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DCTom here is the latest from my local enviro lunatics....They are something else LOL Pope is the current Alderman... "Funny thing is, the 10th Ward, that's right, our cluster of communities has the highest cancer rate in the midwest--in the entire midwest, the 10th Ward (60633, 60617, 60647) has the highest cancer rate. Although this is not an issue that can be laid entirely at the feet of Pope, the manufacturing industry has been dead in the United States because INVESTORS WANT GREATER PROFITS THROUGH EXPORTING MANUFACTURING, and as industry has been collapsing since the 1950's--every alderman had opportunities to invite economic potential to the south east side. Instead each and every one of them made deals with unions, (ERV), investors (JB) and the machine (Pope) to perpetuate the 10th Ward as a sacrifice zone. Remember our ancestors moved into the region, accepting the risks, to make life better for their children. As the medium for upwards economic mobility imploded, NONE of our representatives fought for a piece of what is coming. Local Agriculture (produce, hemp, and poultry) is emerging as a new industry --and NOW....more than a year after it was suggested, Pope reaches out to Openlands and the Healthy Schools Campaign. So, while Pope wants to reach out to Openlands for Healthy Communities in 60633, he supports KCBX in 60617. He's as fricking fraud that, if he had the best interest in mind, would have acted BEFORE Gary Comer and Lane Tech."

LOL! They moved into the area....I really wish they would move out.

Another local enviro posted this on the neighborhood page....Thoughts??? "Although there are multiple variables to consider, this is a highly informal survey: 10th Ward Residents, my professor challenged me to a test, and this is an informal survey: Environmental Justice includes a component of reparations. Should you, as a resident of the 10th Ward, be offered a choice between structural reparations--wherein local corporations who are known to contaminate the environment were to be legally compelled to make corrective (and costly changes), or financial reparations --wherein you were to receive $20,000 just to agree to "live with it:, which would you, as a resident of the tenth ward choose? (As a lifelong resident of the East Side, I already proposed what I believe the results would be, but...let's find out)."

This lady is running for Alderman and wants to shut down a local refinery....These folks are something else. Environmental racism?? 50 years ago the entire area was overwhelmingly white (Polish, Irish, Greek, & Italian immigrants) working in the steel mills & the pollution was 100 times worse.... http://priceofoil.org/2014/10/16/subsidy-spotlight-tar-sands-expansion/

I forgot to add the man tasered had a warrant out for his arrest on an unrelated case. And supposedly the city of Hammond has settled the civil suit but I have not been able to verify that...

Hammond, Indiana police taser uncooperative man. A civil lawsuit has been file. Link is below. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-hammond-police-taser-story.html As with most of these incident race becomes the focus. Here is a different take on this issue Who is right?

Thanks for the replies.... @ DCTom most people in my area are not going to put up $15k for this. They will definitely be taking a pass once they hear that.

I don't really know a lot about this but came across this today. Is this a good deal or am I missing something? Are we not being told all the details? http://chicago.everyblock.com/improvement/jul31-solar-power-installation-discounts-available-6288065/

Former Senator George McGovern sure pushed a socialist agenda then he left politics and went into business....

Lets see who gets the blame for this one........ http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/03/toledo-toxins-water/13539145/

I read an article in the National Review that Tom Steyer made his fortune investing on coal. Apparently he cashed out and has decided coal is just awful and is now waging a war on in......

http://setaskforce.org/ http://setaskforce.blogspot.com/ https://www.facebook.com/setaskforce https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fight-petcoke-chicago/568777166541722 The fight petcoke Chicago page is run by SOAR (steelworkers organization of active retirees). Most of their networking and fear mongering is done on facebook. They take pictures and post them. They are also attacking the railroad industry because they reactivated a rail line to move petcoke by rail cars. The biggest villains of them all though are the evil Koch Brothers. These people are really nuts.

Supposedly there is a new movie out The Koch Brothers exposed 2014....our local environemtal morons are trying to get as many locals as possible to there environmental task force office to view this movie. Anyone have a chance to see it? Here is a few comments from the enviros webpage........... "The film starts out with a section on the FIGHT TO SAVE PUBLIC EDUCATION--we know all about that here in Chicago. BUT who knew that the KOCH BROTHERS have spent MILLIONS on UNDOING DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATION ON LOCAL SCHOOL BOARDS SO WE CAN RETURN TO SEGREGATED SCHOOLS, where children LOSE the ability to LEARN at an equal pace AND TO LEARN FROM EACH OTHER!!" " FILM ALSO SHOWS: Another issue KOCH BROTHERS are funding with MILLIONS OF DOLLARS is the FIGHT AGAINST THE MINIMUM WAGE. ...THAT'S RIGHT...AGAINST IT...I MEAN TO GET RID OF THE MINIMUM WAGE REQUIREMENT AT ALL. FOR YEARS I DID BUDGETS FOR LOW-INCOME BANKRUPTCY CLIENTS...on what people make on minimum wage you can hardly afford more than a MONTHLY: $450 in rent; $350 for a car payment, $50 for car insurance, $50 for clothes (no matter how many people in the family) no more than $50 for phones; no more than $75 for medical and then you have about $400 left for food (for how many people?' ..

Yes he was. At one time he was organizing out of work steel workers in the area and nothing ever really came of it. The steel mills on the southeast of Chicago all closed up. The remaining steel mills in the area operate over the state line in Indiana which has a more business friendly tax structure. The area community organizer today are mostly made up of environmental radicals demanding environmental justice. The area is around the river used to be an industrial power but today lot of the land sits vacant. Any time an industrial company tries to open up they are met by these community organizers with much resistance. They used there contacts in the media to slam the companies as poisoning the air and water in the area. They run around with petitions trying to get signatures and go all to frighten the residents. The have lobbied the states attorney general to file an environmental lawsuit against the Koch brothers company KCBX who operates a piece of land in the area. The Koch Brothers have spent about 30 million dollars upgrading their property. They have also attacked the railroad for transporting petroleum coke as well and want the trains to be stopped. The sad part is that the area could actually gain some good paying industrial jobs but they work hard to stop it. They are willing to accept low paying service sector jobs and as DCTom pointed out they are trying to shake down the developers to get a piece of he pie.

Sorry about that. I just linked the article about the development. The so called neighborhood community activists want a community benefits agreement. I looked it up because I never heard of such an agreement. It says a CBA is "A Community Benefits Agreement (CBA) is a project-specific agreement between a developer and a broad community coalition that details the project’s contributions to the community and ensures community support for the project. Addressing a range of community issues, properly structured CBAs are legally binding and directly enforceable by the signatories. In some cases, the community benefits terms from a CBA may be incorporated into an agreement between the local government and the developer, such as a development agreement or lease. That arrangement gives the local government the power to enforce the community benefits terms" I was curious if anyone else have heard of these? Were they good or bad? Sounds like a bunch of baloney to me.

Are Community Benefits Agreement bad? One of the old steel mill sites in town has been set to be redeveloped. Its a huge piece of land near the lake like 600 acres. A big grocery chain has just signed on to be the first business to begin construction. There is even a big pitch by the developers to land the Obama library on the site along with a school, housing, boat slips, ect. The neighborhood community organizers are demanding a community benefits agreement. There has to be a downside to this?? http://www.suntimes.com/business/28564026-420/marianos-to-announce-it-will-build-store-on-former-us-steel-site.html#.U74POECCUrF

No not at all unreasonable. Outside of Chrome that field for the Preakness wasn't stacked with a bunch of world beaters, right? Clement is a good trainer could have easily had Tonalist prepared for that race despite not having run since Feb 22. If anything he watchd the Derby closely and figured if Chrome is that good and wins our best shot to beat him would be Belmont so in my opinion he took the opportunist route. Thats horse racing go to the gate enough times someone is going to beat you. I agree. Even if he won the TC I would not have ranked he greatest all time. I think we both have seen what we would consider better horses in previous years. I was just pointing out that Espinoza is not wrong in saying that the TC task is slightly more difficult today. I think you get my point. All these performance enhancing drugs and uses of them have gotten more sufisticated and with the amount of money thats on the line more and more are willing to push the envelope to gain that edge. I agree Cielo should have ran in the Belmont just as Tonalist should have. I think Tonalist should have run in the Preakness but he choose not to, and in my opinion they did not want to tackle Chrome just yet. There was no big horse missing from ther 1982 Belmont, Cielo beat who was in front of him and did it easily. The Belmont is becoming meaningless in my opinion because horses simply aren’t asked to run 1 1/2 miles anymore,except at the Belmont. It is the only Grade 1 stakes race in America which goes that long. Plus with the breed changing the way it has the race could begin to lose its luster especially if we do not have a horse that attempting to win the TC. I actually believe Baffert when he says if Silver Charm had seen Touch Gold he would have dug in and possibly held him off. I would also like to see it done again but the chances are really slim for a number of reason we have discussed. I also do not want to see a watered down winner. Its to bad they can not make the TC a series of races, I dont believe there would be a shortage of horses entering. I believe you are correct that a European horse is likely to accomplish the feat before one bred here.

Why do you think they didn't race in the Preakness? He was being pointed towards the derby and sickness caused him to not be eligible. You have a top caliber horse who you had every intent of racing in the big ones. They could have easily skipped The Peter Pan on May 10th and entered the Preakness on May 17th. That's the article I was referring to. I have no problem if you take Espinoza comments with a grain of salt. I take took them at face value. He knows a lot has changed from years past going into these 3 races. No I was not Insinuating Secretariat, Seattle Slew and Affirmed were juiced. But we all know that trainers pushing the envelope when it comes to these races is and has been a big problem from milk-shaking, blood doping, and use of epogen to gain an unfair edge. No knock on Woody. He made a gutsy call to run Cielo. I still believe that he was a pretty fresh horses not having to mix it up in the derby and preakness. Cielo was a very nice horse and showed a ton of promise as a 2 year old. He was probably the most talented horse that year. Not to knock his Belmont win but no one was at all excited about that field, some considered it to be a weak field. I am not advocating for Coburns plan because its not going to work. You laid out plenty of reason's why. Many which I agree with. I also agree the whole triple crown thing is over blown. The grand daddy of them all is the Kentucky Derby and Chrome won that convincingly. He followed that up with a nice win the Preakness. I think he should have shut him down at that point. Why risk the health of your horse for a some what meaningless Belmont? He came out of the Preakness nice and healthy. There focus should have been on the Breeders Cup going forward. The Belmont is an anomaly with today's horses being bred for speed.

People may say the Triple Crown "has always been that way". But in actuality with today's advancements in breeding, conditioning and veterinary medicine standards, the competition is far more fit and race ready to upset a horse that has been grinding it out during the previous five weeks. So yes only a super, super, super horse would be able to overcome this disadvantage. Until then the opportunist will continue to be the spoiler unless the all or nothing (qualify with points for all events) is instituted. People are saying California Chrome didn't have it, have it to do what? Beat 8 horses who were somewhere sleeping while he was out running? Horse racing isn't only about the money! Nor is it only about false manners. We probably wouldn't want to know why there were so many triple crowns in the '70s, and why there have been none since, but the horses are probably better for it.

Tonalist could not have run in the Derby even if owner Robert Evans and trainer Christophe Clement wanted him to. Under the points system used to qualify for the Derby, Tonalist wasn't even close to making that field. Most trainers, owners, and jockeys have clearly stated that the time line for the triple crown races is not healthy for young horses yet they still run them....I dont believe a little sickness would have derailed the horse up to this point, a major injury of some sort yes. Victor Espinoza was asked about the TC prior to the race and he said its almost impossible today they way its set up for so many fresher horses to enter the race. I'd say he knows a thing or two.

Lets not make it appear as if he had been racing all along. Conquistador Cielo had given warning that he was something special when he was clearly the best 2-year-old in New York until he fractured a small bone in his shin. That injury laid him up from last August until February the following year. He ran well in two allowance races in Florida in February winning the second by four lengths but reinjured his shins and was again sidelined, until May 8. I would say he was relatively fresh since injuries prevented him from running in the derby and the preakness. Initially his trainer who I believe won like 5 Belmonts in a row had no intentions of racing him but the horse came out of that grade 1 Met Mile race so well he rolled the dice a few days before the Belmont an entered knowing his horse had not really been tested and was definitely fresher than the rest of the field. It was a very low turn out for the race only like 40,000 fans showed and the track was in deplorable conditons after a ton of rain.

One last point, horses simply aren’t asked to run 1 1/2 miles anymore,except at the Belmont. It is the only Grade 1 stakes race in America which goes that long.There would be no way that these three long races would get crammed into a five-week period if the Triple Crown were being created today. Today’s horses almost always get four weeks of rest between races, and most races are a mile with a few here and there that go 1 1/8 miles. In the Triple Crown series, the distances are 1 1/4 miles at the Derby, 1 3/16 miles at the Preakness and 1 1/2 miles at the Belmont. Coburn's correct is saying there is room for improvement in the rules for qualification but the format of these 3 races in a span of 5 weeks should remain the same in my humble opinion.

Speaking of tradition,in the old days the same horses ran and the fields got smaller. In the Kentucky Derby they would run like 12 horses. In the Preakness about 7, in the Belmont about 5 or 6 horses. All of them the same horses. Now every single race there are fresh horses. In Secretariat's Triple Crown run he had to beat just 5 horses in the Preakness and 4 at Belmont. The last Triple Crown winner Affirmed in 1978 had to beat 6 horses at the Preakness and only 4 at the Belmont. California Chrome who beat more challengers in the Kentucky Derby (18) than Citation faced in his entire Triple Crown campaign (15) back in 1948. California Chrome faced 10 in Saturday's Belmont. Of the 11 horses who have won the Triple Crown none ran against more than seven horses at the Belmont.

Remember Secretariat's Belmont win was a 5 horse field because it wasn't like it is today, trainers/owners looking for 1 win instead of 3, so they can sell rights to their horse as a triple crown race winner. Some want change because they feel greed is hurting horse racing. Racing in general has seen some tough times, with that being said if the Triple Crown is regularly spoiled by a horse that doesn't run in the previous race or in any of the previous legs of the Triple Crown its going to continue to see tough times. Running for the Triple Crown shouldn't be easy which explains the current format of these 3 races in a span of 5 weeks but a rested nobody can beat the tired somebodys. Look at the finish and you can see the horses ahead of California Chrome were ahead by about what you'd expect a rested horse vs a tired horse to be. There's something to be said about one horse being asked to race three huge races in just over a month and other horses are resting and then enter the next race as a challenger.

Since Affirmed's triple crown win in 1978, 12 horses have entered the Belmont with a chance to win the Triple Crown. None of those 12 horses have won. The 12 horses that played spoiler and won the Belmont with the Triple Crown on the line 9 have either skipped the Kentucky Derby and Preakness or skipped one of the first two races. The last six Triple Crown attempts the horses that won the Belmont did not run in the Preakness, the race that precedes the Belmont. When Spectacular Bid lost his Triple Crown attempt in 1979 he was beaten by Coastal at the Belmont. Coastal didn't run in the Kentucky Derby or Preakness,that was 35 years ago. Fast forward to today and Tonalist pulled off the same feat.