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  1. Greg Cosell likes Mitchell a lot. I trust his opinion. I'd be happy with him to add an explosive element to the Offense.


    Is Legette's 4.39 2nd time official? If so, he just (re)made millions of dollars his first time lost him.

  2. 59 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

    Updating my spreadsheet as WR measurements come in: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/12pCgsJPa9X-jjNMOZ_exJTAEfxmZOeETzEm8SNkuXec/edit#gid=1244172747

     

    Differences compared to how some of the guys we might be targeting were listed:

    • AD Mitchell came in at 6'2.25" and 205 vs. listed 6'4" and 196
    • Xavier Worthy came in at 5'11.25" and 165 vs. listed 6'1" and 172
    • Troy Franklin came in at 6'1.88" and 176 vs. listed 6'3" and 187
    • Brian Thomas came in at 6'2.88" and 209 vs. listed 6'4" and 205

    Holy crapy. This is almost as bad as the dating sites where (I'm told, not that there's anything wrong with that) that all the guys lie about their height (every guy claims to be at least 6' even if he's 5'8") and half the women, at least my age, subtract 5 years from their age.

    Shame, shame, shame...

  3. Question with an example please:

    If a void year has a $3 million cap hit an the player signs with the same team for $7 million for one year, that player is technically earning $10 million ($3 million void year bonus money plus $7 million new money) for that year, right? 

     

    But if that player signs with a new team for $10 million, he still gets the $3 million void-year money from his old team plus the new $10 million, right? So he's actually getting $13 million that year instead of just the $10 million.

     

    If my understanding is correct, the player is richer if he signs with a new team for the same (or relatively close to the same) money. 

     

    So I think it's in the player's best financial interest not to "settle" for a new contract with void-year money if another team is going to pay around the same for that new period.

     

    Correct?

  4. 30 minutes ago, K-9 said:

    Don’t care if this guy proves to be the greatest CB prospect in history, Beane should stay as far away as possible.

     

     

    This is both hilarious and sad.

    It's like a young adult saying, "I don't believe in gravity."

    Also an indictment of the athlete-scholarship system where total idiots not only get into a school but often emerge with a university degree.

  5. I hope I'm wrong but I'm thinking (largely due to the Chiefs but for other reasons as well) that the Bills will never be a bona fide dynasty with Allen but will be a very good team consistently with maybe one championship season over his career. 

     

    I think for the term "dynasty" to apply, that means going to the SuperBowl multiple years in a row, and winning at least one if not more) and I don't see that.

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  6. Letting Douglas go makes no sense to me.


    So you save $10 million. And who's gonna be our number 1 or number 2 corner? And what do you pay him?

    You think you're gonna get a proven starter at corner for $5 million?

     

    No? So we draft that guy? And we pin our hopes on a rookie being a starter? No way.

  7. 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    I have said that for me it depends on where they really feel Stef is at. If they think he is truly on the downslope I'd be willing to commit $5-7m AAV for 2 year (maybe with a void year to spread some cash out). 

     

    If they think Stef is still elite I'd pass on a mid range vet and just draft two from this clsss.

    Have you heard anything from your contacts about what the organization is feeling on Steph's ability now? Or nothing yet?

  8. 2 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

     

    It is tight. I did my workings out in another thread recently and got to about $20m, but that was on the assumed $242m cap and included cutting Von (June 1) and Mitch Morse. I can now see a route to keeping Mitch and either a restructure adding a void year or even possibly a paycut (I think Mitch will only carry on playing in Buffalo, if it isn't here I guess he retires so maybe he'd be willing to take a bit less than the $6.8m base salary he is due i.e. the bit of the contract that isn't guaranteed).

     

    So on the $255m cap.... I think you can do it. But it doesn't leave a lot of space for signings and aside from a 1T and a safety where I think they will need to bring in at least starting calibre players (or retain Jones at 1T) they will need to sign a handful of other vet minimum types to provide some depth competition going into camp. 

    WIth the tight space we have, you say bring in a 1tech and a safety...

     

    Where does a vet WR rate in terms of a free agent signing? How much would you limit the spending on a vet WR and who do you think that lands us?

  9. 1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

    Right, the future guarantee that no one would want to pay travelled with the player not an already paid sum that hasn’t been accounted for 


    the inverse wouldn’t happen as it’s both worse for the player and the team 

    Sure, it's bad for a player, but if signing bonus was changed to salary, a team could cut the player and not be hit with dead money. That would be positive for a team.

     

    But I don't think it's allowable. And the only reason for a player to agree, theoretically, is if the player wanted out so bad, he was willing to leave behind money to make himself tradeable and not give his current team a huge hit with dead money.
     

  10. First, I think it's useful to define where "dead money" comes from:
     

    Dead money exists because of how salary cap accounting rules operate. Signing bonuses, option bonuses and certain roster bonuses are prorated or spread out evenly over the life of a contract for a maximum of five years. When a player is released, traded or retires, the remaining proration of these salary components immediately accelerate onto his team's current salary cap. 

     

    To use a simple example and only using signing bonus as the only bonus, if a player signs a 5-year deal for 15 million per year ($75 million over 5 years) and a signing bonus of $20 million ($4 million per year)...

     

    If that player is no longer wanted after two seasons, the team can escape paying the player's base salary $15 million a year, but the signing bonus for every three remaining years accelerates at once and there is then 3 year's of "dead money," $12 million dollars.

     

    So, as far as I know, midway through a deal, teams will convert base salary into signing bonus (thus spreading out the big base salary hit for a season when money is tight) but that money is equally distributed over the remaining years of the contract as bonus. The Bills have done that a fair bit lately.

     

    But... I can't remember a situation where the INVERSE happens: the signing bonus is converted to salary which can be avoided. I think that's either your question or related to it: can a team escape the "dead money" hit of remaining signing bonus.

    I don't think so. I don't even think if a player was willing if the CBA would allow for it. Possibly because bonus is "paid" immediately but just for accounting purposes it's spread over a deal. Maybe the concept is you can't take back a signing bonus that was paid upon signing and in the past. If not the simple reason of you can't take back something that was paid all at once in the past, I'm not sure why.

     

    I'm about 85% sure of this. Someone correct me if I'm wrong please.

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  11. Not news we can use but nice and interesting to see. I don't hear Jim's name come up in this convo outside of some fans here.

     

    "To me, [Joe] Montana and [John] Elway, Jim Kelly -- those guys, all those guys," Marino told Sports Illustrated before Super Bowl LVIII. "Patrick Mahomes, he's going to be considered one of the best ever, too. You got Tom Brady, you got a lot of guys. So, there's a lot to pick from there."

    https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/dolphins-legend-dan-marino-lists-his-greatest-nfl-quarterbacks-of-all-time-one-surprising-name-makes-the-cut/#:~:text="To me%2C [Joe],of the best ever%2C too.

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  12. 7 hours ago, Punching Bag said:

     

    Original article had more info.

    https://www.tsn.ca/rick-westhead-argos-qb-kelly-accused-of-harassment-in-wrongful-dismissal-lawsuit-1.2079719

     

     

     

    Canadian coaches are also paid a lot less in Canada just like players.  

     

     

    This was for first female coach in CFL which there were a number of articles on Dana Beattie, the Toronto Argonauts Assistant Strength & Conditioning Coach, who joined the organization in 2018 according my article database.  There were similar articles on first NFL coach and first NFL referee.  Most of the articles previously indexed have been locked down or removed although I do not know reason.  If I have time I will check wayback.

     

    Good points about lower salaries but — and I'm not an employment lawyer — I'm guessing some enterprising US lawyers would bake in a million dollars for suffering and anguish, etc. 

  13. 12 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

    I'd rather have a high ceiling veteran free agent in place and then have a top WR option end up at pick #28 than to risk not getting one at all because I wanted to try to patch holes on defense first.

     

    For sure, that's ideal... but given our cap situation what do you spend on that top WR option? And, no, I'm not a "let's fix the D first because we have Josh Allen" guy. It's criminal how we've ignored boundary receivers with high upsides.

    But how much would you spend this season given where we are at and the holes on D?

     

    And question 2: Do you sign the "safe" guy with a history of production but without the really high upside? Or do you sign the high-upside guy without the production? We don't have the $20 million to do both.

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