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    New Bills WR. Former Lion Quintez Cephus

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    2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    They have spent too much on their Dline. That is what it comes down to. In terms of dollars and draft capital. Beane has made 21 picks on the first two days of the draft in his reign. The breakdown is:

     

    QB - 1

    RB - 3

    TE - 2

    WR - 1

    OL - 3

    DL - 6

    LB - 3

    DB - 2

     

    There are only two numbers that stand out as egregious there to me - it is 1 receiver and 6 DL. Everything else in terms of resource allocation feels within the normal bounds of expectation for someone trying to build and maintain a strong roster over 7 seasons (probably 1 RB too many as well, but again not egregious). And then you add to it: Star, Jefferson, Butler, Addison, Trent Murphy, Daquan, Settle, Jordan Phillips, Ford, Austin Johnson..... and that is only the higher profile guys. Which other position has had so many reasonable established FA vets thrown at it in his time as GM? And people will say "ah that's McDermott's fault it is the rotation.... and I buy that to a point but I crunched the numbers after last season, will dig them out again, and other than KC (where 3 guys played 70%) the top 7 or 8 teams in the league were all broadly in line with the Bills on Dline rotations. The difference is they were almost all using one or two really low investment guys as part of it. We consistently have high picks and high dollars invested up there. And you don't need to take the tea leaves in any event. Just listen to Beane speak. He has said countless times he "makes no apologies" for investing there. It is just how he believes in building. 

     

     

    You know what I'm going to say to this post.

     

     

    3 minutes ago, NewEra said:

    do you think WR is more important than DL in terms of winning championships?  
     

     

     

    In this iteration of the NFL? Absolutely.

     

    Rd 2, Pick 60: DB Cole Bishop, Utah

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    3 minutes ago, eball said:

     

    This is such an immature comment.  I don’t know where to start, junior, but I’ll try.

     

    The GM is responsible for acquiring players.  The GM knows who the HC and coordinators are, and what type of players are best suited for their systems and the team culture.  The GM then builds the roster using that knowledge, combined with the skill of the scouting staff.

     

    It would be dumb to simply “pick good players” (see:  Doug Whaley) without considering how they fit into the offensive and defensive systems.

     

    Understand now?

     

    Right, it's also why they have the offensive draft philosophy they do, because McDermott wants ball control.

     

    Junior.

     

    What's the point of this team's philosophy?

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    6 minutes ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

    Edit: BuffaloBillyG posed pretty much my answer at the same time

     

    Sweats kind of beat me to the punch. Teams with big arm quarterbacks are seeing a lot of cover 2/ 2 deep defensive shells and are very limited on throwing the long ball..think Mahommes was limited on throwing the long ball last year as well.

    So what's the solution? A good run game..mismatch tight end...and big playmaking receivers that have good RAC...

    Pretty obvious why Beane went the direction he did based on this philosophy. 

    Some really reasonable answers in this thread.

     

     

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    What's the point of this team's philosophy?

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    Posted · Edited by Pine Barrens Mafia

    You have a QB that's a Maserati. He's built for bombs away. But instead of building your offense for that, you build it for plodding, 10 yards at a time max, 10 minute drive offense. So I ask, what is the point?

     

    What's the point of having a guy who's designed by nature to bomb the football deep and whose weakness is dink and dunk stuck in an offensive scheme that is built to do just that?

     

    Why not offload him for someone who's better suited for that kind of thing if you refuse to play to his strengths? That's what I can't wrap my head around. It makes no sense.

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    New Bills WR. Former Lion Quintez Cephus

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    17 hours ago, GoBills808 said:

    Think this is the source of most of my frustration

     

    It wasn't a given that we would improve at those positions through the draft but they didn't even try

    One more time for everyone in the forum:

     

    BEANE CANNOT SCOUT RECEIVERS.

     

    if you're looking for him to do so, it's like looking for a zebra to have spots not stripes 

    Beane: "This team is in transition"

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    2 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    Seriously, people should go and look at the guys Beane learned his trade under. It isn't McDermott's influence that he drafts loads of DL and LBs and RBs and almost no WRs. That is who Carolina were when he was in that front office moving through the ranks. 

    Then he's got to go. But my beef goes deeper. I feel like they should have done more in the cutting department. Still carrying some really bad contracts.

    Beane: "This team is in transition"

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    8 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

    This quote from Beane defines the entire draft strategy:

     

    He is giving it to us straight. The Bills are in a rebuild year. So he went for all team captains. Guys that interviewed well. Guys that he believes set a new foundation of leadership in the building. He hunted for short term needs that fit the singular character profile he and McDermott feel comfortable with, at the expense of talent at premium positions. And he is telling the fanbase to temper our expectations without coming right out and saying it.

     

    I'm not gonna grade a draft until we see how all the players turn out, but the overall philosophy shown this weekend is deflating and uninspiring.

    If he knew this, then he failed in the primary task in the rebuild 

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    Logic's Buffalo Bills Draft Review -- The more things change, the more they stay the same

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    Just now, VW82 said:

    As I laid out in my previous post, we had many more needs than just WR. We came out of it with multiple starters, depth pieces, and prospects in a year where we were desperate for bodies. It's a win in every way but through the receiver lens. 

    Which is arguably the most important lens. This offense is not going to be good and I think the defense won't be great either 

    Logic's Buffalo Bills Draft Review -- The more things change, the more they stay the same

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    9 minutes ago, Logic said:


    Right now, I agree with you. I think the Bills are further from Super Bowl contention right now than they were at season's end. Some of that was bound to happen due to salary cap implications and aging players that left, but...I can't help but agree. You either step forward, backward, or stand pat in a given offseason. At BEST, I feel the Bills stood pat, but I think it's more likely that they took a step back.

    And the shame is this, IMO:

     

    1) They knew it would be but

    2) They don't want to admit it publicly AND

    3) They wasted an opportunity to make this team much stronger next year by taking more drastic action this year 

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    Coleman = Benjamin, Davis = Moss - Beane players

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    2 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

    And I don't get it.

    I do.

     

    It's about ceilings and floors. After taking the ultimate low-floor, high-ceiling QB in Josh Allen, just about every other player the Bills have drafted under beane are high-floor, low-ceiling guys. Low risk. "Speed" players often carry an element of risk that mudders don't.

     

    It's smart if you want to improve your job longevity, but not smart if you want to try and win a championship.

     

    OFC Beane could prove me wrong with some kind of blockbuster trade after the draft, but I ain't holding my breath.

     

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