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1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

I mean just read your posts in this thread, bro. You are not helping your cause.

Your mind has been made. Nothing I can do about to change it. I will say this though if the roles were reversed you wouldn’t be nearly as understanding as I am. I’ve stated several times I don’t mind a one state solution and that one state can be called Israel. I have recognized their right to exist. I have condemned Oct 7th. I have condemned Hamas. I appreciate all the fine Jewish people out there that are standing side by side with those of us that crave peace and equality. 
 

I’ve said all that several times here. 
 

My father and mother left after the war in 67 and weren’t allowed to be citizens of the place they grew up in. They needed a visa to enter a country they were raised in! Let that sink in! Would you be as understanding and sympathetic if the roles were reversed?

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1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

Yep.

They request the aid.

In most cases it's for very specific items.

The headline number is total $, but that is mostly poured into buying US weapons, made in the US by US workers.

You know, the weapons that actually work.

 

Not all, but most of the aid is thus directed., and it is good.

I guess we disagree on that then. Money is money. It’s spent. It’s gone. It’s not being used on us. That money could’ve been used elsewhere and it still would have remained here. You can’t sugarcoat $95b when our infrastructure needs work, the borders, healthcare, housing costs, inflation, etc Those weapons have to be replaced, too. And I bet those weapons are overpriced too. Good for the weapons manufacturers and their stock holders. F the average joe. 

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4 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

Almost all of it is going within our borders.

Can you expand on this? I know I can look it up for myself so I understand if you don’t want to. Are we buying our own weapons and giving it to them with that money? If that’s the case that’s not good either. 

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2 hours ago, sherpa said:

 

I didn't almost go, I went.

It was Iran, who is behind all this and should have been dealt with long ago.

We have a lot to do with what Iran became… no? 

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32 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

If you're talking to me, I did go "over there to fight."

Thankfully, it didn't happen, although none of this past twenty five years may have occurred if we did fight then.

 

By the way, your responses here indicated by your last two sentences quoted above, suggest that  you might not be as brilliant as you claim.

Ain’t that something?. My response to you is under your quote and you’re asking me if I told you to go over there and fight? Lol. Isn't the response always under the quote, genius? 
 

I never claimed to be brilliant, anyways. 

 

Out of curiosity where did you almost go to fight? Palestine? Poor little Palestine. No army, navy, Air Force. That place? Lol 

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27 minutes ago, Tenhigh said:

So when are you heading over to join in the fight?

For someone raising their kids to not hate anyone you sure seem to do a lot of it yourself. 

What I can’t hate a government and their policies? Really? Come on!! 

See here we go again with that BS. Who did I hate? Tell me? Because it isn’t the Jewish people that I hate. It isn’t Israelis that I hate. Who? Tell me. I’d love to hear it. 

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Man y’all are straight clowns. When are YOU going over there to fight? 
 

You guys don’t answer my questions and I’m the joke? I leave you speechless. 

1 hour ago, sherpa said:

 

You haven't answered the question, which I specified as "where it ends up."

 

That's OK.

I thought I ***** did. I mentioned which countries is getting it and how much. I really dgaf how they spend it. I just know it’s not staying here. 

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7 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

Since we're all so stupid and you so informed, care to tell us where that 95B is going?

Where it ends up?

The about $60b to Ukraine, 25 to Israel and 8 to Taiwan off the top of my head 

 

I know it’s not going to our own borders 

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2 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

welcome to my idiot list buh bye. mental midget karen.

Lol with a handle like his it makes sense lol 

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3 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

I don't have to listen to you and your bias. Go cry somewhere else.

Open borders isn't a right wing problem, try again.

You really don’t think outside the box huh. They could’ve and should’ve rejected that ridiculous bill handing $95b to foreign countries and demanded we secure our border first! The right wing is responsible for this just as much. No foreign aid until we take care of our own issues #AmericaLast. Now that dimwit Biden wants to increase the capital gains inheritance tax to 47%. ***** off Biden you senile B word 

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5 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Conservatives are skeptical of everything mainstream media tells them except about Israel/Palestine and a certain European nation between 1933 and 1945.

Exactly. There isn’t any blue or red when it comes to them it’s just purple. The one thing they all agree on. Why? Who knows? Maybe some Epstein island ***** or maybe it’s all that lobbyist money paying off both sides. How this is legal is beyond me. We’ve been infiltrated. Netanyahu on US television talking about protests that are happening in our country! This is not ok! He fails to mention plenty of those people protesting are JEWISH. He can do that so he can claim antisemitism. He sits there and lies to our faces and the sheep just eat it up. What the f happened to the US??? 

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You see this is the problem with you right wing government supporters. You’re backing a regime that’s the enemy of freedom. Conservatives? They’re running through our tax dollars for foreign nations while leaving our borders wide open and you all sit there like the cucks you are!! They’re protecting other people’s borders while ignoring our own! And this is what you support?!! Have your heads examined. 

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5 hours ago, Unforgiven said:

hmm I seem to remember another group of people who hated Jews with a passion...

 

Oh stfu with that bull####. Through it all I raise my kids to not hate anyone just so I can come here and listen to this *****? Plenty of Jewish people are protesting alongside the pro Palestinians you moron. Explain that!!!! And that right wing government doesn’t represent Jewish people. 

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

Sorry but you lost any sympathy with what happened on 10/7.  But I'm sure that what happened that day is all lies and everything I mentioned is as well.

You never had any sympathy to begin with. You think it’s totally fine for Palestinian people to live their one and only life in an open air prison. And you want them to like it too. Oct 7th was horrible but it’s been Oct 7th everyday for 200 days in Gaza but you don’t care because you’re a horrible, despicable human being without a heart. 
 

For all you bigots here you need to realize one very simple thing and that is Israel needs to give equal rights to every single person in Israel. No more of this West Bank and Gaza *****. Make it one state. Hyphenate that B word if you have to. Or it can just be called Israel and let MFers see the beach for once. 

2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

When they tell you who they are and what they want, listen 

 

 

 

Higher learning full of brown shirts cosplaying the  red guard 

the people that live there, that I’ve spoken to, only want 67 borders 

5 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

If I had to choose Isreal or Palestine, I'm never choosing Palestine. Not sorry either. Take your crusade somewhere else. Hamas is a vile presence, and they were elected.

No I won’t take my crusade somewhere else. I don’t have to listen to you. I hope we lose the US one day soon so you will finally understand what it feels like to be Palestinian. At what length would you go to fight for your country to get it back if you lost it? And Israel is equally as vile as Hamas. You can’t see that you’re just a ***** bigot. Netanyahu the ***** criminal was elected too you, dumb B word.

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On 4/19/2024 at 9:57 AM, Doc said:

If you want to call what Israel is doing to Gaza "genocide," you can blame Hamas for that. That's what happens when you use your own people as human shields, hide in schools/hospitals, etc. 

attaboy! That’s a good doggy. 

Honestly man you Israel supporters are some of the dumbest MFers to ever walk the face of the earth. How do you function day to day? Do your toilets come with an owners manual? How about your door knobs? I can see why there’s a warning label on plastic bags. 

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Bye bye to another $95b. We deserve every ounce of ***** that’s coming our way. SMH. 

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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRwJhgQX/
 

Many will have to come to grips with this on this site. 

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7 hours ago, ComradeKayAdams said:

 

Wow! So 24 hours later and no responses from the pro-Zionism crowd?? Not even a perfunctory eyeroll or mock laugh emoji reaction? THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING. Moving on…

 

Let me address the “intent” component of Israel’s genocide. Political analysts fixate on the overly retributive self-defense explanation, as well as an explanation imbued with religious directives. Both are obviously true to some extent, but in my opinion Jared Diamond-esque geopolitical explanations are far more instructive. Israel is a modern-day case study in settler colonialism, so this is more about geography and the age-old motivations of land grabs and natural resource seizures for the purposes of wealth and power aggregation. In three ways this appears to be true:

 

1. Gaza: It’s at a strategically situated position on the Mediterranean, with potential for a far greater seaport, prime coastal real estate development, and untapped offshore natural gas fields. Ethnic cleansing removes the indigenous people in the way; genocide thins the herd and expedites the cleansing.

 

2. West Bank: Its western geographical limit is as few as 12 miles away from the Mediterranean Sea coast at Tel Aviv. The western frontier of the West Bank also features a bunch of hills perched above the lowland bottleneck of Israel’s middle section. A military strategist might argue that this is a natural military “choke point,” and that losing sudden control of it would easily cut off Israel’s two halves from each other. This is likely a big reason why Israel is accelerating its illegal settlement encroachment into this particular area of the West Bank, while the slaughtering continues unabated in Gaza.

 

3. Negev Desert: It’s an extensive region of land that still remains significantly underutilized, in terms of desert agriculture methods and natural resource extraction. Israel understands that a two-state solution with a non-contiguous Palestine (or a non-contiguous Israel) can’t relieve certain levels of tension (partly due to national transportation logistics), and that contiguity may likely require relinquishing this connecting region between Gaza and the West Bank (a region, by the way, that contains Israel’s critical nuclear weapons facility near Dimona). It’s in Israel’s interest, therefore, to remove Gaza from the entire equation of negotiation.

 

Summary: I think geopolitical explanations are more fundamental. Retributive self-defense and religion are what settler colonialists tell others and each other to justify their horrible behavior.

 

Thoughts?? Am I right? Wrong? Can I at least get an eyeroll acknowledgment, pretty please?! Thank you.

My favorite is the vomit emoji. The walking dead around here love using that one along with the eyeroll emoji lol 

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

On Israel itself?  Yeah it was.  Israel took out a terrorist at a terrorist facility, er, embassy in Syria.  If Israel decided to attack inside Iran, I wouldn't be surprised.

They will respond and it won’t be pretty. Iran messed up. 

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I love how they’re calling it an unprovoked attack. I also love it how their social media mouth pieces are going around saying the Sydney stabbing were done by an Islamist and was a terrorist attack even though he wasn’t. Lying is like breathing to these MFers. 
 

In the west bank the settlers are burning down homes, murdering Palestinians and even killing their livestock. Not a peep from you zios on here. You’re all morally bankrupt. Fake ass MFers. 

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On 4/12/2024 at 12:50 PM, Tiberius said:

Ya, chatting with you makes me feel like a ten year old, so that's on you.

 

I agree, Hamas is responsible, still, bombing the hell out of the area where you know your people are can and probably did lead to the deaths of the hostages

 

I mean, listen, you argued that Israel did not target the aid convoy on purpose--ya right--so if they make mistakes like that, those 2000 pound bombs could kill hostages

 

Are you still waiting on the investigation of that?

Do yourself a favor and don’t even bother. This dude you’re talking to is a boot-licker. He’s biased and can’t be reasoned with. Let’s just put it this way… if someone kidnapped my kids I wouldn’t try to get them back by blowing everything up and starving them. There’s some responsibility on their shoulders for the deaths without question. Hamas shouldn’t have taken hostages in the first place but it’s no surprise many have died under their watch. Many of the hostages family members blame Israel too. He’ll ignore this last point too. 

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My family members in Palestine seen the rocket attacks overhead all night. This is horrible. Iran made a terrible mistake. They have nothing on the US, Israel and Jordan. They will regret this. 

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26 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I have no concern and no interest in silly quotes from people.

Israel has had nuclear weapons for decades.

They have not used them.

They are not trying to overthrow a nation.

They have not sworn to eliminate a neighbor.

They are not actively shipping scores of weapons to moron surrogates to attack civilian populations.

They are not disrupting shipping in international waters, and preventing weapons being shipped to Hezbollah for attacks on Israeli citizens is not a valid argument.

 

Iran is doing all of this, including attacking US combatants, and our administration is doing nothing to prevent the attacks.

Responding to them, at incredible expense, is not preventing them, and a senseless posture.

 

It is quite likely that something is going to cross the line. Maybe it’s the Iranian response to the assassination of Iranian weapons dealers in Damascus, whatever that might be.

Wow. Silly quotes. As if he made fart jokes. 
“They’re not trying to overthrow a nation” lol. Nah just Palestine since 1948. 
“They have not sworn to overthrow a nation”. Lol lukid’s slogan says that precisely what they want to do 

“They are not actively shipping scores of weapons to moron surrogates to attack civilian populations.”. Nah the US is doing that for them 

“They are not disrupting shipping in international waters, and preventing weapons being shipped to Hezbollah for attacks on Israeli citizens is not a valid argument.”. Nah they’re just blockading good from entering an exiting Gaza for the last 16 years. 

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10 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

I have no issue with Israel having them.

I am aware of when they achieved that capability and aware of the restraint since then.

 

Israel was attacked on the first day of its existence by a multi nation consortium.

They have been threatened and attacked ever since.

 

They are not going to be eliminated without massive response.

 

That is the reality and I have no problem with that posture.

 

On the other hand, I have serious concerns about a lunatic regime that does little other than export death and terror.

I wish the majority of sane people there would get rid of their scourge, but the don't seem willing.

Additionally, there seems to be pretty good evidence that the rogue group with significant weapon access, the IRGC, is somewhat uncontrolled.

 

This is going to get hotter.

The Biden admin should authorize the US Navy to sink the Iranian ship that is providing targeting information, and they should sink it yesterday.

Daily defending against attacks on shipping is a foolish posture, and further encourages them.

Two can play that game. Netanyahu’s far right government is full of “lunatics”, like you put it, as well. It isn’t just Iran. Some of them have been heard saying they should use nukes on Gaza. 

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29 minutes ago, sherpa said:

 

You are quite incorrect.

I am very familiar with the Samson option, to a degree of what I think they actually possess, and their reluctance to use it, although they were a day away from moving in that direction under Golda Meir.

So.....You're wrong.

I said “I guess”, because logic dictates if you knew then you shouldn’t have the stance you have regarding Israel having nukes. Here is a country more than willing to use them and you’re ok with it. So yes it’s hypocritical. 
 

And let us not forget how they obtained those nukes in the first place. They most likely obtained that knowledge from the people that made ours and that method was most likely illegal. 
 

With allies like that who needs enemies?