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  1. You really are silly. Its college football, no team plays a tough opponent every week. Even the SEC has powder puffs.

     

    Its hilarious that you call Lucks performance against Oregon choking (it was far from it actually) then talk out the other side of your mouth about how Mallet (Choke artist #1 last year) was sooooooooooooo great.

     

    To add to this, I'm pretty sure Luck had about 400 yards of total offense and his team put up 31 points against Oregon last year. To me that certainly isn't "choking."

  2. IMO, barring injury, Luck is going to be the next "Peyton Manning". This kid processes info better than any college QB I've ever seen. He always seems to make the right decision in the pocket, even under pressure, and delivers an accurate pass. Not to mention how much of a "student of the game" he is. He's not only smart, but has every athletic quality needed to be a franchise QB. Arm Strength? Check. Accuracy? Check. Smart? Check. Hard Worker? Check. Pocket Presence? Check. Ability To Avoid The Rush? Check. Enough Speed To Scramble For Some Yards? Check. He would be the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow that may be our losing season.

     

    I watch far more college football than pro and IMHO Luck is the most pro-ready college QB I've ever seen. All of the above plus he has NFL bloodlines (anyone remember QB Oliver Luck from the Houston Oilers in the mid-80's?) and played in Harbaugh's complicated NFL-type system in college. He absolutely decimated a really good Virginia Tech defense with two future NFL corners in the Orange Bowl last year. The only thing that could hurt Luck this year is an injury... that's why I though it strange that he didn't enter the draft last year as a sure-fire Top-5 pick.

  3. So my question to you is it better to love the Bills with all it's warts than to never had the Bills at all?

     

    PTR

     

    With all due respect, it seems to me that you've posted a somewhat complex (and not particularly well-worded) question that legitimately has multiple answers.. and then you're blasting those who don't answer as you would like them to...

     

    Personally I feel that if the team is going to leave anyway (i.e. it'll almost certainly go up for auction when Ralph dies) and if no effort is legitimately being made to make the team competitive in the meantime, then might as well get it over with and move the team sooner rather than later. I'd be satisfied with lousy teams if I thought the team was going to stay in Buffalo post-Ralph.

     

    I don't think anyone here will say they have never derived any enjoyment from the team at some point over the past 50 years (your "never had the Bills at all" statement). But if it is inevitable that the team will leave, then IMHO, might as well pull the plug on the life support system now.

  4. I can't believe how many of you guys are acting like this is new news. Several of us have been posting the way this organization is run for years. Don't expect John Wawrow to elaborate any further on his point. It took courage to say what he did.

     

    Of course, many of you will not believe that this franchise has been devious and dysfunctional for many years, and now is even less subtle about cashing in as much as possible right now. I've been an executive in corporations that are getting ready for sale, more than once.

     

    At some point the ownership decides that the ultimate goal is the sale of the business (team) because they know they will not be competitive in the future. This may be because new competition has far more resources, or it may just be that the current ownership (of the Bills) has determined that they are not willing to invest the big bucks it will take to have a champion. So for a period of months or years, the business starts tightening its belt by cutting expenses (therefore improving profitability). When the business goes up for sale, interested buyers see a financial profile that looks very healthy, making it look like they can offer more money for the organization.

     

    As fans, we have to hope that a buyer wants more than a lucrative investment. We need new ownership that wants his new toy to be a champion and is willing to spend the additional bucks to make it happen. We also need the purchaser to keep the team where it is. The situation is not hopeless, but we need a "white knight."

     

    Yessir! I've actually posted this same thing multiple times on this board over the past couple of years. Ralph's financial moves paint a very clear... grim... picture. The two most telling signs to me are the expiration of the stadium lease agreement in 2012 and the lack of a naming rights deal on the stadium. The team will sell to the highest bidder at auction, regardless of where the bidder wants to move the team. And the buyer inherits the balance sheet of the acquired company at the transaction date. Maximizing profit now and clearing impediments (long-term liabilities) to moving the team will ensure the highest possible sale price (very likely $1 billion or more). The ONLY way the team stays is if the highest bidder wants to keep the team here. Likely with markets like L.A. out there???

  5. You can never really gauge the feeling of the fan base just by reading this forum. Everyone on here is more rabid & intense than the average fan and the feelings of disgust or impatience seem to be magnified on here. That said, from social media, to tv and radio, to everyone I talk to, the patience seems to be gone. It just seems like there is a prevalent burned out feeling when it comes to talking about the Bills. It used to take until after Thanksgiving for indifference toward the team to set in, now it seems like it has already started. It's like the battered wife is finally deciding to call the cops.

     

    I'm generally optimistic about most things, but when I think about the Bills, the "spark"... the sense of hope... is just gone. It's like I'm in Stage 4 of the loss and grief process: denial, anger, bargaining, now just depression. It isn't just that the team seems hopelessly bad yet again after over a decade of futility (while the miserly owner rack up huge profits)... it's that the only viable alternative to the horrible product may well involve the team moving to another market. <_<

  6. Many here, including me, have felt that Littman and Overdorf run this team. It absolutely blows that we have business men making personnel moves. Unfortunately, this team will never win with this set up. I think at Ralph's age he doesn't make any decisions anymore.

     

    Yeah, it seems that many Bills fans are still under the delusion that the "football transactions" the team makes (or doesn't make) are actually about football and not about economics. I posted twice in the Evans trade thread that the move was clearly about cost cutting but was drowned out by the standard "Lee wasn't any good" responses. I think you're absolutely correct that the team is being run more as a profit-maximizing business franchise than as a record-maximizing sports team. Very sad for us the long-suffering fans.

  7. My take is that Ralph isn't nearly as loyal to the city or people of Buffalo as many here claim he is. He has always been a shrewd businessman and he understands that there are substantial short-term fixed costs associated with moving to another market. He has a favorable (short-term) arrangement right now given the current lease deal, a yearly windfall from a game in Toronto, etc. For a guy born in October 1918, there is no long-term.

     

    ...Personally, I think if he was "loyal" to Buffalo he would have provided a transition plan to assure us that the team stays in Buffalo after his death. As we all know, he most certainly has not done that, which makes me hesitant to support the team financially right now. If I though the team might stay after he dies I'd be at my usual few games per year... but I cannot in good conscience line the pockets of Charles Montgomery Burns only to see my beloved team leave in a few years.

     

    That said, I really hope Terry Pegula develops a love for football very soon!

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