Chilly

Posting this from the built-in USB tethering on my Captivate.

GG, you may want to check out Touchdown if you're using ActiveSync. A buddy of mine that wasn't happy with the built-in ActiveSync capabilities is using that and loves it http://www.nitrodesk.com/dk_touchdownFeatures.aspx

I like that comparison, I do think it fits well.

That sucks on the shutdowns. I wonder if there are a number of defective units out there.

I haven't had the random shutdowns either. I don't think mine's restarted since I got it. I agree on the power consumption, it drains fast. It helped me tremendously to turn off bluetooth/wifi when I wasn't using it, but when I'm actively using the phone the battery does get killed.

I've only noticed a slowdown once in a while - when I've got multiple tasks open doing stuff. Are you leaving apps open? A task killer app helps with that if you are running apps that don't allow you to fully quit them (most apps). Android is a different mindset. It can do pretty much anything you want, but the functionality isn't all built by Google straight into the OS. I had no problems finding and using the free DoubleTwist software to manage syncing my media to my Captivate: http://www.doubletwist.com/dt/Home/Index.dt It was literally as simple as install software on computer, plug my captivate in, hit Sync. Personally, I much prefer this mindset, as it doesn't lock you into using one vendor's products. If I decided I wanted to use Salling Media Sync for Android instead, no problem! Easy to use that to Sync it up. Whereas software companies have problems getting media sync for iPhones to consistently work (Apple's added encryption to stop some of it, others require specific iPhone firmwares, etc). For photos, as soon as I plugged my Captivate in, iPhoto popped up, recognized the device, and showed me all the pictures on it. I have it hooked up via Activesync to Exchange, and contacts/calendar/email works fine. No complaints here on the enterprise email front, although I will enjoy GAL lookups in Android 2.2. I've used the iPhone extensively for email, and I prefer the Captivate's interface for it. There's also some pretty cool free email apps like K9-Mail that support push IMAP and lots of cool features. K-9 Mail was written by some people at Google as part of their 20% and is free.

LOL, I'm reading and typing this post from my samsung captivate, the att version of the galaxy s. I have to agreewith you, this phone is amazing. I love swype, its so easy to type on. I was skeptical on switching from my bold 2, with a physical keyboard. Swype sold me on it. I love everything about.only thing I really wish it had was a camera flash, but I can love without it. Can't wait to see how android 2.2 is. Supposed to be even faster than this. Anyway big thumbs up from me. So glad I switched from my blackberry to this.

I installed the SiriusXM app last night using it. Worked with no probs!

http://www.androidcentral.com/sideload-and...-wonder-machine

Who uses a phone for phone calls anymore?

I just bought a Samsung Captivate last night, couldn't pass up $350 non-contract pricing. Amazing phone!

http://apple.slashdot.org/story/10/07/21/2...one-Competitors

Ah, gotcha. I misunderstood.

Fez, you guys don't use BES? Gross.

It's hard to win these types of arguments, as there's no real study done on them. I work for a technology company, specifically in the email hosting division (so you can imagine all the mobile devices we get), and the amount of Blackberries we have hooked up to BES, the amount of customers we support that own Blackberries (even with BIS), the amount of visibility that Blackberries get, is a ton higher than all the activesync/iPhone services we provide. Yes, Apple has the TV ads, but even my girlfriend's mom (who isn't tech savvy at ALL and owned a 5+ year old flip phone) when she was looking for a new phone immediately thought of Blackberries to start, and not the iPhone, because so many people at her office use Blackberries. What we're arguing right now is your anecdotal evidence vs my anecdotal evidence. It's an argument neither of us can win, unless some studies have been done on it that I'm not aware of.

I agree that Apple is a top player (#2 in fact) in the US smartphone market, but I disagree that they are one on the overall worldwide phone market. In any event, perhaps I didn't state my original point clearly. I was more trying to say that if this is simply a case of people piling on top of Apple for being the top dog, when all phone manufacturers experience this problem, then why hasn't RIM, who has more marketshare in both the US & the world, and who apparently also experiences the problem (according to Apple & posts earlier), been raked over the coals? One option is it could be that the iPhone is truly #1 in sales, and above RIM's phone lineup. I haven't seen any numbers that back that up, though. Especially when RIM is widely considered to be the leader in US smartphones, with Apple #2, by just about everyone. That's why I was trying to do the "RIM vs Apple" thing. I think the argument is invalid if you say that RIM is experiencing the same thing, but they aren't getting the heat for it because they aren't the top dog.

lol. You call my numbers cute, then post numbers based on number of cases sold by a single sweedish case manufacturer? From http://www.mobilecreek.com/the-top-10-sell...-for-june-2010/ Look at overall marketshare. Apple isn't close. If the iPhone was one of the best selling phones in the world, they'd have a *lot* more marketshare than they do. They'd be up near RIM's numbers.

I agree, which is why I pointed to RIM's numbers in my comment. Comparing RIM's marketshare to Apple's marketshare gives as close of a picture as possible at this point.

I agree, it was a great response by Apple. From a customer service perspective, there's nothing more you can really do.

Notice how you're lumping in all the iPhone models together when you're talking about the iPhone, but you're still trying to make an argument about "individual phones"? Individual phones are really the iPhone 4G, iPhone 3GS, iPhone 3G, etc, not the "iPhone". Look at the comment about "The iPhone is the most recognizable smartphone in the US right now." Are you talking about the iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS, etc? Really, you're talking about the device form factor and the OS, *not* individual phones, when you're trying to make the point to back up the top dog. That's why I was using RIM's numbers as a whole as a good comparison: You're comparing form factor & OS. It's the same with RIM's devices. The form factor & OS are instantly recognizable, and have way more market share.

And it seems like you're willing to extract your personal use case to everyone else. Right now, I think there are a few things that are proven, and a lot of anecdotal evidence. Here's what it seems like we do know: 1.) The way a human holds a phone can interfere with the way the antenna operates 2.) FCC rules regulations cause antennas to be placed in a non-ideal spot 3.) External antennas can exaggerate the effect of the way a person holds the phone on the antenna 4.) Not every person holds the phone that way 5.) Some (unspecified) number of people are reporting problems 6.) Some (unspecified) number of people are using the phone without any issue What we don't know: 1.) The number of people actually having problems 2.) That everyone having problems is solely because of the antenna (I'm inclined to believe signal strength has a lot to do with it) 3.) How this number compares to previous iPhone designs 4.) How this number compares to phones made by other manufacturers 5.) Of the people having these problems, how big of an impact it actually is on their phone satisfaction Unfortunately, without all that data, it's hard to have an informed opinion. I'd think that the only group that has enough of that data to know is Apple, but it's hard to judge from their behavior as a lot of it could just be PR based. Personally, I feel like a large number of iPhone 4 owners are extrapolating their experience for the entire group, potentially underestimating the impact of it. I also think that the issue is a lot more complicated than the way the media is framing it (surprise), so it's hard to get a real understanding of the impact of the problem. I do think there is a design flaw, but the impact of that flaw is so cloudy at this point, I have no idea what it is. BTW, I'm typing this from my MacBook Pro

He implicated *every* single RIM phone they've made since the Bold, which they released in November, 2008. If you're looking at popular phones that potentially had the problem over that long of a timeframe, then the only easily available measure that I know of is current market share. This means that while looking at it as an individual phone from an Apple perspective might make sense, it doesn't when you start comparing it to other manufacturers, who release more phones, more often. It's an Apple to oranges comparison to take it at the individual-phone level.

Yup. There's a reason why the iPhone is taking the heat - it's more pronounced due to the antenna being on the outside. There also hasn't been a reaction by RIM's, Samsung's, etc's customers complaining about their particular phones. If that were to happen, the tech sites would be all over it (they haven't been treating RIM any nicer lately than they've treated Apple).

Worldwide market share: 1.) Nokia (35%) 2.) Samsung (20.6%) 3.) LG (8.6%) 4.) RIM (3.4%) 5.) Sony Ericsson (3.1%) 6.) Motorola (3.0%) 7.) Apple (2.7%) 8.) ZTE (1.7%) 9.) G-Five (1.4%) 10.) Huawei (1.3%) If it happens on RIM's phones (and flagship Blackberry Bold 2), like you say it does, and people like to "throw stones at the top dog", then why isn't RIM taking more heat for it? Or Samsung, with their 20.6% market share?

Define "top dog"