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    Jim Miller breaks down Senior Bowl QB's

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    I was on the road listening to Sirius NFL radio yesterday when Jim Miller (who I have a lot of respect for in evaluating NFL QB's) broke down the QB's. I was driving so I'm recapping what I heard, but the overall message is the same.

     

    Christian Ponder-FL. ST.

    Arm thrower, doesn't open his hips on throws to the left, won't survive in the NFL. we'll be injury prone and won't get enough zip on the ball.

     

    Stanzi- Iowa

    Not enough arm strength, especially given his huge upper body, doesn't convert it into powerful throws. Said he shouldn't be there over the Wisconsin QB.

     

    Kaepernick-Neveda

     

    spoke very highly of his accuracy, arm strength and mobility. Said his college numbers are Drew Brees like with 10,000 passing and 5,000 rushing. Did mention the difference between WAC and SEC style conferences. However, that is what the senior bowl is about to has those differences out. really liked his size at 6'4"

     

    Locker-Washington

    Said he is the most intriguing of all the prospects due to size, strength mobility. Said he feels he is Mark Sanchez, like, raw, but with skills. Probably could use a year in a system to develop.

     

    Dalton-TCU

    thought very highly of him with this leadership, accuracy and mobility. Said he had the best feet and pocket presence of all the QB's. Thought his arm strength needs a little improvement by wasn't far off NFL caliber.

    Give Spiller a break

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    Javid Best has been hurt all year. Spiller's role is more of WR which takes longer to develop. Not to mention we had to showcase Lynch which took development time away from him.

     

    Bush's first year

    2006 New Orleans Saints att155 yd565 3.6

     

    Javid best 444 yards and a 3.6 average. Not any better than Spiller

    Again, ignoring the QB and OL situation will doom us this year...

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    So you want to stick your head in the sand and do nothing, and wait for the great Nix to draft 11 future HOFers. Right? LOL. Sound strategy.

     

    McNabb was not the only QB that was available and there were OLmen available as well through free agency - not all of them chumps that you "lets not do anything risky" types love to ridicule. Again, we did absolutely nothing to plug the two biggest gaping holes we have, QB and OL. Amazing how a few of you bob your heads and wave pom poms at this decision. Most of us find it inexcuseable.

     

    Sorry guy, you may enjoy losing, most of us do not.

     

     

    Guy, I hate losing as much as the next guy. However, you have to realize that rebuilding is rebuilding and there is a right way to do it. You have to separate the fact that previos regimes have failed with their draft picks vs continuing to do the right thing and build through the draft. We have to hope that Nix and crew actually pick the right players, something we haven't done in a long time (Butler anyone).

     

    McNabb didn't want to come here. So who else? Bulger, not a qb of the future. Rex Grossman, no better than Trent. Senaca Wallace, forget it. Vick, I'd love to see it, but dealing McNabb eliminates Vick (this year). Derek Anderson, I don't think he's any better than Trent. McCoy, Clausen, time will tell.

     

    O-linemen, Gaither hasn't played, and has been injury prone and wants a crazy contract. Flozel, right tackle at best and is on the downside of his career. So what do we gain here? a modest increase and one year later of hashing out if Bell, Merideth and Wang are a long terms answer. You have to let players develop. If there was a great find that we passed on, I guess I missed it.

     

    Look at Washington the last few years. All the free agents in the world, and no closer than we are. We've been drafting near Washington since we've been bad.

     

    Let people develop and draft good players. We are so thin at talent, its the only way we are going to get close. We've dug ourselves in such a hole with bad drafting, it's a long way back.

     

    Get a beer, put on some college football and watch for players you want on the bills and put on a helmet because it's going to be a long, necessary year to get the pick at the top

    Again, ignoring the QB and OL situation will doom us this year...

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    What I wouldn't have done is ignored the OL and QB positions which is what we did. Bold thinking gets us out of the NFL celler, not the status quo. Unlike some of you, I find it unacceptable to do nothing. Trade a pick or two for some proven vets.

    Short term fix? Not hardly. We need more players, a mix of proven vets and youngsters - Trent Edwards would be hard pressed to be 3rd string on any other team, the same goes for most all of our OLinemen.

    Are you even old enough to remember when the Bills had their Super Bowl runs? Continued patience approach is a recipe for continued dissapointment.

     

     

    so what you're saying is that you'd like the Bills to do what they did the last several years by thinking we are close and bringing in a vet (T.O. anyone) and ignoring the fact that we needed a total rebuild. We aren't close, nor have we been. The fact of the matter is that the Bills have missed on so many first and and second round picks that we lack good talent. If fact, the only two teams to have fewer draft picks still on the roster since 2006 is Detroit and the Rams. So you are sick of rubbing shoulders of the dwellers of the NFL, that stat shows why we are there. Further, that stat shows you need to hit on draft picks to get great in this league. So trading picks for Bradford or a vet would just put us further behind.

     

    Who is the mystery quarterback you want? McNabb didn't want to come here. Bradford costs our first, second, third this year and our first next year. Further putting us in a hole for talent. The fact of the matter is that previous regimes missed on so many first round picks that we lack talent. Maybe we can get Vick to come here next year while we allow our draft pick to learn and get NFL ready.

     

    Also, looking forward, the 2011 draft class is QB and OL talent rich. This might be the best tackle class we've seen in a long time. Also, don't forget about Ed Wang, this guy has potential, it sucks that he got hurt in camp, but he'll be our starting RT by years end.

     

    There is no quick fix to this disaster of a team. Sit back, and try to get enjoyment of watching guys like David Nelson develop and hope we can get this turned around for next year. We are many players away from competing, not just one or two.

    Jimmy Clausen

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    I'll be honest here: I didn't really care who we drafted this spring, as we had a hell of a lot of needs.

     

    But after watching some of the Panthers/Ravens game last night, I have to say...I wish we had drafted Clausen. For his first NFL game, he looked better than anyone we've got on the team right now. I couldn't help but think "he could've been ours" the entire time I watched. Am I alone here?

     

    Oh well - here's hoping that Spiller ends up making me forget all about this tonight!

     

     

    Don't get caught up on a guy who looks good playing backups. Remember how good Hamden looked every year.

     

    He may be a good QB, but, see what he does if he gets the first string nod.

    My Camp Report for Tuesday 8/10

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    If the LT does'nt perform well Edwards will not be around to see next season. Teams are going to blitz us to death until we prove that we can stop the blitz and complete passes. Teams are going to line up 8 or 9 on the line and try to shut the run down and pressure the qb. Same story for the last 7 or 8 years now. The offensive line is well known as one of worst in the league. They need to protect and burn teams when they try to blitz us. Same goes for the defense. If they cannot pressure qb's and stop the run it will be along season. By the third game of the year we will know what we have.

     

     

    I say let teams blitz us, one or two screen passes to Spiller that go the distance, teams will think twice about unleashing the hounds

    why I am not so worried about LT situation

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    I'm not in denial, I am in TN.

     

    I never said that we had pro-bowl caliber LT's on this team. I don't buy into the all the sky is falling bs that permeates this board. My point was that Gailey will play to the strengths and set the O up for success.....hadn't felt like we had that going on for a while....so even if LT is a weakness, and it may or may not be, we have good young guards and hopefully a competent gameplan....

     

    Why worry about something you have no control over? Life's short, think positive thoughts...

     

     

    we can play to our strength until we get behind in games and have to throw the rock. I hope the D keeps us close to keep with the running game

    our final 53

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    - I think they keep 4 TEs and no FB because they'll run out of double-TE sets mostly

    - I can't for the life of me see Naaman make it, but do think he winds up on the PS

    - I could see Youboty traded before the season starts

    - if Brohm doesn't look at least serviceable early, he'll get cut for Fitz (no way Brown goes to PS)

    - if Schobel retires, they'll keep 2 LBs not mentioned above (11 total) and 3 TEs

     

     

    Naaman will probably be practice squad. I like the thoughts here

    our final 53

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    Started looking at what we'll keep this year. Roscoe is out in my book, but Chan may like him, Roosevelt to PS then? Can you justify 5 tackles? This also assumes Schobel is in the mix. I think fitz will be moved to the bears or cut. My thought on the bears is he has experience in the martz system, and they say they want a more vetran backup than the rookies. If one of the tackles can long snap, that allows for roscoe or chad jackson to get into the mix. Or, open up another spot for Harris.

     

    I know camp is a ways away, but if the season started tomorrow.

     

    outside looking in

    QB 3 edwards brohm brown fitz

    RB 3 cj lynch fred

    WR 5 evans hardy easly naaman johnson roscoe jackson

    TE 3 nelson schooman klopfenstien

    T 5 bell wang green merideth Ramsey chambers

    G 4 levitre wood calloway Howard

    C 1 hangardner

    k 1 rian

    p 1 moorman

     

    DE 4 stroud carington johnson edwards mccargo

    NT 3 williams troupe harvey

    OLB 5 maybin ellis schobel ellison batten kelsey

    MLB 4 davis poz moats mitchell Harris

    CB 5 mcgee mckelvin corner yabooty florence lankster

    S 5 byrd whitner wilson harris Scott

     

    LS 1

     

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