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White Linen

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  1. 2 hours ago, FireChans said:

    Shades of Pats fans lording Brady over every other good QB in the league lol

     

    And you were going to leave TBD if we drafted Allen...... Well..... We're waiting....

     

    As the late great Ted Knight would say.

  2. On 6/8/2025 at 2:40 PM, Ya Digg? said:

    Ok so I’ll simplify my question. Would you rather have Bateman for $12 million a year or Cook for $12 million? To me that’s a no brainer-Cook is a much more dynamic weapon than Bateman is and if I had to choose between the 2 I wouldn’t hesitate to pick Cook 

     

    The question is a false equivalent.  

     

    Would you rather have Bateman at $12 mil or Shakir at $13.25 mil?  That would be an accurate comparison.

  3. 2 hours ago, JohnNord said:

    Much of the discussion this offseason has been about Keon Coleman and the step forward he’ll need to take to become successful. In fact, Brandon Beane constructed the WR room with the expectation that Coleman would take on a bigger role.

     

     

     

    I'm not sure I agree with the bolded, this off season.  I think the additions of Palmer and Moore are moves Beane made to guard against the need to depend on Keon.  He's going to need to earn his playing time / "bigger role" / define his role.

     

     

    2 hours ago, Beck Water said:

    As far as fan expectations being realistic - Beane has a draft pattern of trying to overcompensate for drafting late in the first by choosing high ceiling/low floor kind of guys.  

     

    I'd disagree slightly and say Beane's pattern is drafting high character players and IMO, sometimes has passed on higher ceiling guys.

     

    He's not overcompensating, it's what teams historically do that draft late in the first.  You try to find a player that out produces that slot.

     

     

     

     

  4. On 6/5/2025 at 5:18 PM, Ya Digg? said:

    I’m honestly not sure that I did

     

    what would someone consider a successful season for Bateman or even the Bills new $12 million WR in Palmer? Is either one going to put up the roughly 1,400 total yards and 8-10 touchdowns that Cook has averaged over the last 2 seasons? 
     

    I’m not even sure I’m saying Cook should get $12 million a season, but people have to admit, a team’s 3rd to 5th best receiver making that money is kinda crazy at this point 

     

    You're talking about fair value and what's being replied to you is market value.  

     

    Market value is more volatile and while it encompass aspects of fair value, it relies on trends.  You're trying to value Cook based on calculations but his value is what the market says.

  5. 7 hours ago, Slippery Rubber Mats said:

     

    idk from Diggs point of view he's got a big contract, invites to show off his fashion line, on a boat with big titty women doing pink coke. Looks like he's having fun in Diggs-world

     

    As a great philosopher once said;  It's not a lie, if you believe it.

     

    Just because he can't see it ....

  6. Likely would have had a HOF career,  had he been able to maintain some self control and stayed with the Bills.  What a disaster he's making of his life.

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  7. 11 hours ago, muppy said:

    greetings. 

     

    This situation with James Cook is all drama Drama DRAMA

     

    I don't like it.  The fan base is tired of the games being played here.

     

    am I right?

     

    freakin make up your mind. Either side. I'm Over it.

     

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    I get what you're saying and I don't think any fan enjoys a player they relatively like, posturing against the team they love.  I don't even know if this stuff is proven to work. 

     

    However, RB's especially, the way they get used and discarded.  I'm for them doing whatever they have to, in order to earn every last dollar.

     

     

     

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  8. 39 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    We also had a monster offensive line.. I really like cook like him since draft day

     

    He's not irreplaceable behind our offensive line 

     

    They are going to open up holes for the foreseeable future for any running back who gets to go into training camp with a groove

     

    I think you make good points about the offensive line but I also disagree that any RB can replace Cook's production.

     

    I'm not saying he's irreplaceable but he's not easily replaced, IMO.

     

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  9. 4 hours ago, Augie said:

     

    My wife is from Rock Hill, SC (right cross the border and home to several NFL players), and she has a ton of family in Charlotte. I spent a week every summer for almost a decade in Chapel Hill taking the kids to UNC basketball camps. It’s a great area, no doubt. 

     

    But the real entertainment here is the idea of Bill Belichick groveling for the services of some 17 year old kid. I wonder is his GF helps him with recruiting? 

     

    Small world, obviously being from Charlotte been to Rock Thrill many many times.  Then you know the UNC love is intense, hence I decided to root for Duke, haha.  

     

    BB will do very little recruiting, IMO.  They have the infrastructure to take care of that.  Him being the coach will help them close on more players than they ever have, IMO and obviously if he needs to get involved on a significant recruit, he will.  It's also a pretty difficult school to get into and it has an extensive alumni with deep pockets. 

     

    They will be able to recruit financially with any college in the country.  Now will BB, I believe they'll be relevant.  

  10. I've lived in Charlotte for 29 years, so I have some perspective. UNC is by far the most popular college program among people that live here and most definitely, people originally from here.

     

    UNC actually recruits well and sends people to the NFL at a fairly high rate, commensurate with their lack of National success. North Carolina produces massive amounts of high end college players.  Also, there's a few towns/cities in South Carolina that also produce quality college players and they're more connected to NC, than SC, in terms of where their family works and are from.  Charlotte is about 15 minutes from the SC border, so tens of thousands of people live/move there for the low taxes, etc.  These players have largely gone elsewhere because there hasn't been a nationally successful NC program.  

     

    UNC has a real opportunity to recruit, because the players are right here.  Historically, some great ones have already chosen to go there.  Now with BB, it should be easy.

     

     

     

  11. 45 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

     

    Your explanation continues to evolve and become more convincing, if I'm being honest. I was initially arguing only a strict statistical rebuttal to your claim of "very average" athleticism. The published RAS is nearly a quartile above average. That's irrefutable. However, you continue to erode my faith in that metric for Hawes, and now I'm sad. Thanks. 

     

    I think you make excellent points about Hawes and he can play in the NFL as a blocking TE.  I was originally doubtful he can make the 53, but I hadn't considered the possibility of moving on from Gilliam and/or Davidson.  With the new kickoff rules, he may be able to play special teams with less distance to run and just using his explosion.

     

    He's an interesting prospect but he's definitely going to need to overcome some shortcomings.  In the NFL, these men are strong and athletic.

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  12. 48 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

     

    Problem with your conclusion is that size and strength very much are part of the athleticism equation in football. Being bigger and stronger in such a leverage-based contact sport IS necessarily better. So explosiveness at a larger size = athleticism (in part). He's not terribly fast, for sure. And I guess we don't about agility scores. But being big, strong, and explosive is a nice trifecta for a Y/F TE coming in to block and play teams (and run a few routes here and there). 

     

    I just don't think you're being fair.  Only 3 of the 4 quadrants counted because he didn't qualify.  50% of the 4th quadrant was scored and it was going to seriously reduce his RAS.  I don't understand what your issue is with my evaluation of the data and him. 

     

    I said his explosion is outstanding and he has decent size.  The other two factors are poor.  You made up your own trifecta, not RAS. Big, strong and explosive are not 3 (tri) of the 4 quadrants.

     

    You said his high RAS is an indicator he's athletic in comparison to his peers. It's not,.there's not a problem with my understanding of the data, in which you believe in.  

     

    You tell me why the data says he's on the top end of athleticism and use all 4 quadrants.

  13. 2 minutes ago, Billy Claude said:

     

     

    61 receptions on 102 targets (59.8% reception rate) and you can't argue the low catch percentage was because he was going deep since he only got 538 yards for 8.8 ypc. 

     

     

     

    How would low catch percentage tell you he wasn't going deep, because of the yards and ypc?  I'm sure there's advanced stata but I don't think that's the indicator.

     

    Without looking anything up, couldn't low catch rate and low YPC, also be aligned with bad QB play?

  14. 3 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

    I gladly would've given him the contract the Steelers gave him because Allen is in his prime and doesn't have a #1 WR that scares a defense.  I'm not the idiot that gave Hoecht, Palmer, and Ogunjobi what would've equated to what we pry would've paid Metcalf.

     

    Oh good grief, you too?  Nevermind 

     

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  15. 4 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

    I get it now.  Lol.  Nobody is thinking that the Steelers would trade Metcalf after just trading for Metcalf.  We're wondering whether Beane screwed up in not outbidding the Steelers to get Metcalf.  I absolutely think he did.

     

    Why only Beane though?  If this was such a blunder, then why couldn't Seattle get more than pic 52 and then they had to weaken that?  It's simple, the huge money, obviously. I know you understand this.  To act like that's not even a discussion, is childish. You wish we would have, fine.

     

    To the bolded, then why would she mention Hoecht and a package, couldn't fetch a second round pick? It's what she does and it weakens her argument.  

  16. 8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

    He’s better enough that no one reasonable could even argue he ISN’T better. 
     

    As for the consequences,, I would be 100% fine with not signing Josh Palmer and 2 more DL depth FAs who got popped for PEDS and are gonna miss 6 games and MAYBE missing out on Sander to have DK on the roster. Unequivocally.

     

    Right now, could we package Palmer, Hoecht and Ogunjobi for a 2nd round pick? Of course not, because they aren’t nearly as valuable. But guess what? Their cap hit combined is MORE than DK’s this season lmao.

     

     

     

    Knowledge is knowing a tomato is a fruit.  Wisdom is understanding you don't put it in a fruit salad.

     

    The Steelers couldn't package Metcalf for a second either.

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