MafiaMio
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9 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:
He just isn’t a good talent evaluator. Pro or college. Brady made Belichick, not the other way around.
Been trying to say this for years. People here just can't handle the fact that Brady owned us and he's not playing for our team so they give Belichick all the credit, because we like to believe our guy can do the same all those years
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3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
He has a longer longevity than most .. I'm not saying he's not in the conversation for greatest but
Peyton Manning at his best versus Tom Brady at his best.. Peyton Manning was a better quarterback and it's not cuz I hate Tom Brady
Brady has played on much better teams and has been more clutch but I don't think he's better than Manning at his best
Manning had the 2013 Broncos and won a super bowl.... oh wait
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3 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
I'm willing to bet Brady has a lot but guaranteed it's not unanimous .. they're still lot of old timers who swear by Montana and Golden arms Johnny U
Tom Brady is a three-time 1st team All-Pro, Peyton Manning is a seven-time 1st team All pro
It is absolutely not unanimous who the better quarterback was.. Tom Brady's been more clutch on better teams, for sure
That does not equate to being a better pure quarterback to which Peyton Manning has a claim to being the best ever
Tom Brady is the most clutch playoff quarterback absolutely... But he has had great teams and the greatest coaching around him... Everybody recognizes belichick's greatness as one of the goats too
The only people who hold off are those with personal biases against him, whether they believe their qb is better (Colts, Packers, 49ers), or fans of teams he owned in 20 years who just hate him no matter what he does (Bills are here). Whether you admit it or not, your personal bias is blinding you. Check out the unanimous selections for NFL 100, all decade teams etc. Brady has been unanimous many, many times. Don't say you know more about football than any of them.
Honestly, it's just better for us as fans to respect what he's doing now because it ain't happening again. If there's a trajectory we would want Josh Allen to follow, it's Brady's - let's be real here.
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15 hours ago, Buffalo716 said:
Lmao ok
Live in the past, Allen is coming for all of Brady's accolades
Live in the past? We own the Pats now (because he left) but we didn't beat Brady recently in a game that mattered. Until we can turn the tables on him we can't slander him. He owns our franchise. Why are y'all so sensitive, it's the ***** truth. Homer fans are annoying. We should all just be happy Allen gets recognition as a top qb.
And as much as I would love Allen to achieve as much as Brady, realistically speaking it isn't happening. Ask Rodgers lol.
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32 minutes ago, without a drought said:
Brady is no higher than 4th.
Bold thing to say to our owner but ok
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15 hours ago, May Day 10 said:
They weren't, but he was pedestrian that season and his age limitations showed. Their defense carried them and Brady threw a walk-off pick-6. Then he writes his ticket into an all star team on offense and he is great.
It's not a "brady sucks" post. It's remarkable he is doing what he is doing. If I'm the Carolina Panthers and I get a choice of any QB for a 1-year contract for this coming season, Brady wouldn't be in my top-5.
Eh considering Brady is a FA magnet and better GM than most actual GMs he's definitely top 5. Plus he was elite last season. Led the league in pretty much everything
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On 4/12/2022 at 1:07 PM, May Day 10 said:
Yeah, Id take someone to task for saying that. Especially considering the year-off, possible/probable suspension and potential distractions.
Rodgers and Mahomes, no problem both have had seasons recently exceeding Allen and no reason to think they cant/wont do it again.
Hebert and Burrow are interesting and I could see a strong case, although Id like to see another season for each as well as Hebert carry the Chargers into the postseason.
Id take Allen over Brady without much hesitation. IMO, 2019-2022 Brady needs a stacked offense and team to succeed to mask his physical limitations. Allen, while he is on a really good team, is just so much stronger and faster than Brady at this point I wouldnt 'choose' Brady for the 2022 season.
TIL 2019 Brady had a stacked offense
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13 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said:
The Patriots came close to the #1 seed in the AFC this season with Mac freaking Jones at QB.
We're the better team, but they are not a joke.
Pats caught a lot of breaks with that 7 win streak.
Look, Belichick is good enough to win you regular season games but without a good roster and in today's game, an elite qb, he ain't pushing the Pats through the playoffs. The league has changed. The 2010s dynasty was because he had that elite qb to help him out. Pats are in limbo unless he goes on a deep playoff run without that elite qb.
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1 hour ago, TheFunPolice said:
So they don't count?
Really?
Peyton went to 4, won 2 with 2 different teams and it's "yeah but he couldn't win big games"
What are you talking about, Peyton is in the GOAT conversation. 3 super bowls is absolutely hard to get. Ask Rodgers
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3 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:
What about Belichick's 2 SB titles with the Giants?
I, like many sports fans, sat there at the end of this year's NE/TB game wide eyed as Nick Folk's kick sailed wide of the upright and said almost in awe "so it was all Brady..."
Without Belichick, Brady wins 2-3 Super Bowls his entire career. Now every player in the league will take league minimum to play with Grandpa so he can have a Pro Bowl roster playing for peanuts, but that doesn't happen without all the NE success.
you're saying like 2-3 super bowls is a bad thing. That would still put you in GOAT convos. I hope Josh gets that many. -
Pats are nothing without Brady. Hope he tampers his expectations this year. I'm not sure Belichick is capable of winning a playoff game with Mac Jones as his qb lol.
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3 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:
Well Brady would have WRs - Hill/Waddle/Parker, RBs Edmonds/Mosert/Gaskin, TEs Gesicki/Gronk.
For a QB that many think has been pretty much a game manager, he could have the opportunity to put up some pinball type numbers.
? He has put up pinball numbers in NE and Tampa. He's lapping the field at this point. makes no sense for him to go to miami for this lol.
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1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Agree on the top 2. I think Chargers have a case for 2, but I am not sure their defensive signings are enough, that defense was bad on 3 levels last year.
I think I have to get the Chargers here somewhere in the top 4.
Couple of things, Cincinnati made the SB last year, but doesn't mean they are a top 6 team this year. I think they regress...that being said, they can still win their division and be at least the 4th seed, but this isnt a playoff positional list, this is best team list. And right now, I don't have them in the top 6. They had a lot..and I mean a lot...of success throwing 50/50 balls, prayer balls, etc. Guys made some insane plays at a high success rater for the risks of those plays. And thats just not sustainable way to consistently win in the NFL. So while, I fully acknowledge they could still win their division, I don't think they are one of the 6 best teams in the AFC right now personally.
I think people are also writing the Chiefs off way too fast. Go back and check the stat lines last year on Hill...big game, then like 5-7 duds in a row of like 30 yards. This is a WR rich draft with an elite QB in KC. You can bet they will take at least one WR early, and when you have a guy like Mahomes, that WR may come in and make a big impact early.
Miami over achieved under a great coach...I think they regress this year even after adding Hill.
Oakland is better than people are giving them credit for right now and I think will surprise some people this year. They have a good defense and added Chandler Jones to it. Their offense is intriguing with addition of a big time guy like Adams too who already has played with Carr. Yes Carr is a big downgrade from Rodgers, but he still is a guy who can sling the ball and played clutch in close games. So I think they could be a tough out.
All of these teams above belong in this range IMO, people can argue the order, but I cant put any of them higher except maybe Atlanta over Cleveland just given the probability Watson gets a big suspension. However, Cle with no Watson suspension is better than Indy imo.
My ranking:
- BUF - Almost all of our main pieces back and some very good FA additions to areas we need to improve.
- Den - Tough to put them here before we see what Wilson can do there, but on paper it makes sense given the balance of defense and offense they have.
- LAC - Herbert takes yet another progressive step, which is enough to move them up to 3 even though the D has questions to whether it is improved enough.
- KC - Too early to right them off. Hill will be missed, but his production was very hit or miss, they can find a replacement for that potentially in this WR rich draft.
- OAK - Yes I realize I just put the whole AFCW from 2 -4, but its (on paper) maybe the best division ever, and quite frankly I think any of the 4 are capable of winning it. I think its unrealistic to say all 4 make the playoffs, but this isn't a playoff list, its best team list. And right now, I think these 4 are better than everyone in the AFC not named the Bills.
- TEN - They proved doubters wrong when they kept beating the best teams even after losing Henry.
- CIN - A lot of people will have them higher, but I don't feel their style of winning is sustainable long term and I think other teams have improved more than they will be next year.
- BALT - Assuming they are all healthy and stay that way, I think they work their way back to being one of the better AFC teams, but how good is still a question. They have some holes still and questions at RB as well, so hard to know who they are today. Potential to be a top 4 team or could miss the playoffs, hard team to figure out at this stage of the offseason.
Honorable mentions for top 8:
- Cleveland would be in that top 8 if not for the expected Watson suspension. If he doesn't get suspended then I think Cleveland by default moves into the top 5 ranking.
- Indy is a curious one, not sure how much of an impact Ryan at this age makes there with mediocre receiving group compared to what he was used to in Atlanta most his career. But on paper now, I like the other teams a little bit better, but they are pretty close with those teams outside of the top 5 in terms of ranking them today.
- Miami I think is at best a 9 win team, and may be under .500 this year. I think they will feel the sting of losing their HC a lot personally who always had them over achieving most the time. I have a feeling they are more like a 7 or 8 win team, AFCE has a tough schedule this year.
- Teams like NE and PIT cant be in the top 8 right now, but they have sleeper potential. NE showed it last year, while not in our class of teams, they still found ways to win a lot more games than people expected, so hard to just flat out count them out even though they definitely don't belong in the top 8 ranking list right now. And Trubisky might just surprise a lot of people in Pit...I mean he cant be any worse than Ben was last year IMO, and likely better. If he Trubisky comes in and proves to be a good starter there, then that team can be dangerous again.
Everyone else has no shot at being in the convo of being a good team this year IMHO.
Oakland has a team?
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2 hours ago, corta765 said:
After Hill's trade today rank the AFC as you see it at this point for 2022 (yes I understand draft still needs to happen). Here are my thoughts:
1. BUF 13-4 After everything that has happened most complete team right now
2. DEN 12-5 I trust Wilson over LAC for division
3. BAL 11-5 Historic amount of injuries last year, they will bounce back
4. TEN 10-7 They've bled some depth but I trust them over IND more right now
5. LAC 12-5 Tie breaker for division so they are WC and really good
6. CIN 10-7 They get the WC and start on the road this playoff year. Their rivals have all gotten better
7. MIA 10-7 Similar to the Patriots last year a soft schedule compared to AFCW or AFCN foes will gift wins even though talent wise teams 8-10 are better IMO.
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8. CLE 9-8 Watson is going to be suspended for at least 4-6 games if not more. That's too many games in division this competitive
9. OAK 9-8 I think that QB wise their third in division and the attrition inside will hurt their playoff chances more then talent
10. KC 9-8 They have bled a lot of free agents as the cap has not been nice and their division is insane. Hill leaving though makes it a tough sell to see them up top
11. IND 8-9 Matt Ryan is on the backside of his career and has been for years. He couldn't take advantage of the weapons he had in ATL the last few years and has less in IND
12. JAX 8-9 Competent coaching will do wonders for Trevor who takes steps forward. After hearing very thing Urban did its a miracle he didn't retire at QB
13. PIT 7-10 Mitch its not personal just business and they have the 4th best QB in a division that is quite solid.
14. NE 7-10 Teams year 1 with new free agents gain on average 3 wins, next year they lose that gain. Additionally the rest of the division is only better and nothing has been done to help make Mac's life easier.
15. NYJ 5-12 Their defense will play better this year, but their offense is still ways behind the rest of the AFC plus Zach Wilson needs to take some major steps to show life.
16. HOU 4-13 They are slowly rebuilding what they had it will just take time.
I wouldn't put KC that low. They still have a good coach and elite qb. That's always going to make them contenders. We're definitely the better team now though.Also the Dolphins may have surpassed the Pats in the division. They really need Tua to step up this year or bust.
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On 1/31/2022 at 12:42 PM, prissythecat said:
Football is a team sport so saying that one QB is better than others is meaningless in isolation . Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers are/were arguably better QBs than Tom Brady if you just look at pure passing stats . But Tom Brady has twice as many Super Bowl wins as the two of them combined . Why is that ? Because the Pats and Bucs had much better teams around Brady.
Ok let's not act like Manning and Rodgers never had good teams around them. They just constantly fall short so people make up new excuses to make them look better than they are. For instance the excuse for Rodgers last year was the defense, this year it was special teams, even when the offense falling short is the common denominator in both losses. And Brady has passed Manning in volume stats and exceeds his efficiency stats with far less INTs.
As for Mahomes vs Allen, whether we like it or not, Mahomes absolutely has the Brady-esque factor that guys like Manning, Rodgers and Brees didn't. Time will tell if Josh is the same guy who is able to overcome the team's shortcomings and will his team to victory anyway. He has come so close twice, just didn't get there yet. I have really high hopes he will get there.
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5 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:
There is no way you can make Rogers the MVP after this game. So who do you name? Taylor & Henry are out of action. Honesty, IMO it comes down to Allen, Burrow and Mahomes.
Playoffs don't count. Even if they did, Brady got 2nd team all pro votes so if they're not giving it to Rodgers he will get it.
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12 hours ago, FFadpecr said:
The super team the year prior had Gronk and Antonio Brown and Tristan Wirfs? Oh wait....they didn't!
Brady didn't win the Super Bowl last year with a "good" supporting cast....he won with a "historic, all-time, fool-proof Superteam" supporting cast.
There's "good" and then there's that.
bull####. That super team was 7-5 at week 12 ish last year, kinda like us now. And AB and Gronk were non-factors until the actual Super Bowl. Don't tell me if we have the GOAT at qb right now we don't have a chance to turn it around and win it all? Also how's the super team going for the Rams?
Pats' fans melting down over 1st rd pick, Video of McVay laughing at the pick... Brutal!
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Umm he owed Brady that win after losing the Eagles super bowl