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    2024 Comp Pick Selections

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    Just now, boyst said:

    16 teams, half of the league got a comp pick.

    LAR & SF both got 5 picks.

     


    I get the minority hiring comp picks or if a team truly wants a player back, but it seems weird that if a team actively lets a player go, why should they get a comp pick. Edmunds for example, it really doesn’t seem like we had any intention of re-signing him. Then we have a SB team getting the most comp picks, so we can’t say they are given out for parity. 

    Off Topic: Sabres rehire Lindy Ruff as Head Coach

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    54 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said:

    I feel like this hire made too much sense not to happen. Lindy is a good fit for many reasons.

     

    - he’s an experienced veteran coach and a true leader. He’s forgotten more about hockey than most people will ever know. He has experience in just about every situation, from rebuilds to win-now and everything in between. And he has a great reputation in NHL circles. He’s well respected among NHL players and maybe now where more than Buffalo. I don’t think he will have any issue getting buy-in from the players.

     

    - He holds players accountable, as we all know. Every player said they needed more accountability. Well, they are getting it! lol

     

    - He is great at implementing structured defensive play. I have zero doubt this team will look much better in the defensive zone. There will be a defensive structure and it will be obvious to us (unlike under Granato…).

     

    - He just successfully coached pretty much the exact system Buffalo is designed to play. If Lindy gets the Sabres playing like the 2022/23 NJ Devils, every Sabres fan will be thrilled. That high speed rushing attack + taking away time & space on defense is exactly what Kevyn Adams wants.


    I think his system fits better than Berube. I think Gallant’s system would have fit too but he’s not really known for having good defensive structure. If you go listen to the NY rangers player exit interviews after Gallant was fired, there’s lots of talk about needing better structure (similar to Buffalo player exit interviews this season).

     

    - and I don’t think any coach will take more pride in coaching the Buffalo Sabres. Lindy is personally invested in this team + city. He’s lived here since 1979. He knows this town and fan base as good as anyone. He is one of us. I think he is going to help repair the broken relationship between Sabres fans + media and the team.

     

    I also don’t think this was just a nostalgia hire. Lindy was for sure one of the top veteran coaches available. I think a strong statistical argument could be made that he was the best veteran coach available of the top 3 big names (Ruff, Berube, Gallant or even Boudreau). Over the years, his teams have had better underlying stats in important categories vs. Berube and Gallant. He’s 4th or 5th all time in wins for NHL head coaches. He has at least one 50(+) win season with each team he’s coached. He’s gotten every team he’s coached to the playoffs, and he’s won playoff rounds. Berube has that one magical run to the Stanley cup, but otherwise has been mediocre. Gallant’s had success but his overall fit is more questionable. He’s not known for installing structure and I’ve read he relies on veteran players to lead, which Buffalo doesn’t really have.

     

    Of the coaches available, I think Ruff was the best fit. I don’t know if he’s the guy to win us a Stanley Cup. But the Sabres are nowhere near ready for a Cup run. Let’s get back to playoff contention first. I think at the very least Ruff can do that, and get these players playing the right way. 


    Kevyn, is that you?

    All Gunner's Draft Stuff.... 2024 Edition!!!

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    5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

    Interesting how such a substantive and timely post gets relatively little engagement. I guess such sober diligence doesn't exactly invite online debate.

     

    Because we're almost all WR crazy, I'm wondering what you see in Legette's ability to separate at the next level that so many others don't. I am drawn to him as a compelling projection with a compelling past. His physicality would be a welcome addition. But I often get told he isn't a separator, bottom line. How do you reconcile that disparity?

     

    Additionally, where do you see Franklin (who I think the Bills really like) and Worthy (who I think almost every NFL team likes)? 


    Pretty much. We have a 44-page thread about the Bills rumored to be trying to move up in the first to pick a WR. Anyone, their sister or their cat knows this to be a fact, but somehow it garners so much discussion. 

    Rumor: Bills trying aggressively to move up for a WR in round one

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    Posted · Edited by Saint Doug

    6 hours ago, BarleyNY said:

     

    That isn’t what he is saying. He’s saying that you draft players for what they can provide over at least the next four years, not just in season one. Basically draft for the long term, not short term. That’s what smart teams do. 


    The first sentence is saying you should not draft based on need, but you should get that in a FA. Then are you saying that you really didn’t “need” that player that has been providing their service for the last 4 years? It’s the first sentence that is the horrible take. You obviously need to draft based on need. Beane does it with his 1st/2nd round picks each year. Is he wrong?

    interesting WR scenario posed by a friend

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    Posted · Edited by Saint Doug

    7 hours ago, Ya Digg? said:

    Giving up a first round pick for a second round pick is NOT a good idea. You’re giving up a first rounder for a guy who is definitively a second round player. Has a team ever given up a first round for a second round?

     

    I like the rest of it, but you lost me at the trade (also not completely sold on Aiyuk) 


    Yeah, I’m not liking that either. Usually teams give up a pick in the same round, plus a sweetener. For example, for a 2nd, I would give up next year’s 2nd and a 4th or a 5th. 
     

    What I would rather do is give up a 4th or 5th (or whatever the value chart says) and our 2024 2nd to move up to the first few picks of the 2nd. Maybe the Giants would do it. 

    And we're on to.. Aiyuk?

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    11 minutes ago, Mojo44 said:

    Think for a second. What if he was drafted under the current regime. Regardless of what happened after he left here as damaged goods, it’s not inconceivable that he could have fulfilled his potential. I’m laughing back at you. And this is all besides the point anyway. The whole point of my posts on this matter is that this was 10 years ago and posters still use it as a cautionary tale to not trade up to get a wide receiver. It’s just silly reasoning.


    Because you just don’t get it. It doesn’t matter who drafted Sammy. The risk still remains. Josh Allen will be 28 when the season starts. You would like to blow our load on hope. Hope isn’t a sound strategy. What happens after 2-3 years when we realize the guy is a bust? That’s 2-3 more years of Josh down the drain.
     

    Due to Allen’s contract, this team has holes and will always need to plug them via the draft. If you want to mortgage our future, do it on proven players. Otherwise, draft a couple WR in the 1st and 2nd. Leave next year’s picks alone. 

    Why does Beane get a pass?

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    4 hours ago, Sharky7337 said:

    Von miller contract

    Dawson Knox contract

    Stephen diggs contract

    Defense line draft picks that never pan out

    Defense tackle signings that are not good enough

    No reliable pass rusher 

    Wyatt Teller give away

    Edmunds 

     

    Just curious why he is so highly regarded when these issues have come to roost fully


    Two words: Josh Allen

     

    He’d otherwise be middle of the road. 

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    And we're on to.. Aiyuk?

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    1 hour ago, Mojo44 said:

    That he didn’t blow up the league after he left does not in anyway diminish my point. Trading up for any position is “risky“. Using your logic, we should never have traded up to get Josh. You’re using a one off example that is not relevant. 


    Read again please. “It’s a cautionary illustration that trading a bunch of draft picks for a non-QB draft pick is very risky.”

    And we're on to.. Aiyuk?

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    1 hour ago, Gregg said:

     

    Proven players cost $$$. Do the Bills have the money to spend. I know they are trying to fix their cap situation, but I thought it would be next offseason where they will have money to spend not this one.


    It’s not my money, nor is it yours. As we have seen with this offseason, many things can be done. We all thought we would buried by the cap this offseason. That didn’t happen. Next, we thought Diggs could never be traded. It happened. Acquiring Auyik is likely possible. You would need to extend and restructure the contract to get the breathing room for this year and backload it to next year. 
     

    It’s just that if we draft a bust, we’ll be in trouble. Our FO has no track record for identifying great WRs. Allen is in his prime and want something more definitive. 

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