berndogg Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 This will add more feul to the arguments of people who like James Hardy and Antoine Cason. For people who don't read Mandel, he is one of the most knowledgeable college football writers out there. He should earn your respect in the first 3 paragraphs when he talks about how stupid the combine and mock draft junkies are. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...008draft/1.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_wag Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 This will add more feul to the arguments of people who like James Hardy and Antoine Cason. For people who don't read Mandel, he is one of the most knowledgeable college football writers out there. He should earn your respect in the first 3 paragraphs when he talks about how stupid the combine and mock draft junkies are. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writ...008draft/1.html mandel = overrated Overrated: Dwayne Bowe, LSU (SI VideoFILM ROOM) People have been drooling over this guy since the day he stepped foot on LSU's campus, and rightfully so, seeing as he's a strong, massive receiver who can get up and grab a jump ball. There's only one problem: He drops passes. Lots of them. Much was made of his offseason LASIK surgery a year ago, and Bowe did cut down on his drops last year, but there were still some pretty big ones, most notably a wide-open touchdown against Florida that might have changed the course of what was then a 7-7 game (LSU wound up losing 23-10). He's a good receiver, one who had nearly 1,000 yards last season, but he was never quite as good as his lofty billing in college. Now he's being overhyped headed into the pros. Overrated: Marcus Trufant, Washington State If the scouts were looking for a glimpse of how Trufant might fare against NFL-caliber receivers, perhaps they should have watched tape of the past two Apple Cup games, where Washington State's Trufant was primarily matched up against Washington stud Reggie Williams. Williams caught a combined 23 passes for 372 yards. Overrated: Kevin Williams, Oklahoma State A classic one-year wonder. His huge senior year was a major reason Oklahoma State was able to put an end to its five-year bowl drought, but it required an explosion between his junior and senior years and doesn't guarantee he's going to be able to dominate at the next level the way a mid-first round pick should. Kind of reminds me of the aforementioned Gerard Warren. Overrated: Carson Palmer, USC No one was more deserving of the Heisman last season than Palmer, but what about the four seasons before it? Unlike Cal's Kyle Boller, whose struggles as an underclassman could be largely attributed to poor coaching and a sorry surrounding cast, Palmer played under two ex-NFL coaches, and USC is never lacking for talent. It took him four full years to fully grasp the nuances of being a college quarterback, during which time he threw as many touchdowns (39) as interceptions. He could very well become a reliable NFL starter, but it may take him a while -- certainly longer than usually afforded the No. 1 pick http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/.../23/over_under/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...ated/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ans4e64 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 mandel = overrated Overrated: Dwayne Bowe, LSU (SI VideoFILM ROOM) People have been drooling over this guy since the day he stepped foot on LSU's campus, and rightfully so, seeing as he's a strong, massive receiver who can get up and grab a jump ball. There's only one problem: He drops passes. Lots of them. Much was made of his offseason LASIK surgery a year ago, and Bowe did cut down on his drops last year, but there were still some pretty big ones, most notably a wide-open touchdown against Florida that might have changed the course of what was then a 7-7 game (LSU wound up losing 23-10). He's a good receiver, one who had nearly 1,000 yards last season, but he was never quite as good as his lofty billing in college. Now he's being overhyped headed into the pros. Overrated: Marcus Trufant, Washington State If the scouts were looking for a glimpse of how Trufant might fare against NFL-caliber receivers, perhaps they should have watched tape of the past two Apple Cup games, where Washington State's Trufant was primarily matched up against Washington stud Reggie Williams. Williams caught a combined 23 passes for 372 yards. Overrated: Kevin Williams, Oklahoma State A classic one-year wonder. His huge senior year was a major reason Oklahoma State was able to put an end to its five-year bowl drought, but it required an explosion between his junior and senior years and doesn't guarantee he's going to be able to dominate at the next level the way a mid-first round pick should. Kind of reminds me of the aforementioned Gerard Warren. Overrated: Carson Palmer, USC No one was more deserving of the Heisman last season than Palmer, but what about the four seasons before it? Unlike Cal's Kyle Boller, whose struggles as an underclassman could be largely attributed to poor coaching and a sorry surrounding cast, Palmer played under two ex-NFL coaches, and USC is never lacking for talent. It took him four full years to fully grasp the nuances of being a college quarterback, during which time he threw as many touchdowns (39) as interceptions. He could very well become a reliable NFL starter, but it may take him a while -- certainly longer than usually afforded the No. 1 pick http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/.../23/over_under/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...ated/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 lol carson palmer overrated, he's sick!! carson might be the best, he's certainly top 5 IMO. i agree that Q groves might be a steal. i'd love us go get him in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndogg Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 mandel = overrated Overrated: Dwayne Bowe, LSU (SI VideoFILM ROOM) People have been drooling over this guy since the day he stepped foot on LSU's campus, and rightfully so, seeing as he's a strong, massive receiver who can get up and grab a jump ball. There's only one problem: He drops passes. Lots of them. Much was made of his offseason LASIK surgery a year ago, and Bowe did cut down on his drops last year, but there were still some pretty big ones, most notably a wide-open touchdown against Florida that might have changed the course of what was then a 7-7 game (LSU wound up losing 23-10). He's a good receiver, one who had nearly 1,000 yards last season, but he was never quite as good as his lofty billing in college. Now he's being overhyped headed into the pros. Overrated: Marcus Trufant, Washington State If the scouts were looking for a glimpse of how Trufant might fare against NFL-caliber receivers, perhaps they should have watched tape of the past two Apple Cup games, where Washington State's Trufant was primarily matched up against Washington stud Reggie Williams. Williams caught a combined 23 passes for 372 yards. Overrated: Kevin Williams, Oklahoma State A classic one-year wonder. His huge senior year was a major reason Oklahoma State was able to put an end to its five-year bowl drought, but it required an explosion between his junior and senior years and doesn't guarantee he's going to be able to dominate at the next level the way a mid-first round pick should. Kind of reminds me of the aforementioned Gerard Warren. Overrated: Carson Palmer, USC No one was more deserving of the Heisman last season than Palmer, but what about the four seasons before it? Unlike Cal's Kyle Boller, whose struggles as an underclassman could be largely attributed to poor coaching and a sorry surrounding cast, Palmer played under two ex-NFL coaches, and USC is never lacking for talent. It took him four full years to fully grasp the nuances of being a college quarterback, during which time he threw as many touchdowns (39) as interceptions. He could very well become a reliable NFL starter, but it may take him a while -- certainly longer than usually afforded the No. 1 pick http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/.../23/over_under/ http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writ...ated/index.html Damn U SI archive!!! I still think Mandel is good, but I guess he was a little off on his analysis of a couple of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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