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#NFLCombine RB measurements
Heaviest: Derrick Henry (247 lbs)
Lightest: Tyler Ervin (192 lbs)
Biggest hands (tie): Ezekiel Elliott, Brandon Wilds (10 1/4)
Smallest hands: Kelvin Taylor (8 1/4)
247 lb for Henry? Will be very interesting to see his 40 time.
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This thread really confused me for a minute! Then I realized it was from a whole year ago. Not sure you need a crystal ball anymore. haha
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Combine should be really interesting with all of the QBs throwing. I'm looking forward to that.
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LOL. When the Bills lost to KC, for all intents and purposes they were out of the playoff race. Only the most optimistic, most ill-informed, drunk, blinders & rose-colored glasses on fanatic person thought they could still make it. That's not to say that there weren't a lot of those folks around here though.
I'm not a Bills fan, or any of those things. I do follow the NFL and seemed like they were in it to me. My apologies.
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I am pretty lukewarm on the Browns staff. Hue Jackson's claim to fame is going 8-8 with a bad team in Oakland. He did well as an OC in Cincy but inherited an experienced, playoff QB and loaded offensive roster. He will not have that here. I don't dislike it, I'm just not celebrating yet. I feel he is rather unproven. Sure, 8-8 would be an improvement. But then what? He's never been to the playoffs as a HC. He has very little HC experience. As far as Horton, not a fan of him at all. Titans, the worst team in the league, didn't even want him and just let him leave for a lateral move. But still better than Jim O'Neil. Best hire at this point looks like Pep Hamilton. But he was Andrew Luck's OC in college and NFL. Easy to look good with that to work with. Once he didn't have Luck, he didn't look good, and got fired. I don't know anything about Kirby Smart but again he was working with Adrian Peterson. Easy to look good with that. Plus, why didn't the Vikings try to keep him, again this was a lateral move. I am keeping an open mind though and recognize this is a rebuild. Until they find a QB, it is all moot.
I think Reich's firing had less to do with him than McCoy wanting to make room for Whisenhut. Somebody had to take the fall for a terrible season. It probably should have been McCoy, but since not, the offensive staff got it.
The Chargers spent 3 picks, including a 1st rounder, on Melvin Gordon. He had zero TDs and generally looked pretty bad all year. The injury excuse only goes so far. The Chargers had multiple games where they only scored 3 points. That's never acceptable when you have HOF level QB who was setting passing records this year. They couldn't score. Reich isn't a good OC, he is a good QB coach.
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Is he still selling cars at the dealership in Randolph or was that only during his 2014 ban?
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I would too. I have a gut feeling this kid will figure it out and he'll stay out of trouble.
Why would you think that? He has a pattern of the same issues over and over and over and over at every level since high school.
I don't see the Browns entertaining any trade offers for Gordon. He is a top talent and by all accounts has been well behaved and focused on his return to the NFL (MaryKayCabot has an article about him discussing his behavior).
The Browns are the Browns but they would outdue themselves if they moved Gordon before he restores his value. It's wishful thinking to be able to acquire him for a mid-round pick. More realistic options will be available via FA, look for Sanu or Jones to be visiting Buffalo.
Roman likes trick plays, my money is on Sanu.
Other way around. The Browns were trying to trade him for a year when Banner and Lombardi were here with no takers.
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I am fine with it. But, please stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just win. Rex is always trying to reinvent and change things to his way to show he is better for the reason of trying to prove he is better. Be better by winning!!
If she was Rex's assistant....Rex did a poor job. What part of the poor job was she responsible for that earned her a promotion?
Right?
We were terrible last year and Rex has more control of the circus?
Coach and win Rex! Dennis Thurman will be a great HC in the league and then you demote him? Results matter Rex!! He hasn't won in this League in 5 years. Adapt, evolve and improve or you will be left in the rear view mirror.
Right! She has been with Rex 6 years now and part of no winning seasons since her first. Changing culture.
I am not saying a woman shouldn't anything. I am saying Rex and his side shows seem more important than him working, planning, teaching, doing his job and ultimately winning.
I hope it's his last season or he changes and turns things around.
Win Rex! Win against good teams! Go 10-6! Make the playoffs! Be a doer and not a talker!
Do you really think that Kathryn Smith's administrative role on the Jets and Bills played a part in their record? Or that the Quality Control coach on any unit is to blame? This is a negative referendum on Rex Ryan that he hired a female coach with 14 years of NFL experience to be a QC coach? One of the stranger posts I've seen, sorry. I also don't understand the part of the Bills being "terrible"... they finished .500 and were in the playoff race into late December. Interesting perspective. I am a Browns fan. The Browns were "terrible." The Bills were "pretty good, but not good enough." Just my own very humble opinion, of course.
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I was at the game and I definitely think Brown was faking, so did everyone around me.
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I was at the game. If you think Marvin Lewis should be fired (I don't, though he isn't absolved of all blame), then Tomlin should be fired too. Not only because he underachieves every year with a HOF QB and befoe Saturday hadn't won a playoff game in 6 years, but because he perpetuates a culture of dirty play, stupid penalties, and embarrassing antics by players and coaches including himself. It was gross. Has been like that all year. I don't care who won, but do I think Brown was faking at the end? Yep. No doubt in my mind. He's already cleared to play, he never had a concussion, he flopped. Porter was not on the field to check on him, he never even looked at him, he was there to stir things up. How many times is William Gay going to the dirty bird in the end zone and guys taking 15 yarders for taunting before Tomlin does anything? He does not discipline his players at.all. The Bengals deserved to lose. But anyone who thinks the Bengals are the only team to be stupid and dirty are overlooking a lot on the other side.
It was a very volatile crowd and atmosphere. It was the weirdest game. Guys with their helmets off on the field, running into the locker room after plays, assistant coaches getting into it with players - wtf. The official were asleep out there for most of the game and then let the outcome rest on their subjective call. The Steelers didn't deserve to move on any more than Cincy.
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Season tickets are sold based upon fans expectations of seeing winning football. Hiring the worst defensive coordinator in the NFL doesn't enhance those expectations one bit. That shouldn't have been too complicated to understand but I clarified just in case I wasn't clear enough.
Not sure why the snark? He's not the coordinator, that was why I wondered why it would matter to season ticket sales.
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Well at least next season our expectations as fans will probably be exceeded as of now we pretty much have NONE... This hire certainly will not help season ticket sales.
The assistant coaching staff affects season ticket sales in Buffalo? We don't have a head coach or a QB. Like, at all. And fans still buy season tickets.
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If Buster Skrine got the contract he did in FA, a corner like this at his young age is going to be highly coveted and paid if he hits the market.
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It is because I think he is a terrible coach.
A terrible coach in general, or a terrible coordinator? He has a history of being a good coach - why do you think he's terrible? He was good enough for New England while winning Super Bowls. Unless he is a coordinator, which he wasn't good at in his last stint, I'm not sure where the "terrible" evaluation comes from and just curious.
Nope. Rob Ryan has been run out of several organizations because of how bad his defenses have been. outside of 2006 with the raiders. Rob Ryan has been DC of defneses that ranked at best 16th.
Actually his best defense was ranked 4th. But he was run out of 2 teams as the DC. Was he ever "run out" of anywhere as a position coach or assistant coach that wasn't a coordinator? Ken Whisenhunt was run out of two teams as the HC. Does that mean the Chargers shouldn't make him their offensive coordinator? Jim O'Neill was a good position coach in Buffalo and a bad DC in Cleveland. Sometimes a coach is best in a particular role with a certain level of responsibility.
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I am surprised you all are upset about this. Is it because you all seem to not like Rex? It doesn't appear that he is the going to be the defensive coordinator or run the defense. Rob Ryan is a good defensive coach. He was quite good as a DC while in Cleveland. He ultimately wouldn't be called a successful DC after his time in New Orleans. But simply as an assistant? He was very successful with the linebackers in New England and I have seen a lot of people say they think your linebackers need a lot of help. It is funny that a lot of people here seem to want Mike Pettine back, but his defense completely failed in Cleveland (ranked worse than New Orleans). Rob's track record is actually better than Mike's. Unless they are firing Rex and replacing him with Rob, he isn't running your defense. Is it because of how he looks or because he is Rex's brother and you don't like him? What makes him a "clown?" He seems like he would be a good addition to a staff as an assistant.
If it comes down to how a guy looks, should the Browns not hire Matt Patricia?
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Wow! If that happens Haslam will turn into a genius. That is a game changer in Cleveland for sure.
Anyone is better than Farmer. Like, ANYONE. Matt Millen, even.
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If only there were some way to actually know which team was better, like say playing each other head to head.
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In January when Wrecks was hired, I made a few posts about how you guys (and gals) would want Rex out of here before long. I admit I'm too lazy to look through the posts from the past 11 months to see, so this is an honest post and not a troll attempt.
At the time, I was told by most responders that the Jets front office was to blame and that Rex would be successful in Buffalo because he would have the support of the front office. My thoughts on Rex being a clown with no ability to discipline his team, have input into an offense, and/or motivate the team consistently enough were met as unsubstantiated opinions and nothing more.
What's the general consensus on him as a coach as we stand heading into the final week against my Jets? I want this game bad, and I know that despite his many shortcomings, Rex can get a team motivated for any one single game as well as anyone.
Your thoughts, Bills Nation?
His offense looks great (no input? He's the one who got the QB) and he seems to motivate very well. I don't get the "I told you so" and I'm not even a Bills fan. I don't know about the discipline part but I also think worrying about penalties is overrated. The Jets seem to get plenty of their own so I wouldn't laugh so soon.
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hahahahahahahaha. wait... hahahahahahahahaha
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No they were not stuck
They wanted either Watkins or Mack, and were willing to pay the price to get one of them.
Happens to be that they had their choice, and had Watkins rated higher.
By the way, have a nice holiday
You too! It's the most wonderful time of the year (Bowl Season
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Jeff Fisher hasn't made the playoffs since 2008 and hasn't won a playoff game since 2003. He actually talks quite a bit, but can't back it up. He keeps firing assistants - maybe he should fire himself.
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I don't see anyone complaining about having SW on the team. I see lots of people complaining about the Bills FO trying once again to outsmart everyone when all they had to do was rank the 3 WRs in order of preference, sit back and wait till the 9th pick, and take one of them.
The primary reason the Bills have sucked for 15 years is horrible decisions in the first round of the draft; both in terms of selections and trades. It would be great if that would end some day.
Were they stuck on one position? Seems like most team's boards are ranked in order of player, regardless of position.
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We are fine. The jtsp/enlightener tag team doesn't speak for the normal fans.
Odell's so amazing that the Giants have the same record as us in the NFL least. Meh.
He is really good too. As are Allen Robinson, Mike Evans, Allen Hurns, etc. It was a good draft class for WRs, it turns out. Just can't understand the point of view that because they are good too, that it can't mean your guy isn't just as good or even better in certain areas (like his jaw dropping routes). Or that you wouldn't be over the moon that you have him. The trade is over, you can't change it, might as well enjoy what you got out of it. Your board is incredibly informative for fans of all teams and that's why I come here sometimes, but I will always be fascinated by some of the inability to appreciate some areas of your team that are truly exciting and elite.
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So Pettine didn't go to the Lou Holtz school of press conferences. This is way overblown by the media. How dare he say anything interesting? Why even have press conferences? Just say the same thing in the box of boring every week. I'm not the world's biggest Pettine fan but why is he being criticized for being honest (while still praising him immensely) and saying what is pretty much the general consensus? I think Wilson is a really good QB but he had some bad games this year, and is still in process of proving himself among the guys he mentioned in the "top tier" who are HEADED TO THE HOF for the love of god.
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I don't understand how you can ever complain about having Sammy Watkins on your team. He is only 22 and already one of the most feared weapons in the league. Take the time to appreciate the fact he is on your team instead of wringing your hands about the trade. It is like staring into the sky and trying to find the clouds when the sun is out. The Browns were involved in two of these WR trades and when you are on the side that actually gets the elite player, you are the lucky ones.
Crystal Ball: Top Prospects for 2016 NFL Draft
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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I meant that the 20016 combine and draft is upon us and this thread is from 2015 saying there is a crystal ball to 2016 prospects... just found it odd!