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He gets the appropriate amount of snaps in practice for an NFL backup quarterback, and so far as I understand it there are some backup NFL quarterbacks who actually have had a degree of success, oh wise and mighty knowledgeable football guy.

If there is one thing JP Losman can do (and seriously, it seems, there is only one thing JP Losman can do) it is chuck the thing long. So maybe we ought to try that.

Can they review this?

Don't even touch him there, he's going to fall short of the first down anyway. That was a horribly weak call on McKelvin, but still, why even touch him?

That is not the basis of your original statement, in that there hasn't been someone as injury prone in Edwards in "a long time", which is patently false, and just gives me fits to think about, unless your frame of reference as a Bills fan is seriously like 20 games, in which case, I don't really think that statement should be made all together. It's not hard for me to understand that you are worried about Trent Edwards being injury prone, I am too. But the context of the original statement is wrong. So far as injury prone quarterbacks in Buffalo go, this is nothing short of usual. These referees are dictating the pace of the game.

So injuries only count if they have a direct impact on the team and the player is a starter? Then what are you asking me about Edwards "going back to college" for? Edwards has missed games or been taken out of games due to injury four times in two years, I believe. He has returned at least once. Are you willing to wager me significant amounts of money that JP Losman's injury pulls or missed games does not equal that? I am willing to wager approximately all of the money in the world that JP Losman has been injured as much as Trent Edwards, and that your original statement was the product of a mentally challenged person, a player apologist, a terrorist, or a combination of all three.

He is playing against a defense that sucks and it was bound to happen. He did this against the Cleveland Browns too, remember, and Losman was on the sideline. Of course, Losman may have been instilling fear in the Browns defense by shaking his porn 'stache at them, I can't really be sure of these things.

Losman broke his leg almost straight away, you inconceivably trite dumb ass.

To give your team the best chance to win now, while you're still in the playoff hunt. JP probably knows the entire system. Or at least he is supposed to. Hamdan is a third string quarterback, he likely is only very knowledgeable of basic sets. If we were 4-7 instead of 6-5, this would make sense, but you don't prostitute even the slimmest chances of getting to the dance to determine if your third string quarterback is indeed a football player.

I am not an Edwards apologist. I don't care who the QB is as long as we win games. We can have a QB as dumb as one of you people so long as you are winning games for me. With that said, is it really possible that Edwards has been harboring a groin injury that has restricted him in recent weeks, or is this just some ridiculous short-term conceived excuse to get Losman in there?

Really! Apparently you've just became a Bills fan in the last 180 seconds. Say, what gave Trent Edwards the opportunity to even get into the starting line-up last year? Say, what gave JP Losman his first real opportunity in football and what happened to his leg when that happened? Say, what was the name of that guy who was hurt so often we had to give his job to a midget from Worcester? Say, do you have any idea what you're talking about?

Amazing. JP Losman is an amazing human being.

It is silly to say race is a part of it. What are you saying? Are you saying there is something innate about black folks that makes them want to go to dance clubs that white people do not have? Are you saying there are no white athletes who want to go to those places? Are you saying there is something about the owners of the bars or the patrons of the bars in Buffalo that would not be inviting to black people? Or are you saying that black people would not want to go to those kinds of bars. Because regardless of the situation, you are focusing on race, race is not making itself a reason. Perhaps race is a part of you, but not necessarily it.

I do not get almost the entirety of this thread. Why is it acceptable for 24-27 year old men to be "bored" because of a lack of dance clubs and vibrant night life? What kinds of people want to go to these sorts of dance clubs? Not strictly black men. That is sincere ignorance. The answer is 20-year-old college students and people who never grew out of being 20-year-old college students. I want athletes on my teams who are level headed, well grounded, and interested in creating and raising a family. You know, the reliable sort. If you're reliable in life... Living the life of a fledgling adult (20 year old) when you are, in fact, a full grown adult being paid big boy money to perform the rarest of occupations, you are setting yourself up for failure. There are plenty of men, black, white, purple, yellow, silver and tangerine who have made Buffalo their home permanently, or at the least for their playing career and almost all of them have a few things in common, most noticeably: They all desired to create or build upon lasting, meaningful relationships with other people, they all save and/or invest their money in meaningful ventures, they all valued the importance of family, and they all were perfectly ready to be grown ups.

We're not that horribly out of it so far as the playoffs go. We share very similar tiebreakers with Denver and New England (Denver, if we tie with them, currently has a 3-4 conference record and we play them head to head) New England, if we beat them, would go to conference record and they are 5-4 in that category. We are 4-4. The Dolphins are 5-3 in conference, so if we beat them, there is a good chance we will match or break that tiebreaker. The teams that are leaps and bounds ahead of us in the tiebreaker categories are those that we don't match head-to-head this year: Indy and Baltimore. So the moral of the story is, the team needs to do its job. If it sweeps the remaining division games, the playoffs will take care of themselves.

It is curious to me, at least from my perspective, to see how when a younger generation of Bills fan proclaim, "We've got it bad. Real bad." that the older generation of Bills fans immediate and almost unanimous response is "You ain't see nothing yet." Bills fans are a real family -- even the most jaded national sports broadcasters will submit that Buffalo comes together over it's sports teams. The team is a reflection, I think, of how the citizens of Buffalo think the rest of the world sees them viewing themselves. But I don't think that it is healthy, or entertaining, or interesting, or fun (which are what sports are all about) to compete over which type of fan has had it the worst. What really bothers me, personally, about the Bills team is this -- and I think that this is why this loss is so damaging in comparison to others. Firstly, we've had worse losses, we've had more miraculous losses, we've had more painful moments, and the ditch has indeed been deeper. In retrospect, the lowest of lows were far lower than we are now. In 1997, with the Super Bowl era Bills drifting into the twilight, the first real prospects of the city of Buffalo not even having a team came up -- a franchise in mortal danger a decade and a year before where we are now. In 2001, the Bills were a miserable collective of misfits, has-beens and never will bes: No player who could even consider themselves a starting quarterback, no offense, no hope. Things have been bad, real bad. Drew Bledsoe brought a whole bunch of hope, and a whole bunch of points, but I could have ran for 150 yards on those defenses. Last year we found ways, time and again, amazingly, to snatch defeat from the jaws of the victory -- against Denver, against Dallas. And it's all hurt, but not this way -- the games that I've mentioned and the situations have always sucked, and it's always felt bad, but we've never hung our heads like this; this outpouring of emotion has never been so targeted, so specific, so beyond anger that it can only be described as exhaustion. Here is why, I think: In my opinion, it hurts the worst, because we trusted this team. Unlike the others. The younger generation of Bills fans have never known a real winner, or even the facade of a real winner, and as such have come to understand that being a Buffalo Sports fan is accepting failure *most* of the time. That is what it is in any small market, in any situation that teams similar to the Bills and Sabres find themselves in. So all the time, they've drank the kool-aid... the constant, nonstop rebuilding, time and again, willing to accept that success is just another year off, because there have been so many faces and so many changes and the younger generation truthfully only remembers the Super Bowl stars as old men place-holding positions for younger, abler athletes. And just like them, the older generation has come to accept mediocrity as a part of Buffalo Sports for an entirely different reason: Because in being a Buffalo sports fan for 25 or 35 or 45 years, they have no choice but to. That's life. Hell, even the best teams lose most of the time, and Buffalo sports have not always provided the best teams. But there was something special about the story of this team, something that felt like a coming together. And I think that at 5-1, they held onto it just long enough where, no matter how fragile the Bills community has been, everyone collectively had to say that they were believing again. And so we sit at 5-5, and the summary is, and everyone is thinking, "Do I really have the energy, do I really have the motivation to go through this one more time? Again?" Because if you can't trust a team at 5-1... if you can't get yourself amped and truly believe for a team then, on it's next in a long line of quarterbacks, led by the next in a long line of coordinators, hired by the latest in a long line of coaches, then when can you? When can you believe? If not now, when? For about eight years, the Bills were a model NFL franchise -- and even then they couldn't break the glass ceiling. And when other then that have the Buffalo Bills ever given you a reason to believe? It's like a girl you met real young, and chased your whole life, and have never, even gotten real satisfaction. Sooner or later, decades... you have to ask yourself how worth it is it really? I will never not be a Bills fan. But the older I get, the less I can enjoy it. Somewhere along the line, all that enthusiasm and hope starts to drift away, starts to lose itself in other things. Sometimes you don't get the girl, and that's ok. I think we'll all always love the Bills, no matter what. But how often have they ever loved us back?

The Bills ran the ball three times when they got to the Browns 34 yard line because they are afraid of what might happened if they put the ball in Trent Edwards hands right now. That is not a winning strategy, but with the way he has been playing, you can at least give them to the benefit of the doubt. But Jauron's Buffalo Bills are a fragile team for this reason: They are run entirely on the basis of fear. Marshawn Lynch had a fantastic game last night. He was the only reason it was a game last night. But all season long, he has had trouble hitting the line hard and picking up slop yards. He gains yards only when he is capable of somehow doing it all by himself. I would have liked to see Fred Jackson take a snap from the 34 yard line last night, instead of giving it to Lynch three times, because Jackson is the type of running back who picks up small chunks of yards in the scrums. But he fumbled, so Jauron operated completely out of a basis of fear, and kept him out of the game.