Team Canada!!!!!

[Dante]

Im Canadian and lived there for 40years and now a permanent resident of the US. I know the people and the general psyche of Canada. The dedcisions and actions of the governmentof Canada after 9/11 was a true embarassment to me. The US has been a true friend and when all the US wanted political support for the Iraq invasion ,Canada and that retard Chretien, pussied out. It was then that I decided to go from my Permanent Resident Card to full US citizenship.

[IndyJay1234]

Why in the hell was Canada wearing 9-11 patches.  They were not part of it and they sure as stevestojan were not there to back us up.  Those A-HOLES ran and hid when we asked for their help!!!!!

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Ok, So now you are basically saying we did help?? But it is dwarfed by what America did has done for Canada? So did we run? Or are you now saying that we did help but it does not matter because of the fans in Montreal? In my world actions speak louder than the boos.

 

You asked why they wore patches? Well it was to show the respect. The respect you want from the idiots in Montreal that boed right?

 

Saying that Canada is a bunch of a-holes that ran? Sounds like we stepped up and helped in Afganistan. Now your whole premise is that you are pissed about a Hockey game in which fans booed the anthem. That one I can agree on but this original post has zero merit.

[IndyJay1234]

Im Canadian and lived there for 40years and now a permanent resident of the US. I  know the people and the general psyche of Canada. The dedcisions and actions of the governmentof Canada after 9/11 was a true embarassment to me.  The US has been a true friend and when all the US wanted political support for the Iraq invasion ,Canada and that retard Chretien, pussied out. It was then that I decided to go from my Permanent Resident Card to full US citizenship.

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With regards to Iraq the US does not even have the support of their own country. It is the major debate of the entire country. Worry about that before worrying about Canada with regards to Iraq.

[millbank]

People from many, many countries died in 9-11, too many to remember.  And me spitting in the face of Canada.....you have to be kidding right???  This is a freaking message board.  20,000, I repeat 20,000 Canadiens spit right in the faces of every living American by booing our Anthem.  There is just no excuse for that whatsoever.

 

And for what we have done for Canada in the past, their help was appreciated, but dwarfed by what we have done for them.

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Rayzer , booing of anthems has happened in both countries and I think in both countries the majority of the population was ashamed and angry at those who did'.

 

Here is a commentary done some years ago that I think most Canadians agree with

by a man named Gordon Sinclair Title : The Americans

 

 

Topic: "The Americans"

 

The United States dollar took another pounding on German, French and British exchanges this morning, hitting the lowest point ever known in West Germany. It has declined there by 41% since 1971 and this Canadian thinks it is time to speak up for the Americans as the most generous and possibly the least-appreciated people in all the world.

 

As long as sixty years ago, when I first started to read newspapers, I read of floods on the Yellow River and the Yangtse. Well, Who rushed in with men and money to help? The Americans did, that's who.

 

They have helped control floods on the Nile, the Amazon, the Ganges and the Niger. Today, the rich bottom land of the Mississippi is under water and no foreign land has sent a dollar to help. Germany, Japan and, to a lesser extent, Britain and Italy, were lifted out of the debris of war by the Americans who poured in billions of dollars and forgave other billions in debts. None of those countries is today paying even the interest on its remaining debts to the United States.

 

When the franc was in danger of collapsing in 1956, it was the Americans who propped it up and their reward was to be insulted and swindled on the streets of Paris. And I was there. I saw that.

 

When distant cities are hit by earthquakes, it is the United States that hurries into help... Managua Nicaragua is one of the most recent examples. So far this spring, 59 American communities have been flattened by tornadoes. Nobody has helped.

 

The Marshall Plan... the Truman Policy... all pumped billions upon billions of dollars into discouraged countries. And now, newspapers in those countries are writing about the decadent war-mongering Americans.

 

I'd like to see one of those countries that is gloating over the erosion of the United States dollar build its own airplanes.

 

Come on... let's hear it! Does any other country in the world have a plane to equal the Boeing Jumbo Jet, the Lockheed Tristar or the Douglas 10? If so, why don't they fly them? Why do all international lines except Russia fly American planes? Why does no other land on earth even consider putting a man or a women on the moon?

 

You talk about Japanese technocracy and you get radios. You talk about German technocracy and you get automobiles. You talk about American technocracy and you find men on the moon, not once, but several times ... and safely home again. You talk about scandals and the Americans put theirs right in the store window for everybody to look at. Even the draft dodgers are not pursued and hounded. They are right here on our streets in Toronto, most of them... unless they are breaking Canadian laws... are getting American dollars from Ma and Pa at home to spend here.

 

When the Americans get out of this bind... as they will... who could blame them if they said 'the hell with the rest of the world'. Let someone else buy the bonds, let someone else build or repair foreign dams or design foreign buildings that won't shake apart in earthquakes.

 

When the railways of France, Germany and India were breaking down through age, it was the Americans who rebuilt them. When the Pennsylvania Railroad and the New York Central went broke, nobody loaned them an old caboose. Both of them are still broke. I can name to you 5,000 times when the Americans raced to the help of other people in trouble.

 

Can you name to me even one time when someone else raced to the Americans in trouble? I don't think there was outside help even during the San Francisco earthquake.

 

Our neighbours have faced it alone and I am one Canadian who is damned tired of hearing them kicked around. They will come out of this thing with their flag high. And when they do, they are entitled to thumb their noses at the lands that are gloating over their present troubles.

 

I hope Canada is not one of these. But there are many smug, self-righteous Canadians. And finally, the American Red Cross was told at its 48th Annual meeting in New Orleans this morning that it was broke.

 

This year's disasters... with the year less than half-over... has taken it all and nobody... but nobody... has helped.

 

 

-please do remember that many Canadian hockey players do play in American cities have made many friendships, have found wifes , now make their homes in the U.S.A raise their children, and were right along side of everone else in the nation grieving for those lost and marvelling at the great courage of those who helped

 

The Americans

[Rayzer32]

Im Canadian and lived there for 40years and now a permanent resident of the US. I  know the people and the general psyche of Canada. The dedcisions and actions of the governmentof Canada after 9/11 was a true embarassment to me.  The US has been a true friend and when all the US wanted political support for the Iraq invasion ,Canada and that retard Chretien, pussied out. It was then that I decided to go from my Permanent Resident Card to full US citizenship.

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Thank you Dante.

 

I think Canada is the most beautiful country in the world, but what has happened between us and them is terrible. So close, but yet so far.

[Rayzer32]

With regards to Iraq the US does not even have the support of their own country. It is the major debate of the entire country.  Worry about that before worrying about Canada with regards to Iraq.

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This is just too ridiculous to respond to.

 

Every last American supports our troops, some who unfortunately are losing their lives every day.

 

You are completely idiotic even trying to say we do not support what is happening. Practically every f-ing car in this country has a yellow ribbon on it somewhere.

 

Some may not support why we are there, but by all means WE ALL SUPPORT THAT WE ARE THERE.

[IndyJay1234]

This is just too ridiculous to respond to.

 

Every last American supports our troops, some who unfortunately are losing their lives every day. 

 

You are completely idiotic even trying to say we do not support what is happening.  Practically every f-ing car in this country has a yellow ribbon on it somewhere.   

 

Some may not support why we are there, but by all means WE ALL SUPPORT THAT WE ARE THERE.

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Supporting our troops vs supporting the war are two different things..

Do you think Canada does not support US troops? No that is ridiculous!

They do not support the reason we are there. Neither do some Democrats..

 

Major difference. Come on..

[IndyJay1234]

This is just too ridiculous to respond to.

 

Every last American supports our troops, some who unfortunately are losing their lives every day. 

 

You are completely idiotic even trying to say we do not support what is happening.  Practically every f-ing car in this country has a yellow ribbon on it somewhere.   

 

Some may not support why we are there, but by all means WE ALL SUPPORT THAT WE ARE THERE.

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Just to be clear we are in complete agreement on this one.

[IndyJay1234]

Rayzer,

 

My argument with you is that your original post on this topic was way off base. That is all.

[Rayzer32]

I'm not here to make enemies or fight with anyone, this is just a very touchy subject.

 

I just wish all this crap would end so we could be done with it, but that will not happen no matter who the Pres is.

 

No hard feeelings Indy and go Bills goddammitt!!!!

 

I need some well deserved sleep now.

[IndyJay1234]

I'm not here to make enemies or fight with anyone, this is just a very touchy subject. 

 

I just wish all this crap would end so we could be done with it, but that will not happen no matter who the Pres is.

 

No hard feeelings Indy and go Bills goddammitt!!!! 

 

I  need some well deserved sleep now.

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It is all good man..

 

We cool.

 

I was pissed about the booing as well. I called all my uncles in Canada and they were pissed. It was classless!

[IndyJay1234]

I just do not want Americans to think that Canada does not have their back.

 

I remember during the last world cup Canadians were cheering for Russia because they did not want to face the US.

 

Don Cherry RIPPED the fans a new !@#$ that night. It was a thing of beauty. He basically said who the heck has our back in a war? Russia? No way... The USA and if they are playing anyone but Canada you cheer. It was great. I wish I had taped it..

[Dante]

Supporting our troops vs supporting the war are two different things..

Do you think Canada does not support US troops?  No that is ridiculous!

They do not support the reason we are there.  Neither do some Democrats..

 

Major difference.  Come on..

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Any schmuck can hedge a bet like that. To the democrats its just a political football, abeit a distasteful one. Canada cant say it supports the troops but not the war. That !@#$in ridiculous. Either your in or your out. A typically political way to gay out on a tough decision. Sometimes, when your a close friend, you have to back that friend even when its, from your perspective, questionable. I know I do that all the time in life with wife and friends. I will back them because that is what close friends/family/ spouses do. Why the hell wouldnt Canada back a country that has stuck and protected them all theses years? Lets face it, the reason Canada can afford all the cushey social programs is due, partly at least, to the fact that they have been under the military umbrella of the US prior to the Cold War and after till now.

[IndyJay1234]

Any schmuck can hedge a bet like that. To the democrats its just a political football, abetit a distasteful one. Canada cant say it supports the troops but not the war. That !@#$in ridiculous. Either your in or your out.  A typically political way to gay out on a tough decision. Sometimes,  when your a close friend, you have to back that frien even when its, from your perspective, questionalbe. I know I do that all the time in life with wife and friends. I will back them because that is what close friends/family/ spouses do. Why the hell wouldnt Canada back a country that has stuck and protected them all theses years. Lets face it, the reason Canada can afford all the cushey social programs is due, partly at least, to the fact that they have been under the military umbrella  of the US prior to the Cold War and after till now.

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gay out?? Wow..

[Rayzer32]

I just do not want Americans to think that Canada does not have their back.

 

I remember during the last world cup Canadians were cheering for Russia because they did not want to face the US.

 

Don Cherry RIPPED the fans a new !@#$ that night.  It was a thing of beauty.  He basically said who the heck has our back in a war? Russia? No way...  The USA and if they are playing anyone but Canada you cheer.  It was great.  I wish I had taped it..

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Oh boy, don't even get me going on Don Cherry. I live in Rochester, where he first coached and he was the best. I love that guy to no end. He has the balls to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants and is not shy about it.

 

I just can't figure out why two countries so close have these problems, although I think it is more of a French Canadian thing than all of Canada. I also think that French Canada is getting pissed that the US hockey teams are slowly getting tougher to play against. I know hockey is and will always be Canadas sport, but I think they are getting a little worried, especially when some Canadien players become US citizens and play for USA.

[Dante]

Oh boy, don't even get me going on Don Cherry.  I live in Rochester, where he first coached and he was the best.  I love that guy to no end.  He has the balls to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants and is not shy about it.

 

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Cherry is the Howard Stern of Canada. Say's what he wants with no fear of CBC discipline. He is the only personality on their stevestojantty network that makes money for them. He is a grass roots, realistic guy that I would like to think reflects the true thoughts of Canada. Not sure he does though

[IndyJay1234]

Oh boy, don't even get me going on Don Cherry.  I live in Rochester, where he first coached and he was the best.  I love that guy to no end.  He has the balls to say whatever he wants, whenever he wants and is not shy about it.

 

I just can't figure out why two countries so close have these problems, although I think it is more of a French Canadian thing than all of Canada.  I also think that French Canada is getting pissed that the US hockey teams are slowly getting tougher to play against.  I know hockey is and will always be Canadas sport, but I think they are getting a little worried, especially when some Canadien players become US citizens and play for USA.

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cool. go bills

[Dante]

cool. go bills

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As always. Go Bills!

[Rayzer32]

As always. Go Bills!

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Man, its close to game time!! I need some zzzzzzzzzz's so I can get up and do it all over again tomorrow.

[buffalomike]

wow Rayzer you were way out of line with this thread. FACT is that the day after the US anthem was booed in montreal, the US anthem got a loud standing ovation from the Toronto crowd before a sabres/leafs game at the ACC.....that is class. French Canadians are scumbags.