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I've been saying this since the beginning of the year. Shady has and NEVER WILL BE a between the tackles / every down running back. Whenever he does well its on sweeps / screens / slot crossing routes or anything that gets him the ball in space. He has NEVER been a ground and pound except once in a blue moon in order to keep a defense honest. I have NEVER understood why Dabol kept on "scripting" our first three plays as "shady up the middle" X 2 + "third and long pass" = "3 and out". It was especially confounding once we signed Chris Ivory and Marcus Murphy decided to show up. Here we have two backs that exceed at Shady's weekness and instead of USING them up the middle we just keep pounding shady instead. When Shady was injured last game my brother and I wooped for joy. Finally Dabol was going to be forced to use his RB's as they were meant to be used.
Hopefully if / when Shady comes back he will realize that he has a stable of running backs that each have a "unique set of skills" and use them appropriately. It's okay to throw in a "trick" play now and then but throwing Shady at a 9 man box over and over isn't a trick. Its idiocy.5 minutes ago, Chuck Wagon said:Shady + 4th round pick
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Le'Veon + 6th round pick
Keep shady. Just start using him appropriately.
5 minutes ago, No Place To Hyde said:I noticed a few times Daboll had Murphy out there at the same time as Ivory. Would love to see that continue only with Shady and Ivory. Would give the option to motion Shady out wide as well to help with the WR issues on this team.
Actually I would rather it with Shady / Murphy. I've been calling for two HB sets since week 1 and IMO Murphy is better than Ivory to this point.
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Really all I want from this week is the same I wanted from last week. A step forward. They went from rock bottom to a small step above rock bottom and now I am looking for yet another step up. Being as bad as we are I can only ask that they keep developing and putting the pieces together and making small strides forward. I will be more concerned with W's next year
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1 hour ago, CBend said:
You're permitted a "small clutch bag approximately the size of a hand (4.5” x 6.5”), with or without a handle or strap." Unsure how large the coin purse was but seems like it's within the restrictions. https://www.buffalobills.com/stadium/gate-entry-and-permitted-items
Lines are typically very long at the opener. We usually make sure we get there by noon to ensure we see kickoff.
I was going to post exactly this. I can't imagine a change purse being bigger than this......seems odd. Also I came in at 12:25 at gate 2 and had about a 3 minute wait time to get in. The line to sing up for DD was about 10 minutes. They allowed us to bring in 5 bottles of water because of how hot it was. All in all a good experience. Bad game, good experience. Sorry yours wasn't.
24 minutes ago, mrags said:So just to be clear and get everything straight.
You are mad because:
-you waited to walk into the stadium when 60k other fans did and expected to be able to just stroll right in without a wait.
-you failed to read the rules and got mad at some security guard who probabaly was 22 years old an makes $12/hr who was just doing his job. And I highly doubt he said “oh wait, let me call the Pegula, or the President” sounds like you had 2 too many drinks and are misremembering things honestly. I’ve never seen any of the security even say anything to anyone that wasn’t being a belligerent prick.
-you were even more mad at your own procrastination by being late into the game and then the additional 60k people that just got in were also getting in line for a beer at the same time.
Here’s some advice. Walk into the stadium at 1210. Beat everyone else into the line and stop chugging beers in the parking lot. Get into the stadium. Find your seat. Hit the head. Casually walk to the beer line with nobody else there. Get comfortable in your seats and watch the end of the warm ups. And for Christ’s sake, the Home Opener is always, always, always the worst game to get through the gates. Leave 10 minutes earlier.
Oh, and I also belive you are misremembering what time you walked into the stadium. Because I didn’t even leave Hammers lot until 12:15. The 5 minute walk to the stadium, there was probably 2 people in line ahead of us. Then we went to the head. Then we got to the line and got some ice cold waters. Then we made it to our seats. And the team was still warming up and there was 28 minutes until game time. When you say you tried to get in at 12:15, did you mean that’s the time you parked your car all the way down Abbott past Kettles and you had to walk your way to the stadium and stopped at 2 peoples tailgates on your way there?
I’ve had season tickets since 2006 and only one time I’ve experienced what you did yesterday. And thy was when a friend was trying to stay in the lots until 1230 at the opener. And yes, we missed about 5 minutes of the game because of it. But that is our own faults.
This is my first year with season tickets and I have only been to the 2 pre-season and yesterdays game....but so far my experience mirrors your own. It's a bit difficult to find times where you can eat or drink without missing some of the game but thats why we bring snacks in our clear bag
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Sadly, every year the Pats pick up a player from our cut list. Some turn out and some don't but all of them give BB a heads up on whats going on behind closed doors. Its a smart move even if Coleman sees 0 action.
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1 hour ago, LeGOATski said:
I know it sounds super cliche, but I think it definitely applies here. The offense needs a spark, so play the hot hands.
1) Allen - the hot hand by default because Peterman is super cold. He's tundra terrible. I think it's time to roll with the #7 pick for the rest of the season, for better or worse. Let him learn on the job.
Positive things I saw: kept his composure under pressure, moved well in the pocket to buy time, took what the defense gave him and ran well, threw some very accurate darts and gave his receivers a chance to make plays.
2) Murphy - the dude is playing with tons of confidence right now. I'd like to see him used more in the passing game on delayed underneath routes and in the slot. Motion him around. Keep him on punt return duty, too, obviously.
3) Croom - he showed reliable hands on Sunday. Something that can't be said for most of the other receivers. Two TE sets with Clay and Croom? Yes, please. Use them to clear out the middle for the underneath routes to Shady/Murphy, too.
Anyone else you'd like to see get more action?
Finally. A thread that seems to get it. For the most part I keep on pushing the Murphy propaganda because the kid just keeps on lighting things up. He should at LEAST be put in there in some 1 - 10 situations. Put him in a few times WITHOUT McCoy, run him up the middle and watch him gouge the d-line for 3 - 5 yards a pop. THEN, put him in with McCoy...motion McCoy or him...move them around a bit....the defense won't know who to key in on. They have a serious player in Murphy and I can't figure out why they didn't start the year using combinations of backs. Before the 4th quarter the only time they put Ivory or Murphy in was to pass block....and EVERY time they put McCoy in it was an up the middle run play.....predictable as hell. I was literally calling the plays from my couch before they happened.
11 minutes ago, matter2003 said:Murphy is the beneficary many times of long down and distances on 2nd and 3rd down when the D is playing coverage and will happily give up a 8 or 9 yard run. Im not saying he hasnt been good but you need to know WHY is looking better than McCoy on 1st downs.
I don't wholly disagree with you here. It's really just guess work though since they never TRIED putting Murphy, our best hard hitting / up the middle guy, in on first down up-the-middle runs. Instead they took CJ Spiller 2.0 on a rainy day behind a porous o-line and told him to run it into the big group of guys. I wonder why he wasn't successful. It's a mystery
Count the men in the box.
https://www.buffalobills.com/video/bills-rb-marcus-murphy-picks-up-22-yards
https://www.buffalobills.com/video/marcus-murphy-goes-up-the-middle-on-7-yard-td-runSeeing a pattern? He sees the holes before they even develop and hits them hard and fast. He does the same thing on returns. Why he is so successful. Watch the last video posted here at 27 seconds....guy in his face before he has the ball. SPIN MOVE MADDEN STYLE....+ 4 yards.
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off topic....but look at this guys arms. I am feeling manly jealousy
Also, he is stating the size of my......boomstick
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Just now, bmur66 said:
You are very observant. I have no idea. LOL
No wonders they went out of business. They thought their customer service was EXCELLENT because nobody ever called to complain. Lo and Behold nobody knew what number to call ;).
1 minute ago, PolishPrince said:curious where THEY get the animations from
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Just now, PolishPrince said:
Either works perfect
where do you guys get all these JA animations?
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2 minutes ago, bmur66 said:
LOOK!
Why is the kmart customer service number missing a number?
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8 minutes ago, 26CornerBlitz said:
To be fair, with the WR and RB stats here...a lot of them didn't see action till the end of the game when the Ravens were putting their second stringers in.
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9 hours ago, Circlethewagon8404 said:
We traded the wrong QB. We should've kept AJM. I thought he looked better than freaking Nate. Plus he's been around the league a little longer. Damn this regime for keeping Nate.
He didn't look better than Nate.....but it seems that Nate only looks good in shorts and the pre-season. ?♂️ Some people tried telling me this....but I drank the kool-aid. Now I am regretting it :\. Put Allen out there till he puts up a worse performance....then put McCoy out there....didn't he play QB in pee-wee or something?
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BTW guys. Try to find all the plays of Marcus Murphy in the pre-season. They stacked the box on him a couple of times and he STILL made positive plays....just sayin ;). Put in McCoy and Murphy / Ivory in a pro set and you never will know where it's going or who is getting it if you do things right. Instead every team knows that if its McCoy you just plug all the holes / set the edge and get a Tackle for a loss.
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5 minutes ago, Jerome007 said:
You and I have the EXACT point of view on this.
And now with Ivory and Murphy, the Bills have alternatives for those early runs down the middle. I'm not one of the "Shady is 30 so over-the-hill" guys, but what prevents saving him for his strengths, and using others to "pound the middle" early? (If they don't get tackled at the handoff...)
How dare we share an opinion? We must be at each others throats and disagree on everything! The sky is falling!!
Seriously though, I completely agree. Did you notice in pre-season though when Murphy was given the ball with a defender in his face on MULTIPLE plays and he just ripped away from them, did an amazing spin move out of madden or bull rushed them down for positive yardage? The kid is going to be great. In the mean time he can at least be used for something other than pass protection ?
Is it bad to hope that McCoy's inevitable injury comes sooner than later so we can stop trying to pigeon-hole him into something he isn't and suffer for it? How many 2nd and > 10 did we have because we were like "look....9 men in the box.....you know what McCoy is REALLY good at?...running up the middle against 9 guys." Rinse wash and repeat every first down. "hey look...its 2nd and 12....we have McCoy in. They will never see it coming. RUN HIM UP THE MIDDLE!". You don't need to become predictable to the point that every time McCoy is on the field you know its a screen and every time the others are in you know its a run up the middle....but you can try something new. Definition of insanity, trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results ;).-
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3 minutes ago, CuddyDark said:
With TT teams didn't attack the middle because he would escape. Without TT teams attack the middle because the QB can't escape. Both of these things directly effect Shady.
You are really set on bringing this thread back to "TT" arent you? :P. I don't disagree. TT did two things right. He protected the ball and scrambled with the best of them. Sadly that was all he did right and it was marginally enough to slide into a playoff spot DESPITE him, not because of him. To be fair, I loved him when he won the job and his first season. He had GREAT accuracy and seemed to be our next franchise QB. Then something happened and all his deep accuracy disappeared and he started playing scared.
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1 minute ago, Jerome007 said:
Did you read that superb post by Bills4Ever4Life? Nope, the Bills can't pound it up the gut with that OLine! But McCoy is a sweep, small pass, lined-up as WR nightmare! And use the other two, CI in particular, to ram it up the gut and at the very least soften up those defenders for up-the-middle runs by McCoy in the second half. Nothing prevents from using Shady AND another running back at the same time. Get creative dammit. I thought Daboll was!
Thank you Jerome007. I was starting to feel like my point was lost.
To everyone else: First off, I get that we have SOOOO many other issues that making one adjustment wouldn't have won us that game. What I AM saying is that for the past two years we have take LeSean McCoy and used him as an every down / up the middle runner with a few screens now and then. This is NOT his game and we need to use the talent behind him to improve our running attack. We need to be using our stable instead of having three RB's, running one of them into the ground doing EVERYTHING and then only putting our other two in when he is hurt or they are needed for blitz pickup.-
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1 minute ago, HeHateMe said:
Every run play is a holding call.
That's funny because my brother and I kept on joking about how they only flag LeSean McCoy. Every positive play we were like "wait....where is the flag...McCoy got yards....oh wait there it is ;)". I could turn it into a drinking game at this point.
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3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said:
OL can’t block so good luck with that stable
OL didn't block well for murphy in the pre-season games either. What did he do? Made 2 - 3 guys miss. Pushed the pile 5 yeards. Turned negative plays into 2 - 3 yard gains by hitting a whole with explosiveness. I'd like to see if it was just him playing against vanilla defenses and less talent or if he really has it. Either way, mcCoy up the middle is ALWAYS a bad idea....just always. Bad...don't do it
1 minute ago, CuddyDark said:Teams will run blitz all season. I don't know why people don't understand the run game we had was 50% Tyrod. Without a threat from the QB there will be on running game. At least not the way we remember it.
I agree. Hoping Allen can change that a bit. He is a pretty good scrambler (no TT). Grasping at straws here
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So, we have 3 running backs in our RB "stable".
McCoy who is a GREAT pass catcher / make a guys miss / bubble screen them to death RB with the occasional 20 yard race to the edge for a 4 yard gain. He has breakout ability in open space.
Chris Ivory is "meh" but in the end he is just a hard runner that isn't that quick but will bowl over a few guys for a few extra yards and is a good "change of pace" back.
Marcus Murphy.....man this kid is good. It's his vision. He sees the holes before they are there and hits them at top speed. He also has the strength to push the pile.
In the end we have 3 RB's with slightly different skill sets but all I saw for the first 3 quarters of the game was "LeSean McCoy runs it up the middle" and was "somehow" stopped by the 9 guys they had stacked in the box. NSS. Explain to me why we didn't have a healthy dose of MM and CI up the middle while allowing LM do what he does best? Why is it that every OC we have had since we got McCoy seems to think he is an every down "up the middle" running back? Why is it that when its raining and our main RB (who LIVES on the cut that he can't possibly make on the wet ground) keeps on being given the ball and getting blown up?
We have a stable of running backs and we need to start using them and adapting plays to their strengths instead of trying to use LeSean McCoy like he is Marshawn Lynch or Adrian Peterson.
On a final note, I would REALLY like to see Marcus Murphy against a first string defense. He is gold every time he touches the ball and I want to know if its Nathan Peterman Syndrome or not ;).-
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22 hours ago, SDS said:
I get the emails, so they were read.
What I need now is a solution on the front page that allows hiding and/or sorting of posts based on category (with the idea that subscription sites could be hidden or separated from the loop.
That seems more like a backend issue. I am more than happy to help with that but it would require access to the backend code :P. It's not like CSS / HTML that I can cook up on the fly
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14 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
You’re delusional if you think that NP interception was not his fault. It was late, high and behind Ivory, it was literally at least 75% NP fault. And his first pass against Cleveland was a dropped pick 6.
Heck even pro football focus understands that the interception wasn't his fault. https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-refocused-2018-panthers-28-bills-23. I'm sick of posting videos / photos that show the ball was BARELY behind him, NOT LATE, and maybe a few inches high. Ivory didn't have to slow down, turn around or otherwise break stride but instead just had to put his hands up and it bounced right off of them. THIS IS NOT HIS FAULT.
QuoteAnd stop it about playing against the 1’s, he didn’t really. Not everyone was out there for Car and it was literally first drive of first game of preseason against a vanilla D that’s not remotely close to what he will ever face in a game.
I'll admit that he didn't play against a game plan but it was anything but vanilla (multiple blitzes with overloads etc....watch cover1.net) and he did a good job of getting out quick.
QuotePraise NP for his overall preseason, but there are a lot of over exaggeration comments floating around. NP never once faced the kind of defensive pressure AJM last week and Allen this week faced. I mean our OL is worst in the NFL yet people were making delusional comments after Carolina about it being solid...why, because it wasn’t a real defensive effort or scheme they were facing.
Incorrect. Do you want to know why NP didn't face the same pressure AJM has? Time to Release. NP has had a TTR or less than 2 seconds for 90% of his throws. Also, Nathan Peterman moves the offense at a MUCH quicker pace. He gets the team to the line quicker, gets the plays off quicker. In fact he gets them off an average of 10 seconds faster than AJM did and last game it wasn't even close. Keeping the defense on its heals with a fast paced offense that keeps throwing dinks and dunks for 5 - 10 yards with some breaking out for more now and then is EXACTLY how the Patriots have destroyed so many people for so long. Is NP the next Tom Brady? lol hell no but he takes what Brady does well and replicates it to a certain extent. THIS is why it LOOKS like NP isn't getting pressure....because any oline can hold a block for 1 second. It's the reason the running backs look better with NP under center. They are so afraid of the quick plays and so hard on their heals that they don't go throwing 8 in the box and overloading the run. Simple fact is, Nathan Peterman HAS faced some of the same defenders as AJM and with WORSE oline in place at times and he STILL made plays. Allen has a higher ceiling but the current status has NP well above JA.
QuoteAnd outside KBs TD, the other he threw were a broken play and an easy walk in...All against backups.
Truth is: Whoever starts is going to have a hard time this year behind this OL, it’s that bad and NP has yet to have to REALLY play behind it yet.
and who drove the team all the way down the field to allow the easy walk in? Also, NP HAS played behind that bad oline and im sorry but the Panthers had ALL their starters in and were in fact blowing by the oline....but by the time they got to NP the ball was out. NP made our o-line look good and good QB's do that.
I get what you're saying. You have your opinion. I have watched all the games over and over. I have seen them live and on replay....I have done my due diligence and from what I have seen, Peterman is our man for now. Lucky for you I am not the coaching staff. I will continue to have my educated opinion and I will nod and shake my head to whomever they decide to give the start because they see SOOOO much more than I get to. Their decision will be much more educated than mine. I'm done arguing with someone who has obviously given up on Peterman after his one poor debut. It's funny because I had too.....but then I saw him play this off-season and came to rational conclusions. Why can't you? -
14 hours ago, PlayoffsPlease said:
Why are you so self involved that you think the phrase "people act like" is specific to you? Peterman is awful. He will be awful. If he starts, he is the worst starting QB in the NFL.
I'm not self involved. Maybe a bit self CENTERED ;)....but in honesty you were directly replying to my post so it makes sense that you were lumping me in with that crowd.
As to Peterman being awful and being the worst starting QB in the NFL....you obviously have your opinion. It's barely grounded in reality and very heavily relies on your own personal feelings but you are allowed to have it. At this point I will just agree to disagree and move forward. -
1 hour ago, T master said:
Sorry i don't usually like to be a hater & still don't think i am being a "hater" per say but Juan Castillo has never really done any thing for me or relevant in the NFL ! Oh he did get SB ring with the Ravens because they brought him on as a irrelevant assistants assistant near the end of the year they won the SB that's the reason why he has a SB ring but other than that & that he has a bunch of experience at coaching he really hasn't proven he's a winning coach at his chosen trade !
I never did like the choice of him by McD because i remember the debacle in Philly with Andy Reid when he got fired from there because of changing him from one coaching position to another . Here's some old reading material about all that & notice who Castillo took over in place of !!
https://philly.sbnation.com/2012/10/17/3517294/revisiting-the-juan-castillo-hiring
I think he is a good person kind of like the Tyrod thing ! A great person, great work ethic, good leader, but when it comes to results it just doesn't come to be & if last years tape & this years 2 preseason games, the one AJ started & then this one with Allen starting shows anything then it could be time to move on already !
Sure i know you all will say what every one else is saying about the loss of Wood & Incognito that the O line is in flux but a good coach can at the very least see the strengths of the players he has & devise something that looks better than what was seen on the field for the start of the last 2 preseason games !
Also with the Rookie talent they have gotten in the draft & the fact that no one on the team can see that Ducasse & Mills are average at best & that Castillo was more than likely one that wants to keep Ducasse in the line up as a starter sends a huge red flag to me ! Yes i am only a fan but I've seen Ducasse & read other so called experts say he is past his prime & it shows !
Mills has been talked about as being such for 2 yrs & he's still a starter so if he can't see that weakness how can things get any better ?
It all starts up front & on both sides of the ball & we saw the difference in the Bills D when it went from Shwartz to Rex & when they changed & brought Kromer in to be the O line coach, so coaching is HUGE !!
IMHO this guy (Castillo) ain't getting it done & I hope McBean sees it sooner rather than later !! If not it could be a short honeymoon !!
Agreed. Also, he is featured in the first "Bills embedded" and not to be offensive but he sounded dumb as a rock. Made absolutely no sense and filled the gaps with "no duh" statements like "the stronger man wins". He honestly sounded a bit dimwitted and his o-line production seems to be mirroring his mental capacity.
Check out 8:43:
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3 minutes ago, cd1 said:
Peterman is NOT the most athletic QB on the team.
However, Peterman got in and out of the huddle quicker which in turn gave him more time to read the defense and make adjustments prior to the snap PLUS got the ball out of his hands much quicker than Josh Allen yesterday.
When you have an O Line that is a sieve, you NEED to get rid of the ball ASAP.
If you didn't say it I was going to. NP made our o-line seem decent whether he was with the starters or the backups. Not because he was an amazing scrambling QB but because he got rid of the ball before needing to scramble. To be fair, he also scrambled decently as well a few times.
Shady and the Running Backs moving forward
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You make a good point. They just need to sub Murphy in more often. The kid really will be our future. He is 3 years younger than both Ivory and Shady and he needs the ball more. I would be okay if they just kept on rotating all three in or focused on one or two of them depending on the game plan each week (like the patriots do).