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This is what I suggested yesterday in another thread on here:
The solution is more refs in the booths with more camera angles. For each of those refs covering the receivers there should be a second ref in the booth working as a team to make the right call. Those two refs for each side of the field should be in constant contact making a joint decision on whether there is a call or non call on each play with the booth ref having the tie breaking vote because they would get to view multiple angles. In reality the sideline refs should be nothing more than puppets throwing the towels only when the booth ref has clear video evidence of a foul. And the video evidence should be displayed for the fans at the game and on television for every single foul.
We as fans have better viewing angles than the refs on the field do. Each sideline ref gets only their one angle and they are expected to make the perfect call at full speed every time. We get to see the play replayed again and again and again from multiple angles. So the fix seems reasonably obvious to me - Give the refs the same viewing angles as the fans so that they can see what the fans can see. Call penalties from the booth - but have the ref on the sideline throw the flag. And make the officials provide video evidence of every penalty. No evidence = no penalty. In my opinion this is a no brainer that would reduce poor officiating substantially. And it could be executed without slowing the game down like challenges do.
Increase the number of cameras on the sideline or skycams to whatever is necessary to provide 360 degree angles for every play as well as a view from close to directly above. The technology already exists and it's dirt cheap. Why not use it.
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5 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said:
Calls such as PI should not be dependent on camera angles as much as spotting the ball on 4th-and-1. Missing calls such as the Diggs shirt pull is ridiculous and is not even subject to debate or requiring of the right camera angle.
If you look at where the ref is standing and his viewing angle it is understandable how he did not see the jersey pulling. And the way Diggs throws his hands up in the air it makes it looks like he is "over selling" the pass interference. In this case it was interference and should have been called, but I can see how the ref on that side of the field missed it. You can't miss that if you have enough camera angles to make the call. In that case Diggs' body is blocking the view of the defender pulling his jersey.
If that ref gets to see what everyone else could see from multiple angles, I think he throws the flag.
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3 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
More than missed calls my gripe with officiating is consistency. Consistency throughout the game, between the crews, and week to week. You watch 5 or 6 different games on a Sunday and you see 5 or 6 different standards being applied across the league. In one game they let everything go and in another game they call everything including stuff that's not even close to being an infraction.
I know these officials have a tough job and have to make split second judgments, but they've got to be more equitable and blind to the names on the backs of the jerseys when making calls. Watching week to week and game to game you might be left with the impression these crews are playing favorites. And who got the idea to eliminate PI reviews?
Like yesterday, you're putting the flag away then put it away. Don't let 2 or 3 obvious calls against one team go and then make one against the other when the games in OT.
We as fans have better viewing angles than the refs on the field do. Each sideline ref gets only their one angle and they are expected to make the perfect call at full speed every time. We get to see the play replayed again and again and again from multiple angles. So the fix seems reasonably obvious to me - Give the refs the same viewing angles as the fans so that they can see what the fans can see. Call penalties from the booth - but have the ref on the sideline throw the flag. And make the officials provide video evidence of every penalty. No evidence = no penalty. In my opinion this is a no brainer that would reduce poor officiating substantially. And it could be executed without slowing the game down like challenges do.
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37 minutes ago, All_Pro_Bills said:
Yeah, at least buy us dinner first. And thanks for stealing a great comeback and a gut it out performance by Allen with a PI call against the Bills defense they wouldn't make and obviously were afraid to make against Tampa's secondary with several opportunities to do so at the end of the 4th and OT. Like we've seen so many times before the Bills get hurt by inconsistent officiating at a critical point in the game. Was their anyone watching the end of the game here that didn't expect the ref's to screw the Bills at the end?
I expected the Bucs to commit penalties late in the game and OT. I expected the refs not to call them. They normally don't call them in those situations. Yes the Bills got screwed. And they will get screwed again the next time they are trying to come from behind and "hoping" or "relying" on a ref to make a call in their favor in that situation. If you put yourself in the situation where you NEED a ref to make a call at the end of a game, you are most likely going to get screwed (unless Tom Brady is your quarterback).
The solution is more refs in the booths with more camera angles. For each of those refs covering the receivers there should be a second ref in the booth working as a team to make the right call. Those two refs for each side of the field should be in constant contact making a joint decision on whether there is a call or non call on each play with the booth ref having the tie breaking vote because they would get to view multiple angles. In reality the sideline refs should be nothing more than puppets throwing the towels only when the booth ref has clear video evidence of a foul. And the video evidence should be displayed for the fans at the game and on television for every single foul.
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I expect Tampa will run a 2 high safety shell just as they did against the Chiefs in the Superbowl. I don't think Tampa will blitz much. So, it will be up to the offensive line, especially the tackles to hold off the pocket crushing pass rush.
In order to be successful Allen will have to run with the ball more often and feed the shorter passes to Beasley & tight ends. Sure hands Beasley will be the difference maker. He will have 10 + catches. Perhaps we see a tight end touchdown over the middle in the red zone this week.
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On 12/9/2021 at 3:53 PM, Nihilarian said:
Brian Daboll to the passing offense is like what Greg Roman was to the running offense.
Just keep passing, just keep passing...
I still have difficulty understanding why this OC can't figure out how to defeat a cover 2 shell defense. Something he should have done in the second half of the very first game the Bills saw it. Half the season gone and he is still having trouble with it.
I don't think it is Daboll who struggles with that. It is Allen who struggles to make decisions when facing that defense. Allen struggles because he is persistently looking for that deep ball first which is taken away at the snap because you have an extra defender defending each half of the field. It begs you to run the ball and throw quick short passes and execute 12 + play drives for touchdowns. The Bills have proven to be bad at that. They don't execute short yardage plays well enough and consistently enough to do that. Cover 2 combined with a high pressure pass rush is Allen's Kryptonite.
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How about an exaggerated version of the Buffalo Grunt? Make it sound more like a longer drawn out roar.
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3 minutes ago, Sugar High JA17 said:
Copied from their website as of right now weather.gov:
Tonight
Rain and snow showers likely before 1am, then a slight chance of snow showers after 4am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 26. Windy, with a west wind 26 to 31 mph decreasing to 18 to 23 mph after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 48 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible.
Forecast right now from Weather.com
8:00 pm
35°
Cloudy/Wind
chanced of precip - 24%
W 24 mph
9:00 pm
34°
Mostly Cloudy/Wind
chanced of precip 17%
W 24 mph
10:00 pm
33°
Mostly Cloudy/Wind
chanced of precip 11%
W 22 mph
11:00 pm
33°
Mostly Cloudy/Wind
chanced of precip 14%
W 20 mph
From Wunderground.com
8:00 pm Mostly Cloudy/Wind Temp-35 ° Feels like 24 ° Chance of precip 24 % wind =24 mph
9:00 pm Mostly Cloudy/Wind Temp-34 ° Feels like 22 ° Chance of precip 16 % wind = 24 mph
10:00 pm Mostly Cloudy/Wind Temp-33 ° Feels like 21 ° Chance of precip 13 % wind = 22 mph
11:00 pm Mostly Cloudy/Wind Temp-33 ° Feels like 21 ° Chance of precip 13 % wind = 20 mph
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1 minute ago, Sugar High JA17 said:
Call me crazy but this game could end in a tie 6-6. missed extra points
35-45mph winds Gust near 60mph...Yikes
10% chance light rain at Game-time...We can't blame the hydro-meteors falling from the sky tonight
Thats pretty radical right there but 'Right Dude Here' aint gonna sweat it guys
Where are you getting your weather reports from? Seems hyperbolic to me.
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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:
Not my intent to pee in anyone's coffee. It's my honest opinion based on what I see. I realize it's not what most what to read on here. I think everything I said has merit and validity.
An honest Bills fan who didn't think the Bills would win tonight might come on this forum and say that once and then move on. He wouldn't go from thread to thread to thread saying it over and over and over. You know who would do that? Some ***** Patriots fan troll. You sir are a ***** Patriots fan troll. You suck. And you can wallow in your misery with your other fox-but-hole- buddies when the Bills rip your heart out again.
The Patriots literally haven't been able to beat the Bills in years. I am happy to drink your tears of sorrow.
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22 minutes ago, colin said:
a close game is of course possible, but my gut tells us we will know in the first quarter which way this will end up. i expect the winner to kind of dominate the loser. i have it 40% the pats just truck us and we get pushed around, 35% we show improve, body them up, and allen just makes super man plays to dominate the pats. of the 25% in the middle, i see us grinding out a win at 20%, and the pats sneaking one at 5%. so, i have us winning 55% of the time, but getting dominated 40% of the time. this will be the biggest statement game of the season.
What scientific method do you use to come up with these percentages? lol
So first the Patriots have a 40% chance of winning and the Bills win the other 35% - in that scenario the middle wins 25% of the time?
No wait....then you say....
20% chance the Bills win and only 5% chance the Patriots win? I like those odds, I think... but who wins the other 75% of the time?
Wait...then you corrected yourself and said 55% chance the Bills win but only a 40% chance they lose.
The more I re-read your post and look at the percentages you posted the more insane the whole post is. Thanks for giving me a chuckle this morning.
Bro, I hope to be as drunk by game time as you already appear to be now. 🤣
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2 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:
Even with a loss the Bills still can survive and make the playoffs. It won't be easy with a most likely loss to Tampa next week. Today, we will find out what kind of team we have. For me, its hard to get optimistic about this game. The Pats seem like a better more balanced team, more physical, and better coached. Let's hope we get the best version of the Bills tomorrow. If so, the Bills ahould win the game. The more I analyze the game the more I'm leaning towards a close hard fought Patriot win. Sucks even thinking about losing...
So you're just going to go from thread to thread on here this morning pissing in everyone's coffee. Some Bills fan you are. Bet you are fun at parties too.
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3 hours ago, Moulds_80 said:
My dog had to poop at 3am, so I take him out and in my track on the ground I find a Allen Diggs '21 sign. Dont know what to make of it...
Did your dog lick the sign or poop on it? That was your tell.
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Hourly forecast on weather.com shows wind slowing down to below 10mph by gametime and continuing to decrease from there on. Bombs away!
Ooops. Nope. That is on Tuesday! Doh!
For tonight - Wind at 8PM = 26mph. 23% chance of precip at that time.
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15 hours ago, FireChans said:
So 2020 was a great offensive season by the Bills. Wonderful, exciting, electric, whatever you want to call it.
We can all agree the 2021 offense has its moments where it feels like a continuation of 2020 and moments where it feels like we are back in 2019. But what do the numbers say?
Outside of the huge difference in time per drive (which may be related to sheer number of possessions due to a great defense), we are still a very similar offense per drive. We score often, we are efficient, we get a lot of yards and we get a lot of points. Our TO% is actually better despite our INT number climbing, likely due to less fumbling overall.
Conclusions? Josh is just not as sharp as he was last year, but overall he is still playing great football and leading a great offense, an offense that by the numbers is just as good as the one last year.
The variance we are seeing from Josh is not really uncommon, even among the historically great. Last year, Aaron Rodgers threw for 48 TDs. This year, through 11 games, he has thrown for only 23, which will likely place him in the mid 30's as a season total trendwise. His passer rating is a full 17 points less this year compared to last year.
The great QB's have good years, and great years, and insane years. We aren't in an insane year for Josh. We are in a great year. And our offense continues to remain great.
I like your thought process and agree with your conclusions.
I am a big believer in looking at stats relative to the rest of the league. In my opinion it is the most logical approach to analyzing stats and the one that gives the clearest picture of what you want to know - "how good is this player or this team under this year's circumstances." It would be ridiculous for someone analyzing stats to say one team was better than the other at running the ball just because they had more total rushing yards at the end of the season compared to last year. It is ridiculous because it doesn't account for things like number of attempts nor changes in personnel on your team or opponents nor how strong the opponents rushing defense was nor strength of schedule nor a million other variables.
The way you eliminate more of those noisy variables is by comparing your team under its relative circumstances right now to last years team's relative circumstances as they were last year.
All I care about is whether my team is better this year compared to the rest of the NFL than it was in prior years. Because, that gives me the best insight into how good or how bad my team really is. How dominant is my offense or defense this year compared to how dominant or not it was in previous years.
Nice analysis.
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2 minutes ago, Success said:
He didn't take Josh seriously last year. I remember before the 2nd game, he said something about Allen that was surprising for him - it was subtle, but it wasn't his usual "build the opponent up" stuff. He was critical.
Allen burned the Pats that game, repeatedly. BB is honing in on him - and he has the kind of line that can be disruptive.
If McD was trying to play chess w/ BB - he might change our attack to run-first for a game, or something like that. But I hate it when coaches try to out-BB BB, and it never works.
Why are you imagining this being some kind of masterful chess game. The Bills beat the Patriots the last two times they played them. It's not about chess. It is about executing on offense and tackling well on defense. The outcome of the game will be determined primarily by whether the Bills offense is able to execute at a high level and whether the Bills defense tackles well. The Bills are the more talented team by far. They just have to execute.
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There is still time to right the ship and get back to their winning ways.
I remain cautiously optimistic. Get your team healthy again. Beat the Patriots twice.
Play your best football in the Playoffs. This Bills team still has the weapons and capability to outscore any other team in the NFL when its first stringers are all healthy and playing well.
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I would be okay with it if you were actually handing the ball to the big man to get those 3rd and 1 conversions.
But as a pass protector. Nope. I would rather use a halfback or even a fullback because that is one more offensive weapon the defense has to account for. A backup tackle wouldn't be. And the big dumb clutz would probably be out of position to make the block most of the time anyway. It would work for all of 1 game maybe. After that any decent defense would be thankful for us doing it because it would be like their 11 guys playing against only 10 of ours.
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10 minutes ago, BaaadThingsMan said:
I said some nice words but my true thoughts are ***** the cheatriots.
Amen.
All that matters is which Buffalo Bills team shows up at these games. If the good Bills team shows up, Bills are going to win, even if the Patriots played their best game of the year.
If the Bills don't show up, they can lose to anyone. Just proved it in Jacksonville.
The Patriots, even on their best day this year, aren't good enough to beat a well playing Bills team this year - and it ain't even close.
Pats fans are nothing more than homers dreaming of being good again one day.
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2 hours ago, eball said:
- I knew this place would be a wreck after Sunday’s game. It was disgusting to watch. I’m not buying the “they didn’t care enough” b.s. (I mean, look at how the defense played) but someone needs to light a fire under the OL and get them to show some pride in what they are doing. How can they look at Josh taking a beating, and the way he addressed the media after the game, and not take it personally?
I think the offensive line knows they sucked and they are ashamed of it. They just lack the talent/ability to do anything about it.
A lot of the issues in that game were also the result of a really lousy offensive game plan. There were deep plays to be made in that game. They weren't attempted just like back when Tyrod was QB here. (I think Allen was being coached out of it for that game. I could be wrong. I am speculating.)
Jacksonville's defense was never really tested far enough beyond the line of scrimmage. Jacksonville's defense got more confident and more aggressive as the game went on as they realized they were actually capable of competing with a team that is supposed to be "far" superior on paper.
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All I know is that this offensive line is what is keeping this Bills team from being consistently dominant on offense. It is hard for the rest of the offense to polish their execution if the offensive line isn't executing at a high level with consistency. Thank god for Josh Allen being able to sometimes pull magic out of his ass when need be.
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Why do I have the feeling this thread is going to end like this the next time Oliver has an invisible game.
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4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:
Indeed. My preference is also do not get married which so far I have managed to achieve. I might go further and call the institution "outdated" rather than simply "traditional" but regardless of what people do or don't think regarding their own desire to get married I think imposing their view of morality onto the relationships of others is frankly a little odd.
Food for thought:
If we don't hold each other accountable for common sense morality - exactly who is going to?
Are you and I better off living in a world without morals?
Those are rhetorical questions by the way. Not meant to spark debate on a football forum.
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This belongs in the main thread on this topic.
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Donald Parham Injury from TNF--One of Worst I've Seen
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