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The only other option is he is getting younger.
The implication was that his skills are, or are on the verge of diminishing due to his age. I should have worded the response differently. My bad.
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Wilfork is in his sixth year, and will be turning 28 this year. That's coming to the end of prime years for a DT of his size. Sorry, but that's the NFL. Not saying he can't be productive. You are conflating the two notions, just that he's going to start losing a step in the speed and power department. Walker was the only good player on that Oakland line. His LG was a sieve, as was his center. When he played at RT, his RG was even worse. Walker had a bad last year in Oakland, but has looked much better for the Bills. Statistically and technically he was one of the best players at his position last year. Agree with you to some extent about Ellison. Like I said, that will have to be addressed. As for the Pats* OL, Hochstein, Nathan and Kaczur are all on the wrong side of 30 or will be by the end of the season. That's the entire starting corps of your interior offensive line. Sorry bub, but apparently people who aren't NE fans can be objective about your team's flaws. That fact is explained by Belicheck's statements that he wanted to draft Eric Wood if he fell to the second round. Guess even your coach is more willing to address the weaker points of your team than you are.
28 is not even close to old for a NT. See Casey Hampton and Jamaal Williams. The best NT the Pats have had was a guy you should be familiar with, Ted Washington. He was in his upper 30s. Wilfork has 7-8 solid years ahead of him. Walker was never even a good player with Oakland. He was horrendous, and only good at blocking kicks. On the Pats OL, you obviously are speaking from an uninformed position. I have no idea who this Nathan is and Hochstein is a backup. Kaczur will be 30 in July, and was already losing PT to Ryan O'Callaghan. The O Line is not even slightly a worry. Like I have said in previous posts, the one area of concern would be OLB opposite Thomas. Shawn Crable was drafted in the 3rd last year, and they have high hopes for him. There is a lot of talk about signing Jason Taylor which would also help that area. Unfortunately for you guys, the Pats are in a very strong position now and moving forward. BTW, the Pats go into next years draft with a 1st and 3 2nd round picks.
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I would consider Seymour and Wilfork to be getting older, particularly at their positions. Wilfork is starting his seventh season and Seymour his ninth. No one said anything about Whitner. Calm down. No one said anything about Meriweather either. The fact is, you do have some young talented players, but they have little experience. You are also getting older at other positions. Why so defensive? I can admit that my team has weaknesses. For example, Schobel is getting older and we will likely have to go after another DE in the draft next year to ensure that we have two solid young DE pass rushers. Same goes for our SAM OLB. Ellison is adequate but not good enough IMO to be an every game starter. That is also going to have to be addressed either in the offseason that is left, or next year. The jury is out on whether Walker will be good enough to play LT. I think he will, but only time will tell.
Your OL is starting to get old as well, and they haven't held up to the pass rush as well over the last 17 games. See the Pats* last SB game for some clear evidence.
Also, I'm glad to see that you had no response for the first 90 percent of my post and rather chose to make personal attacks about "letting truths get in the way." Strange words coming from a Pats fan whose team was exposed for cheating. Oh the irony.
Your credibility was shot when you stated Wilfok is getting older. The guy is still in his rookie fricking contract. Your opinion on Walker is wishful thinking. He's tried left tackle, while with Oakland, and he was terrible. The Pats OL is not even close to old but may need to be addressed if Mankins walks after this year. Ellison is not even adequate. He's horrible. He's way undersized and can't run a lick.
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So Souther Miss is not a good football school? Hmm Brett Farve may want to argue that point with you. As well as countless others. Seriously, i dont know why i waste my time with you afc.
Didn't say that. Just stating facts. So you're also saying he's the "steal of the draft" huh?
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Actually, they said he could play in either scheme. Pay attention. They thought that at the weight he played at PSU he might be better as a Rush LB, but that at his current weight of 250, if he could maintain his speed, he could be very successful as a DE.
As for Nelson, the fact that he fell means those teams didn't have a need for a TE at their pick. That doesn't mean he wasn't the steal of the draft. I guess all those coaches and GMs were wrong about Brady too huh? Terrell Davis? Just because you were picked later in the draft doesn't mean you weren't talented enough to have been drafted higher or that the measureables weren't there. It means teams didn't have a need at that position to fill at that time. He was considered the third best TE prospect in the draft by almost every analyst, and the second best in terms of being an overall TE. That is he is a great receiver and has solid skill blocking but needs some work in that area. You are literally the only person I have seen who has not thought he was a steal in the fourth round. That means that you are either smarter than every draftnik at ESPN and NFL Network, or you know absolutely nothing about football, particularly the TE position. Based on your posts on this board, I'm going with the latter.
He was the 6th TE taken, so some teams obviously had a need. At this point to say a TE, out of Southern Miss, that can't block and was taken in the 4th round after 5 other TEs was the "steal of the draft" is moronic.
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What Jimmy Johnson said is hearsay and irrelevant. Plus, provide a link to the actual statement. Even if he was doing it, that didn't make it right. You, apparently are a believer that the Lemming theory is an ethically viable one. The fact is, a lot of teams, including the Rams and Eagles who were cheated on in SB games did complain when they found out. Other teams have complained as well, including GB, Detroit and, yes, the Bills. The fact is, the only team they were able to catch doing it was the Patriots. That's fact. They cheated. Nothing makes that better or worse. Your team cheated to win games. That hurts the sport, it hurts the integrity of the game, your team, and it should make members of their fan base sick. I haven't seen that. Just more of the Lemming philosophy.
You also didn't respond to my point. If the Patriots were the only ones doing it, and you have no proof other than hearsay that they weren't, then it would be the most common type of cheating. Who knows, maybe the Pats* were cheating in more than one way, and the league never discovered it. That would still make it the most common way, because they used it predominantly. The fact is, no Pats* fan can show any factual proof, other than one articles' supposition that other teams have cheated, then using lack of outcry based on that one article as proof. That's not proof. That's an unsubstantiated inference based on another unsubstantiated inference. You have nothing to show that anyone else in the league was doing this. The league investigated it. You were found guilty by the league and were (in my opinion inadequately) punished for it. Time to move on.
As for the Cheatriots' team this year, yes you are getting Brady back, but your D is much older and getting slower. Not just at LB either. The Golden Boy will be able to do his thing on offense, but your D is weak everywhere. You will not be winning 12-14 games this year. I see 10-6 or 9-7 and another year without the playoffs. Still good, but just not good enough.
The Pats have moved on (4-0 since this broke against your beloved Bills). As for a link, here you go.
http://www.pewterreport.com/forum/index.ph...20078.msg415556
Your wishful thinking clouds any objective analysis. The Pats D is actually getting younger and faster. The only players on their D that would be considered old for their positions are Tedy and SPrings. These guys will not be expected to be every down guys any more. In the last few years, the Pats have focused on getting younger and faster. Guyton and Mayo were the 2 fastest LBs at the combine last year. Thomas is considered a very fast LB. Wheatley and Wilhite were two of the fastest CBs in last years draft, and Butler was the fastest at this years combine.
D is weak everywhere? The D line is among the best in football. They have the returning Def ROY. Also, you may want to check Meriweather's stats vs Top 10 Whitner from last year. He's a lot more of a play maker than WHitner has been in any year of his career so far. But who lets actual truths get in the way?
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Why do all of "the sky is falling" people seem to come out on the same day? Here, yet again are the facts that show you are extremely pessimistic if not completely wrong in everything you have said in this post.
First, would you PLEASE ACTUALLY CHECK A PLAYER'S
STATS BEFORE YOU POST!!!! Hangartner has started 27 of the 54 games he has played, both at Center and at Guard for an exceptionally good interior line in Carolina. Here's the stats from NFL.com. http://www.nfl.com/players/geoffhangartner...le?id=HAN148149 Brad Butler is much better suited to playing the RT position. He was a three year starter at RT for UVa in college and has played some at that position for the Bills. If you think that teams don't play OL at guard and move them to tackle, then please see Michael Ogden and Jason Smith, this years #2 overall pick who will be playing GUARD this year for the STL Rams so that he gets a better feel for the NFL game before moving to LT. Langston Walker looked above average, though not great at LT last year spelling an out of shape Peters. Dockery was a revolving door and the combo of Fowler/Preston was TERRIBLE up the middle last year. These two rookies that are coming in are bigger, faster and smarter than either of those two guys. What more do you want. This crap about the OL getting suddenly worse is just chicken little BS.As for Maybin, I don't know what websites you've been trolling on lately, but Maybin was not predicted as a late 1st rounder by anyone with any sort of legitimacy. Maybin was consistently cited by Mayock and Kiper as the best pass rusher in the draft, who had the highest upside, even taking into account his slightly lower floor. He's got all of the tools to become a great DE. Why don't we wait and see how they actually look on the field this year before passing judgment.
As to your third point, WTF? I don't even understand how this is a complaint. His speed, measureables, and skill set translate well to being a FS. How is this a problem? And since we didn't get to see Chris Ellis much on the field last year, how the
do you know he won't be a solid player for us? Were you suddenly hired on as the talent evaluator at OBD? If so, they should seriously think about going another direction.Lastly, again, WTF? He was the third best rated TE in the draft and the concensus of people much smarter than you (aka Mayock, Kiper, McShay) all were in disbelief on draft day that he fell as far as he did. Buffalo was unbelievably lucky to get him. He has great hands, as you would know if you took the time to watch any of his film, which you clearly didn't. He's also been working to become a better blocker. Just because we didn't take Pettigrew doesn't mean we didn't draft a good TE. You are seriously the ONLY person who seems to think Nelson wasn't the steal of the draft.
All in all, you made O points, and backed them up with nothing but your chicken little fears, suppositions and beliefs. Before you post again, try to actually have facts. I don't mind having discussions and arguments, but at least have something intelligent to say before you go running your mouth off.
You all continue to use partial bits of info to make your argument. Ys Mayock, Kiper and McShay thought he was a good pass rusher, but they all thought he was best suited for OLB in a 3-4, not 4-3 DE due to his lack of bulk.
As for the "consensus of people much smarter than you" (Kiper, Mayock on McShay); Due to the fact he fell to the 4th round, the consensus of people much smarter than you (AKA NFL GMs and coaches), he was a 4th round talent and the 121st pick in the draft.
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Moss was traded for fair and square. That was a great trade by The Patriots. Welker, however, was stolen by preparing a poison pill offer that the Dolphins couldn't match, the Dolphins didnt want to lose him for nothing, so they made the trade for the 2nd and 7th. That's stealing. It's only been done a couple times in a couple decades because everyone knows it's cheating the system and extortion.
Actually, they did not use the Poison Pill clause, but no point in using facts to back your argument. Here is an exerpt from the Globe about the trade for Welker.
By that point, the only question was how to finalize the process. The Patriots were prepared to sign Welker to an offer sheet that included a "poison pill" that would make it difficult for the Dolphins to match. Yet in hopes of avoiding the bad blood that sometimes can accompany offer sheets - the Seahawks and Vikings recently engaged in a nasty back and forth with offensive lineman Steve Hutchinson and receiver Nate Burleson exchanging teams via offer sheets - the Patriots instead called the Dolphins and proposed a trade.
The Dolphins were amenable, shipping Welker to the Patriots for second- and seventh-round draft choices. The Dolphins used the second-rounder (60th overall) to select Hawaii center Samson Satele, who has started all six games this season. The seventh-round pick (238th overall) yielded Abraham Wright, a linebacker from Colorado who has been inactive for every game
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Cute. Citing a letter from a Pats* fan with a link to one SI columnists opinion page. That's not proof that other teams did it. That's a Pats* fan trying to justify his team getting caught with more of the same speculation you got called out on. And by the way, most common doesn't necessarily mean that more than one team did it. It could also mean that was the preferred method used by the team that got caught. See the words "most common" in and of themselves are vague AND ambiguous, particularly when used without context. See paying attention in basic english courses or in logical reasoning would have taught you that set of reading comprehension skills. We asked you to cite more specific examples. You gave us more assumptions and fluff from a letter clearly written by a BB apologist. Thank you, come again.
This article (see the link) came out BEFORE Spygate and states this is the MOST COMMON type of cheating in the NFL, not just by the Patriots. Like I said in a previous post, Jimmy Johnson said that was all being done the same way when he broke into the league. If the Pats were the only team doing it, why was there no outcry when this report came out?
As for a later post claiming Pats fans don't see there teams faults, I'm a realist and do. This year, the Pats soft spot could be one of the outside LB positions, but short of that, this years team does not have any obvious shortcomings. This year's team is stacked on paper at nearly every other position, but a single injury can obviously change that.
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according to IP
this is afcfan1
100% not true. I do agree with most of what he said, but I would have added that this team needs to start fast becaus of the TO factor. If the Bills start to lose a couple games in a row he will be in full TO mode.
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To me you are wasting your time Dean...this guy doesnt seem to know football (he must work for the Raiders) as he dellusionally thinks the 40 time at the combine is the same thing as game speed. Anquan Boldin had a poor 40 time at the combine which is why he slipped to the 2nd round (alla Byrd), and how has that worked out for him?
To illustrate how over inflated the combine is...think of all the workout wonders out there who couldnt do squat in the NFL...then look at who was the worst combine performer of all time at his position: Slowest 40, worst high jump, fewest bench reps, and this is of all time...his name was Tom Brady. This is the same guy who is now known by most professional analysts as one of the most (if not the most) mobile QB in the NFL. Not in terms of scrambling, but in terms of pocket movement and avoiding the rush. In fact, Jaws did a whole piece on this a couple years ago.
So, you can have your combine speed, I will take speed when the pads are on and the ball is in the air. And for those who have never played a down in football, I will give you a tip. You can shave 3 to 5 tenths off a safeties so called 40 time on safeties who take good angles and have good instincts (see Ed Reed who has average speed but plays like he is the fastest guy on the field on just about every down). That is why its not necessary for a Safety to have elite speed and why Byrd was ranked the 2nd highest safety by most in the draft despite not playing safety in college.
Please site where he was the 2nd highest rated safety. I looked a ton of predraft stuff and he was never up there. It was always Delmas, Moore, CHung, Johnson and several other guys. I never saw Byrd ever rated as a top safety.
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That's hysterical--your own article actually names the Pats* as the team accused of doing this and is the only example provided, no other team is mentioned as videotaping opponents' signals! It's also well known that Banks is a Pats* homer; he lives in Boston and follows the Sox, so go figure where his NFL allegiances lie. That's probably where he got the information for this article on cheating--from his Cheatriot sources! He and Peter King (who now also lives in Beantown) knob gobble New England and Belicheat worse than just about anyone to the point it's been known to makes an objective observer physically ill on occasion.
Most Common = Not just 1 team. And he's actually a Vikings apologist, not Pats. It's so funny, you guys want so bad to believe something, when a nationally respected journalist disputes your beliefs, he's wrong and you're right. By the way, now 4-0 against the Bills since Spygate.
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You're way off, and a complete moron.
There are a handful of teams that can compete with Owens, Evans, Reed, Parrish, Lynch, Jackson at the offensive skill positions.
Throw in what many consider a promising young QB, and that's a hell of a nucleus right there.
On defense, there's a sh-- load of young talent (McKelvin, Byrd, Youboty, Poz, Maybin) to go with a few solid vets (McGee, Mitchell, Stroud, Schobel, Whitner). If half of these guys can take a step forward this year, which isn't too much to ask, we're talking about a solid unit.
I'm sorry you can't see this. Reading your other posts, it's quite clear you're just a dipsh!t trying to stir the pot.
Did I forget that we have the league's most talented special teams unit? GTFO
Weird, even with your Bills fan rebuttal you can't mention a single OL. That's not good. Reed, Parish and Jackson???? Are you serious? You tried to trade Parrish and couldn't get anything for him. Please let me know the next time Youboty, Poz, McGee as a corner, Schobel, Whitner or Mitchell make a big play.
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I agree that this team has the talent, now, to be competitive, if the rookies are as good as advertised. I think given a proven coach and system you'd see a playoff team, and no one in the media or nfl circles would question it. The weakest link here, now, imo, is the coaching. Can they put together the right game plans, can they prepare their players mentally and physically - can we get back our home field advantage, especially in the winter - those questions are the hinges on which this season hangs, and trent's play, of course. And as for Dynasty, I'd like to just know the Bills will be in Buffalo for another ten years before we start on the Dynasty talk.
As an outsider, I honestly wonder where all of this talent is on the Buffalo Bills roster. The Bills just seem to be one of the least talented teams in the NFL. I am being 100% serious when I say this. When you break it down, the talent on the Bills roster is really just a few guys (Lynch, Evans, TO if this isn't the year that being old gets him, Stroud, Leodis and McGee as returners not corners). No I am not including Top 10 Whitner in there, because he is just not that good. Stroud is the only guy from either the DL or OL that would be considered above avg. If you take off the Bills colored galsses, and compare the Bills to other teams around the league, just in terms of pure talent, the Bills appear to be one of the least talented teams in the league. THey're gritty but not very talented.
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Links, please, showing that "everyone does it"? I provided a link, which included multiple quotes from League sources, to back up my point--where are yours? Just like a Pats* fan to level the charge that "everyone else cheats" so it's not a big deal, but then have no evidence to back it up. Not saying you're a Pats* fan, but that is exactly the arguments that their delusional bandwagon fanbase trots out, without any evidence.
An interesting comparison is Bills fans' reactions to Lynch's suspension. He, too, was caught doing something wrong and was punished, in some ways more harshly (so far, depending on the results of his appeal) than others who'd done worse (Brandon Marshall anyone?), but you don't find masses of people here griping about how unfair his punishment was. Compare that to the crap you'd find last year on Pats* fan boards about Spygate, where they all acted as if the league was out to screw them and just them, despite massive evidence to the contrary (like Goodell's destroying the evidence on their behalf and Goodell being a choice of Kraft's for commissioner.)
Please read above where I've given the reasons for why, IN MY OPINION, which history may show is right or wrong, I think that the Pats* will not be as dominant a team as they were in the past. I also think it's funny that folks defend them as some kind of "dynasty" when they haven't won a Lombardi in going on 5 years ,while the Stillers have won two since then. Their fans should also wonder why they alone are hated League-wide--travel from coast to coast and you'll find Pats* haters. It has nothing to do with being a "dynasty" and "all dynasties are hated, which is the line they inevitable trot out". I myself admire and like the Steelers and Colts--classy organizations that do build from within with humble and likeable coaches and, in the Rooney's case, owners, unlike New England. The reason people hate the Pats* is their a-hole coach and his proven cheating ways and "win at all costs, right or wrong" mentality, their obnoxious owner (trademarking "19-0, the Perfect Season" before they had won that last all-important game?) and their bandwagon, moronic fanbase (they had 19,000 season ticket holders in the early '90s, in a city 5 times Buffalo's size). I'd also have to add Brady's arrogance and obnoxiousness to the list after reading that Esquire article last fall, in which he talked about running up the score on us, among other things (karma had a funny way of correcting him after he gave that interview, no?)......
I'm through trying to talk sense to someone who obviously has a soft spot in his heart for the Cheatahs despite reams of evidence to the contrary.
Game. Set. Match......
Not so fast my man. Here is an email that was sent to Mike Florio at PFT at the height of the "Spygate" scandal. Please note the date of the article. Well be fore "Spygate". This article clearly points out videotaping signals is the "most common" type of cheating in the NFL. Combine that with Jimmy Johnson stating, after the video was released, that he was doing the exact same way when he broke into the league. Here is the email with link included.
Mr. Florio,
I must tell you on 99% of occasions I agree with what you say. But on this issue I feel you, and the rest of the national media, are being extremely hypocritical. Please read this article (last updated July 25th, well before this scandal) from Don Banks http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ....nfl/index.html. I’m guessing Mr. Banks was a responsible journalist and did an extensive amount research on this subject. He is quoted in the article as saying “stealing'' of signs -- both on offense and defense -- is the area that's most often cited as fertile ground for cheating”, and he followed this up with “The most common practice is for a team to videotape an opponent's signal-givers on the sideline, and later marry up those indications to the game tape in order to identify tendencies or patterns”. This article clearly points out videotaping an opponents signals is the MOST COMMON type of “cheating” in the NFL. The media is trying to paint a picture of BB being a lone wolf in trying to gain a competitive advantage over all other teams. Why have so many coaches not spoken out Mr. Florio? You would think these teams that were “victimized” by the Patriots during their Superbowl runs would be all over the place questioning whether or not this could have been a factor in their defeats. Could the reason be they don’t want to speak out because (according to Mr. Banks) this is the MOST COMMON method of cheating in the NFL, and they are just as guilty? The Pats broke the rule, plain and simple, but the media should not be ignoring how common this practice is. The “everybody else is doing it” excuse does not make it right, but I do think it needs to be mentioned, especially when the validity of their championships is called into question. Let me ask you this, why didn’t Mr. Mangini call BB out on this last year (he had 3 opportunities)? I would venture to guess it is because Mr. Tagliabue had turned the other cheek on this for years, and Mangini knew he could get BB in trouble with the new sheriff in town. I’m anxious to know what you think.
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Really? Because you compared Chung to Byrd as if they played the same position. You also seem to think that Byrd's lack or top CB speed means he will be too slow to play FS in the T2.
I really don't think you understand it, at all.
BTW, Chung is also slow, and not a guy you want to have covering anyone but the slowest TE.
Actually Chung was the 4th fastest safety at the combine while Mr Byrd ran a 4.68 and 4.69 40 at his pro day. That is not just slow, it is terrible. I know speed isn't everything, but there are not a lot of successful NFL DBs that run nearly 4.7 40s.
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Pats* Fan Since 2001 and D*mn Proud of it, I'm sure. I swear, I've never seen a bigger group of smug *ssholes in my life. It's going to be fun watching them tank one of these years. Wait a second, it's BEEN fun watching them tank since that Giant Super Bowl! Worst choke job EVER! This past season was a lot fun, too, being a "dynasty" and all, but still not making the playoffs.
Changing the subject is the only thing he's an expert at, since he keeps doing it every time he gets smacked around here.....
Tank??? Go 11-5 with a back up QB, down to a 4th string RB (you should know he ran for 100 against the Bills), Thomas out for year, Harrison out for year..... If that's tanking please define the Bills last decade.
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I notice you changed the subject pretty damn quick, instead of admitting you don't know the difference between a FS and a SS.
Not that I expected anything more from you, Pats*fan...er "afcfan".
What a loser.
I'm actually very clear on the difference between a FS and a SS (and actually in the "Tampa 2", there's not much of one). Currently the Bills have a top 10 pick at SS that makes zero impact and couldn't cover you. Now you put cement footed Byrd in at FS and the Bills should have a great time defending the deep ball. No worries though, because teams won't have the time to drop back and chuck it deep against the Bills with their beastly pass rush.
Any takers on the O/U on the Bills picking at 7??? Terrible OL and DL....I'll take the under.
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Byrd isn't a big hitter, but he is an excellent tackler. Big hits are overrated. They are nice when they result in a turnover, but too often result in a missed tackle, or worse, in an injury to one of your own players. Give me a solid tackler, anytime.
But, I think you missed the biggest issue (which doesn't surprise me based on your other posts). Chung is likely to be a Strong Safety and Byrd a Free Safety.
A slow Free Safety paired with a Strong Safety that doesn't make any plays. Combine that with no pass rush and the worst O Line in football and the Bills should challenge for the AFC East title this year. Any one want to take an over/under on the Bills draft position next year. We'll set it at 7.
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LMAO...you just compared him to Mayo before he has ever played a down...and FYI: I will take Byrd over him as a Safety prospect, and we got Byrd
Byrd over Chung??????? You completely make yourself look like a moron homer with a comment like that. Byrd doesn't hit, is extremely slow and wasn't half the player Chung was at Oregon.
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Way to change the subject, dude. We weren't talking about the Bills drafts--we were talking 'bout the "mighty Patriots"* and their last few "mighty drafts", drafts that really garnered them no one but Mayo, IMHO. They're living on their drafts from earlier this decade (you know, the decade I'm sure you started following them--probably a Cowboys fan before 2001) and Bob Kraft's wallet (which I suspect may be shrinking by the day, since his other business is a paper company (think Dunder Mifflin) in an increasingly electronic age and since Patriot Place is a bust in this down economy).
Say what you will about our drafts since 2006, but I'd take ours over yours any day of the week, and I'm not saying that as a Bills homer, just looking at the players themselves.
A few more drafts like the last few and with Brady and Moss each being 32 and I'd say you guys should be levelling out at 8-8 in within two to three years. Maybe that's why Bob really wants to go uncapped next year, so that he can continue to buy the talent he can't seem to draft any more.....
PS As for Ngata, I wanted the Bills to draft him way back when (he or Bunkley), but since he went mid first round, I'd guess that means that half the league passed on him, too, no?
The Patriots do not believe great teams are built through the draft. They use the draft to supplement the proven vets they have on their team, and the free agents they bring in. If the draft is your primary method for building your team, your team's chances for success are greatly minimized. The Bills are a tremendous example of this. All of these "great" drafts have lead to a team that is a middle of the road team year after year with minimal talent. You can have your belief that the Bills had better drafts, but the fact is the Patriots are a much deeper and more talented team than the Bills.
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Yeah, they "drafted" those guys, didn't they? Please read above before posting, moron.....
You're right dude. The Bills Front Office and Talent Evaluators blow the Pats away (if you can say that with a straight face, you're an idiot). That is why Buffalo is such a talented football team. Just because the Bills draft guys that make their starting lineup doesn't mean thy have great drafts, it means the Bills lack talent. For example, was K Ellison a great draft pick because he starts for the Bills? No, he wouldn't even make the Pats roster. Same for Kyle Williams,McCargo and Simpson. How you can defend a Front Office that passes on Ngata for Donte frickin Whitner is beyond me.
Speaking of Top 10 Whitner, I believe Meriweather had a better year than he did last year.
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Go back up a bit and look at the 2006 and 2007 drafts (which contain a decent number of folks not even in the League any more) and tell me they had good drafts with a straight face. The facts don't bear that out.....
Do you mean the 07 draft where they got Welker for a 2nd and Moss for a 4th? Yes, I can say with a straight face that worked out pretty well for them.
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Just because they have a good team where it's difficult to break into the line-up doesn't mean you have a great draft either just because you draft back-ups. Pretty much every team drafts the first two rounds as starters and anyone after that a project or bonus. The other guys didnt seem to produce, they weren't real surprises. Mayo was obviously a great pick. Frankly, I would have taken the Bills drafts over the Pats drafts the last two years previous and this one, too (although that is based on the fact I think Hardy will become a good player).
You'd be in a very small minority.
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Does it occur to you that the Bills just have mediocre players? If it looks like a pile of unmotivated bodies, which I agree with, it's more on the types of players on your team, than your coach. I can understand being out of position because of coaching, but unmotivated? THat is a character flaw with the Bills. I've said this before, and I firmly believe it's the main problem with the Bills; they have no proven winners on their team. Who on the Buffalo Bills has really accomplished anything in the NFL teamwise? Mitchell and who else? The Bills just seem to be in the habit of getting players on their team and hoping they are winners, and not going after players that have proven they have the ability to win.
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