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Billy Zabka

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  1. 1 hour ago, B-Man said:

     

     

    He wanted out.

     

     

    re-writing history is a poor argument 

    That was Russ Brandon and John Murphy propaganda. He wanted to be paid after a position change. Simple as that.  The Bills didnt want to pay the going rate and dealt a future hall of fame LT just entering his prime for a very late 1st rd pick.  It was a horrible trade by a "GM" that didnt know what the hell he was doing.

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  2. The trade by Russ Brandon will go down as one of the worst in franchise history.  You simply don't trade a franchise LT that flashed Munoz level ability according to his Oline coach and was just entering his prime for a late 1st Rounder.  Peters will be a possible 1st ballot hall of Famer while Eric Wood was an oft injured above average to good Center that was forced to retire early.  The Bill's actually hit on that 28th pick and it was still a hose of a deal.

     

    Yes, Eugene Parker was a doosh, but the Bills weren't blameless as well as they moved Peters to Right Tackle and gave him a raise, but then immediately shifted him to Left Tackle and signed  a RT and Guard to huge money that dwarfed his.  Meanwhile Peters is playing All-Pro level LT while two stiffs playing lesser positions are making double and triple his salary.  Bottom line is Bills shouldn't have let him get away over money when 10 million a year was reasonable.  

    11 minutes ago, ChasBB said:

    For *****'s sake - please recall Jason Peters did NOT WANT TO BE IN BUFFALO.  What the hell was Buffalo brass to do?  They did what they could.

     

    Don't fall for the Russ Brandon John Murphy spin that they peddled after the trade. 

  3. 4 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

    Totally agree.  People love to rip Whaley but the new staff is doing it too.  It looks really bad when you could have stayed at 62 and drafted JuJu, who was really good for a school that has good track record for producing wrs.

     

    like you said, knock yourself out trading up for qbs.  But it makes little sense for other positions. Waste of capital.

     

    If I am not mistaken...Whaley was the GM during the Zay draft.

  4. I banged the drum for Watson predraft. He is a special player. Scouts get caught up in measurables and you get people like EJ Manuel taken in the 1st Round. Meanwhile guys like Russel Wilson, Watson, Carr and Bridgewater drop. It's why a guy like Josh Allen who has no accuracy or pocket presence will go early in next years draft and be a bust because he has great measurables.

  5. I'm going to have to disagree on the above.

     

    How was he stuck on his guy, EJ? After EJ he brought in Kyle Orton. The following year Tyrod Taylor. The next year he drafted Cardale, and last year Peterman.

     

    He put in a lot of effort and was not "stuck on EJ" IMHO.

     

    Never confuse effort with results.

     

    Whaley went into training camp with Manuel, Tuel, and Lewis as his QB's, not once which is bad, but twice...that is inexcusable.

     

    Kyle Orton was a journeyman QB brought in at the last minute after Marrone blew a gasket.

     

    Tyrod was not a hot commidity when brought in and all reports were Rex pushed hard for him.

     

    Peterman and Cardale were 4th and 5th round picks, one considered a major project and the other a quality backup candidate.

     

     

    When you consider what little effort and treasure Whaley put into replacing EJ and the fact Whaley was according to reports pushing EJ on the coaching candidates during the Rex hire, traded away the coach's choice for backup QB (Cassel) to elevate EJ, and allegedly pushed for EJ to start last year...I would say Whaley was clearly delusional to Manuel's ability and didn't do nearly enough to find a replacement when it was clear to just about everyone that EJ didn't have close to what it took to be a good NFL starter.

  6. I like Whaley , he gave his HCs the players that fit there system. He was good at finding veteran players who fit better here.

     

    Here in Buffalo changing HCs and schemes no way he could succeed .

     

    I agree changing D schemes hurt Whaley, but he was a weak drafter, poor at cap management, did not find franchise QB (in fact put in little effort as he stuck with his guy EJ), traded up far too often (1,1,2,4,4,4 for Watkins & Ragland is ridiculous). Whaley was a good pro scout, especially on the D side of the ball, but was overmatched as a GM.

  7. Cap Trouble and trading away picks to win now and the best he could do was ,500

     

    EJ and Cardale...

     

    Using a 1,1,2,4,4,4 on Watkins and Ragland...

     

    Horrific contracts...

     

    Moronic press conferences...

     

    Weak drafts...

     

    7 years in major role without playoffs...

     

    No I don't miss Whaley. Does it mean McBeane is any better? No, only time will tell.

  8. LOTS of people on this board are or were saying Whaley was worthless.

     

    In a day that draft picks are gold due to the new rookie wage scale, it is inexcusable to use a 1, 1, 2, 4, 4, 4 on a WR (in the best WR draft in recent memory) and a 3-4 LB. Also factor in drafting only EJ and Cardale at the QB position, and getting the team in cap problems despite zero success, and a slew of other issues...and it's obvious Whaley was in way over his head as a GM.

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