at longer, intermediate throws (especially on 1st down), weaker on short throws on third down, and all Hackett called was run, run, pass, having him repeatedly attempt short tight window throws on third down that he sucked at.
You got to be able to make those throws when your a starter, no doubt about that, but its not like he had excellent coaching either.
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9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Yup. Allen isn’t ready for this yet. And if struggles, inpatient fans will want him benched the second he struggles.
Im not a big Allen fan but they guy deserves at least 2 years starting before you bench him. It’s embarrassing how quickly fans turn on young qbs.
For what they gave up to get him, yeah. Sit him a year, at least. E.J was progressing fine until he got cocky and didn't run out of bounds when an NFL safety was bearing down on him. After that, it was all over. If they sat him a year, before playing him, that might not have happened.
Its pretty critical for a developong QB to progress steadily, and to recieve increased reps, cut his reps and hes done.
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5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:
Didn’t we have a bet about EJ? It’s funny that this horrible qb beat out former board favorites like Connor Cook and Christian Hackenberg.
1) his OC and qb coach was Nate Hackett, who never coached at the pro level and biggest claim to fame was being the OC for Cuse in the Pinstripe Bowl
2) in his first start, he threw 2 tds and left the field with the lead against NE. How many Bills qbs have done that?
3) he got benched for a spineless coward, who “won” games without scoring tds.
4) when he was competing for his career inBuffalo, he had like a 155 q.b rating in the preseason.
5). When he was the worst qb ever and was going to be out of the nfl, he beat out Connor Cook for a backup job.
6) he had a much better college career than Josh Allen.
yup, EJ was probsbly overdrafted. He does play mechanically. But his development here was a complete joke and if the Bills do the same with Allen, he will suffer the same fate. But the guy isn’t close to as bad as some of you want to make him out to be and he keeps winning jobs and collecting nfl checks.
Agreed. Whenever an impatient nincompoop says they want to see Allen start right away, I shudder for this very reason. You don't reach for a project and start him immediately just to appease the fan base. It never works.
Getting injured and benched can ruin a young qb fast, from a sports psychology standpoint.
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33 minutes ago, Alaska Darin said:
EJ was a bad college QB surrounded by elite talent. He didn't improve much during his college career, so it was pure folly to believe he would overcome all of the things he was terrible at even if he was put it an ideal NFL situation.
He probably should have been a UFA. I still can't believe the BILLS wasted pi k in the top half of the first round on the guy.
In all fairness, all the qbs in that draft sucked, and they traded back before taking him and used that pick on Kiko, so it was pretty much a wash. Waiting too long for Cousins and Wilson was Buddy's big mistake. E.J could still end up being the best q.b from that draft, which says more about the draft than the talent evaluators.
They had to take a Q.B in that draft, and E.J was rumored to go to Philly in the 1st. The problem is that they were too worried about wasting picks and waited too long to take a QB. Guys get pushed up the board when a draft is weak, and that one was historically weak at QB.
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11 hours ago, stony said:
Just a hunch. I'm not picking.
I just like finding out what people don't like about something that I enjoy. Trying to see the "other side" I guess.
The way you described Deadspin, I feel the same way about Barstool. I enjoyed their stuff a little bit in the beginning, but not as much anymore.
There's a couple of really good writers at Deadspin, but their content gets lost amidst the dick-picks.
They are not barstool; they hate barstool.
They are staffed by a lot of young writers who can confuse cruelty with criticism on occasion, but they have the best comments section, and its moderated well.
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31 minutes ago, NoSaint said:
Are the gifs an every post thing now?
They are hip with kids.
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16 minutes ago, DC Tom said:
You're an idiot.
I asked you once before: what are my opinions on women? Quote me, please.
16 minutes ago, DC Tom said:You're an idiot.
I asked you once before: what are my opinions on women? Quote me, please.
I don't like reading your posts. About this or football, so I would prefer it if you just blocked me and left me alone. I haven't come across a single of post of yours that I thought was interesting (I generally skip them) and I do not want to go back through them.
You call people idiots regularly, yet think you still deserve their attention. Your a bitter, tempermental poster who is stubborn, angry, and lacking in social grace. I would rather stick a fork in my eye than go back through your posts.
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11 minutes ago, DC Tom said:
Or advertising for her cosmetic surgeons.
You know very little about women, sir. What they lie about and what they don't lie about. And given some of your opinions its not surprising. She probably already had work done, and she probably doesn't want people to know she had work done. Thats why she was freaking out over her face, which was her primary concern, when speaking to the dispatcher.
A woman who has had a lift that gets attacked will go apeshit over the lift being ruined. Everything that happened and everything that she is saying is plausible.
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13 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said:
Are there a lot of Instagram models out there that people are supposed to know how they are???
I didn't realize being an Instagram model is the cashier at a grocery store of 2018.
Its a thing. Viral marketing. She could get paid for product placements in photos. If she even makes a bit of money doing that she's not going to torch her online brand. Not if its all she has.
I doubt she wanted the photo of her all messed up to get out. Her friend probably released it too get herself attention. We are dealing with alot of selfish, superficial people here. Not criminal masterminds.
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1 minute ago, Commonsense said:
Check out the latest deadspin article, more of the same
Yeah, read it. I'm a big fan of their staff.
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7 minutes ago, Fadingpain said:
That is one hell of a good, fictional word you invented there!
Typo on a smart phone with big hands.You know that, though. And its why I usually go back and edit. You also know that, and are just being a bitter ass, like usual. If my arguments make you uncomfortable, maybe you should grow up.
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1 hour ago, Commonsense said:
Surprised the new deadspin article isn’t here yet, with Shady and his jewels and his pimp. He is really unlucky or really immature.
You don't keep getting unlucky, over and over, which is where the NFL's personal conduct policy will come into play whether he is charged or not. Its not hard not to be accused of criminal conduct, yet he is accused of it regularly. And if they catch the guy he could roll on him, even if he wasn't involved.
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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:
I agree.
That was my understanding of the victim's reasons for believing Shady was implicated in the robbery, from her lawyer's letter sent to the media.
I don't know if there's an alarm or security codes the victim possessed and used, and if you do, you know more than I've seen stated.
I'm not sure who "you" are here, I'm simply explaining what her stated reasons are for believing Shady was involved. I'm not passing judgement on whether or not they're credible in this post. In other posts I've pointed out that I don't find it believable that McCoy, who is competitive and career-minded, would jeopardize his career by "setting her up" when he has a court date pending and can presumably wait for the law to take its course.
On the other hand, I also don't find it believable that an Instagram model who lives off her looks, would hatch a plot that involves putting them at risk.
This is one where my attitude is wait and see what comes out.
Agreed. Anyone who thinks that an Instagram model would pay someone to smash her face up has never met an instagram model. They are more superficial than shrewed.
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1 hour ago, LikeIGiveADarn said:
I think the most likely scenerio right now is she was robbed, and in her upset state, said it might be McCoy. The fact that her attorney is already backing off on the DV allegations shows damage control to me.
Yeah. All evidence points to that, not to a staged robbery. If she wanted to make something up she could have told the cops that he hit her during the 3 previous incidents they were called; she did not. And her only priors are failing to appear in court for traffic fines.
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Its a tornado of stupidity, really, creating a situation where it will be difficult to verify or deny a connection to Leshean.
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2 hours ago, Peter said:
Wait a minute!
There are some here who have spent hours arguing that she had the right to live there. I guess she even realized that she had to move out.
O8oq
Correct.
You are not going to resolve that argument. Those laws are really complicated, and not always clear, and if they were in a relationship there could be other laws on the books that could apply.
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19 minutes ago, DC Tom said:
What would you label it when I call you !@#$ing crazy?
I would say that you have an irrational suspicion of women that is ignorant and stupid and that you deserve to be criticized for your opinions.
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7 minutes ago, DC Tom said:
We've heard these saying before, and this isn't a buzzfeed clickbait article.
We're just not normal.
They don't have a right to appeal?
Oh good...you're back.
BuffaloSol, THIS is the idiot that thinks calling a woman crazy is victim blaming.
Isn't there a victim of a school shooting that you should be harassing somewhere right now. Is Alex Jones not on yet?
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10 hours ago, dubs said:
The stat you cite is in this book? Or a book about the topic. Two very different things.
What stat do you want, I only quoted one stat. You seem to be asserting that I quoted 2. The first one is well known and accurate regarding false crime reports. When someone says 50 50 its a figure of speech, never said it was a stat. If it was a stat I would of said it was. You do know the difference between a stat and a figure of speech, right. Or does that need to be explained to you too. Just like the fact that people who insist that women inflict abuse on themselves without evidence are !@#$s.
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52 minutes ago, dubs said:
You actually are friends with them? Like real life friends!? Wow. You are very enlightened and thanks for gracing us with your wisdom.
*Still waiting for the underlying researching that shows people who get their news from conservative sources believe false accusations account for 50% of all accusations made.
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/9781351519199
Feel free to read the book. There's alot on media framing and victim blaming in there, since you care so much about the problem.
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4 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:
"Than" please explain.....? Seriously?
The point you make about the victim being bashed isn't something I disagree with.
The point you try to make, without citing references, that conservatives and football fans are dumb is what my post was about. You call entire groups of people dumb because "survey" but show no survey at all. It is funny that you can't write a sentence but that you can judge the intellect of entire groups.
And for the record I think it would be ridiculous to call liberals or soccer fans dumb too.
Yeah I didn't say football fans or conservatives in general. Football fans who get their news from fox, was my point. I'm actually friends with alot of very intelligent conservatives. And they think Fox and the Republican party are really dumb, too.
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2 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:
You keep talking down to people but you have mixed up "you're" and "your" too many times to be taken seriously, especially when implying large swaths of the population are stupid.
I don't know what happened during this attack but at least I know that you're not properly articulating your point.
Hehehehe, a grammar rip. I have criticized folk who have insisted that a victim of violence beat herself up, because I think that saying something like about someone who has gone through a traumatic incident is stupid and cruel. If that argument confuses you, because it was not properly articulated, than please explain to me how I should go about it politely, and clearly.
Because fact that your more bothered by my grammar, and not by baseless accusations launched at victims under some bizarre pretense of rationalism, says alot about your values or lack of values.
EJ Manuel says benching with Bills sent him into depression
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Similar things were said about E.J that were said about Mahomes.(He was a popular choice amongst alot of the QB folk on this board). He did not go to the right place, it happens, and the fact that he is still in the league shows that he was not a total bust. If he was he would be out by now.