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16 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:
Wow.
You made THREE entire threads about Rosen's politics.
SouthNYFan is all about politics. what can I say
I would prefer you take that to the PPP board.
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I agree with this
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10 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
He looks like a spot starter who will primarily be a backup at the NFL level so I 100% disagree. Rosen and Darnold are simply better prospects who have shown more.
Yes cornerblitz we disagree about Rudolph. I see something in Rudolph that you don’t. I will say this if the Bills draft Rosen I will support him and root for him to do well as the Bills QB or any of the top 6 QB’s. Secretly I would love it if the Bills got Lamar Jackson this guy could end up as the most exciting player in the NFL. I really love Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph and Jackson.
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1 minute ago, SouthNYfan said:
You've made it clear that Rosen will drop because of his politics.
Now you are trying to act like all along you said he'd drop because of medical.
Just stop.
Politics can be discussed wherever somebody feels like.
That's the beauty of not living in communist Russia.
Accrual protests and such I don't agree with in the workplace.
Discussion, especially if prompted by a question ?
Talk all you want
This is a football board go to PPP if you want to talk politics. I will not fall for your stuff again. I’m talking about which QB I prefer based on there play and how I think there play In the NFL will be.
So I like Allen, Mayfield, Rudolph and Jackson. your order maybe different but I will not put you down because I don’t agree with it. So keep it on football please.
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1 hour ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
Rudolph doesn't belong in the conversation at 12 or even 22 IMO. If forced to pick, I'd take Jackson because he has shown much better in reading defenses, going through progressions, and delivering from the pocket. In addition he brings an addition threat to the run game. Allen has a bigger hill to climb in terms of NFL readiness. Still hoping for a trade up to grab one of Rosen or Darnold.
I predict Mason Rudolph will end up with the Better NFL career over Darnold and Rosen based on there play during there NFL career. Bills should stay put and draft Rudolph at 12 and use there draft capitol. This is my opinion not sure what Mcbean will do. It’s been reported that they have scouted Rudolph hard for the last year.
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33 minutes ago, Fan boy '92 said:
Honestly, your Rudolph comment doesn't make any logical sense at all if you've seen any of his tape. The guy, after assessing the field unnaturally quickly, without hesitation throws to all parts of the field, hitting receivers in stride, with very few picks. His receivers rarely need to adjust to his throws. In fact, balls are placed where the receiver has the best chance to catch them at all levels of the field. His deep throws look like other passers' medium, his mediums look like their short. He does it consistently. He rarely has a down moment. It's pedal to the metal at all times, usually deciding games before the half. That's why some posters and nfl guys are saying he may be the best of the bunch. Just sayin...
Could not agree more with this statement. I would be super excited if we got Mason Rudolph.
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4 minutes ago, SouthNYfan said:
90% of your posts on why he will fall are based on your disagreement with his political views and saying that is why he will drop.
Don't even try to pull some bull **** and act like you've said all along he will drop based on medical.
media is reporting he will drop because of many factors. Number 1 reason is his medicals. Why are you so hostile. Let’s keep it about the draft and drop the political stuff please. I’ve also made it clear I don’t want my QB talking about politics period no matter which way he leans. Politics do not belong in the locker room it divides not brings people together from all back grounds. Agree or Disagree. ?
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15 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
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9 minutes ago, Lagoon Blues said:
Maybe I am paying more attention this year, but it sure seems like more rumors are flying around this draft than I can ever remember.
I think we might be looking at the beginning of the Josh Allen era at 1 Bills Drive.
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Lots of media and press are predicting Rosen is dropping to 15 or 19. I would say there is a 50 percent chance that this will happen due to his medicals. I predicted this many weeks ago. Now there are reports out predicting that this might happen. Note I had stated that Rudolph would go before Rosen if they were both on the board at the 12th pick when I started this thread. I’m sticking with that prediction. Rosen is one of the top 6 QB’s In this draft. But he might not be a good fit for every team in this draft. I have no Idea what there feeling on Rosen is They may love him or not like him based on many factors most importantly his medicals. So will see what happens but it’s possible that one of these 5 QB’s could end up being the best QB’s of this draft class. Lamar Jackson, Mason Rudolph,Luke Faulk, Kyle Lauletta or Mike White. No one knows for sure and it’s a crap shoot when it comes to what the outcome will be. I love Rudolph he checks all the boxes and he will go in Round 1 in my opinion. I will not be disappointed if the Bills draft him and use the rest of there draft capitol. I also love Lamar Jackson and I would be super excited if they got him too.
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here you go the biggest bust of all
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On 4/6/2018 at 9:39 AM, Tatonka68 said:
Mason Rudolph at #12, James Washington at #53.
totally agree with this and rosen slipping to Arizona.
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Just now, BillsFan17 said:
Why arent people bringing up Mayfields concussion history?
Why arent people bringing up that Allen's broken his right collar bone, TWICE! Also missed games this past year with an injury to HIS THROWING SHOULDER.
Because Rosen will not shut his mouth so he’s taking all the media away from all the others.
Dude can’t shut up. Talks endlessly about breaking all of Brady’s records and about fake sun gods and flat earth ? theory’s
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1 minute ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
It's you're and the only one afraid is you. Rosen's intelligence must scare you.
can’t you see i’m shaking in my boots. I’m really scared
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8 minutes ago, CNY315 said:
What's the problem?
what problem, you mean Rosen
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2 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
You and the truth do not know each other. Sad and pathetic crusading that you incessantly engage in is a long way from any kind of objective truth. Seek help.
your afraid
8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:You are a sad little man.
Thank you that was very kind of you to give me your pity
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Maybe 5 this ones dropping like a Rock.
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4 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
You are a sad little man.
Are you afraid of the truth and what is actually happening and what there saying about Rosen on national TV. I did not cause this he did. He’s a real flake and there exposing him.
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maybe you should watch this
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Rosen is sliding boys I think the pats will have a shot at him.
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Ok Rosen Fan boys. Defend your guy after watching this. He is going to drop big time
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Any question Rosen fan boys. Listen to this divided locker of course it matters
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I voted for Rosen he will surely bust big time.
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32 minutes ago, metzelaars_lives said:
So I moved to Denver, from Buffalo, in 2002 and almost immediately adopted Wyoming as my college team (pretty much because I think they have the best uniforms in sports). Anyway I have ramped up my fandom in recent years and, at this point, am a pretty diehard fan. In short, I have watched every game Josh Allen has played as a college QB. I have driven up to Laramie to see them/him play four times (three times in 2016 and once last year). Incidentally, they were 3-1 in those games and he played good to great in all of them. The win against Boise State (who was undefeated and ranked in the teens at the time) in 2016 was one of the best football games I've ever attended in my life (the greatest comeback against the Oilers obviously being #1).
So this is NOT a Josh Allen excuse thread, nor am I a Josh Allen "fanboy." And full disclosure, I probably have him as the #2 or 3 QB on my board (you can call me a Mayfield fanboy if you want). This is a thread containing FACTS for all the Biff from Tonawandas who think they suddenly know more about football than NFL scouts, analysts, GM's and coaches. Just trying to dispel a lot of disinformation floating around.
FACT CHECK:
Josh Allen "wasn't good" in college: FALSE
The 2016 Wyoming squad was loaded with offensive talent. Literally five of their key offensive players were seniors who played with NFL teams into preseason last year and four are currently on NFL rosters. That being said, it was Josh Allen's first year as a college QB. With all of those guys as juniors the previous season, they went 2-10. With Allen, they ended up 8-6 but were 8-3 before losing a meaningless game against New Mexico and then two nailbiters against San Diego State (MWC Championship game) and BYU (bowl game). He was very good. He went from an unheralded JuCo transfer to a guy being thrown around as the #1 pick in this draft halfway through his first college season. Really ask yourself, Biff, if a guy could do that without being "good." His completion percentage was lower than you might like but he had a propensity, especially in 2016, to throw the ball downfield A LOT. For perspective, Brian Hill (now on the Bengals), played most every down, was second in the nation in rushing that year and is a very elusive back. He had NINE RECEPTIONS ALL SEASON. Ask yourself, if Hill caught 40 balls and Allen's completion percentage was 66% instead of 56% in 2016, would we even be having that conversation? Even with his 56% completion percentage, he was named the 2nd team MWC QB (Brett Rypien, Mark's son, had better numbers, but few would argue Allen wasn't a more impactful player that year) as well as the MWC preseason player of the year going into 2017. Not bad for not being good, huh?
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Josh Allen had no weapons in 2017: TRUE
I was on here trying to tell anyone who would listen, prior to the 2017 season, that Josh Allen's numbers would be way down. It's easy for you, Biff, to call that an excuse but here's a little perspective: he lost his top two running backs, his top two receivers, his tight end and his center (again, four of these guys are in the NFL now). Their leading rusher went from a guy who finished 2nd in FBS to a freshman who was LITERALLY converted from a linebacker right before the season started. They struggled a ton on offense in 2017. Allen's numbers did not impress. Anyone who follows Wyoming football could've told you that would be the case. All of their skill position players were unheralded freshmen and sophomores playing their first college football games, save for two guys who played sparingly in 2016 and aren't very good (see: CJ Johnson's drop of a beautiful deep ball for a would-be TD against Iowa in week 1). So when Biff is on here telling you that Josh Allen struggled against Iowa and Oregon, well, no s***. Of course he did. And you know what, as someone who follows the program, his attitude literally could not have been better all last season. Not once did he even come remotely close to making an excuse for his numbers or complaining about the glaring lack of talent around him. Oh yeah, Wyoming was 8-3 with Josh Allen in 2017 and 0-2 without him. Oh yeah part 2, watch his three TD passes from the bowl game against Central Michigan and tell me how many PRO QB's make all three of those throws.
FACT CHECK:
There is more to Josh Allen than his "strong arm" and "big hands": TRUE
Did you know that in addition to having the best arm we've maybe ever seen coming out of college football that Josh Allen is unbelievably strong, elusive, can juke and bowl over defenders, and makes throws on the run and across his body as well as any prospect I've ever seen? Well that happens to be the case. The Cam Newton comparisons are not crazy. Watch his highlights from the first San Diego State game, the UNLV game from 2016- hell, before you go spouting off, watch a freaking highlight tape of the guy.
FACT CHECK:
The comparisons to JaMarcus Russell are beyond insulting: TRUE
Go on youtube.com and watch a video of former teammates talking about JaMarcus Russell skipping meetings, being utterly disengaged, eating copious amounts of s****y food to the point where he weighed in at 300 lbs., etc. Also guessing JaMarcus Russell didn't score a 37 on the wonderlic. Josh Allen is as good of a teammate and leader as you will find in the college football ranks.
Will all of this translate into him being a great pro? I don't know. I absolutely see the bust potential. He is still unrefined. He would be best-suited, in my opinion, going to a team like San Diego. He absolutely has a gunslinger mentality. But to all you Biff from Tonawandas out there, so sure of yourselves (God does this remind me of when half the board was mocking Carolina for taking Newton #1), I really, really hope you eat a fistful of crow and that you have the sacks to show up and admit you were wrong. An acceptable stance is, "gee I'm not buying the Allen hype but if an NFL team sees it, I gotta think they know more than I do." That's fair. But the unbelievable levels of ignorance on this board, ie. "I wouldn't take him in the fifth round; I will no longer be a Bills fan if they take him, etc"... dude just give it a rest already. PLEASE. I am so over it. At this point, I am so sick of hearing from the naysayers that I will be rooting for Josh Allen no matter who he gets drafted by, and that includes the Jets. Not the Dolphins though.
Go Bills!
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Mike Silver: Back2Campus with Josh Rosen
in The Stadium Wall Archives
Posted · Edited by Thurmanator 12074
Good for josh. But it’s not good for trying to bring a locker room together with 52 different backgrounds. Is he going into the NFL to play football and be a leader or is he more interested in Instagram, Snapchat, Twitter and Youtube. Is he a good player yes he is will he fit in with every team probably not.