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Dude, stop predicting the Pats downfall. They will be fine as long as Brady is their QB. They are a great team, who consistently kicks our asses. Give them their due.

 

Our TEAM just has to step it up. Comments like Milloy's are not encouraging.

 

Its like...You wanna be the man, you gotta beat the man. Our road towards respectability, the playoffs and the Super Bowl goes thru New England.

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Dude, stop predicting the Pats downfall.  They will be fine as long as Brady is their QB.  They are a great team, who consistently kicks our asses.  Give them their due. 

 

Our TEAM just has to step it up.  Comments like Milloy's are not encouraging.

 

Its like...You wanna be the man, you gotta beat the man.  Our road towards respectability, the playoffs and the Super Bowl goes thru New England.

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And that, in a nutshell, is our quandry.

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Was it Elway??

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1998? So, it's been 6 full years? I thought the recipe for SB rings in the NFL was a 1st round QB per JP Era.

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Was Dilfer picked in the 1st round?

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Dilfer was picked in the first round. He was the last first rounder to win it and that was in 2001 I think.

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How do you figure?  Their only key player who's an UFA is Vinatieri, and they always franchise him.

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Can't you just let us dream??

 

Can't you just enjoy your team's superbowl victory instead of making sure we know the Patriots are going to be good forever?

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this thread is so silly... obviously the patriots have nowhere to go but down... "the clock is ticking"... way to go out on a freakin' limb

 

The damage is done. 3 championships. They got the key number (e.g. no one considers the Broncos a dynasty b/c they won only 2).

 

It's over. They're immortalized. The Patriots and their fans have won.

 

Now let's hope JP Losman doesn't fall on his face.

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Dilfer was picked in the first round. He was the last first rounder to win it and that was in 2001 I think.

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Dilfer was the last 1st round QB pick to win it all, but the more relevant fact is that Troy Aikman was the last first rounder to deliver an SB to the team which picked him.

 

Elway is a 1st rounder who won it twice but he actually was picked by Indy and Elway himself forced a trade because he threatened to bag football and pursue baseball where he was drafted by the Yanks unless he was traded and Denver was able to parlay the fact they fact they had a far better team than Indy (leading to their lower draft position) and traded non-essential players to Indy for Elway.

 

Though he salary cap did not exist at this time as part of the law of the league, it did exist in reality as no team was going to spend beyond the budget they set for their team. Elway proved incapable of leading a team to win the SB unitl he made the decision to take less than the market would give him in exchange for Denver agreeing to use that money to hold on to Terrell Davis, Shannon Sharpe and other players which put the Denver team over the top under Elway's leadership.

 

The most surprising thing to me this season was that the result last night yet again resulted in the drafting of a QB in the 1st round not to be the way to win an SB. '04 was actually an excellent year for results from 1st round QB selections as 8 or so of the 12 playoff teams were QB'ed by players taken in the first round. This result was an extraordinary departure from past years which look more like last year when only 3 of the 12 teams were QB'ed by 1st round selections of that team.

 

However, in the end, the result was the same and if you are interested in winning (or in most seasons even making the SB as McNabb was the first QB 1st round selection to even get his team to the SB since McNair led TN there in 1999) then you should not draft a QB in the 1st round since this approach has not been a working choice for a team since 1989.

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