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    I can't muster the energy to care about who the Bills draft anymore.  Last time I got upset was the Donte Whitner pick.  If I knew better....Beane would be at home criticizing my selections. 🤷‍♂️

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    Legette vs. McConkey

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    4 hours ago, LabattBlue said:

    I am all for McConkey over any one trick pony vertical threat at 28.   Go get the deep threat boundary guy in round 2, 4 or 5. 

    Just saying, but DK Metcalf was also considered a "one trick pony" in regard to only being a vertical threat....I hope Beane is doing his due diligence on this receiver group and doesn't reach based on need.  

     

     

    21 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

    I would like one of the McConkey fans to tell me, who is the comp player for his ceiling? Legette I can say it's AJ Brown. McConkey I can't think of anyone with his skill set that became a truly elite WR. Maybe Stefon Diggs but if that's the ceiling it's not good enough. We need someone that has the potential to dominate in the playoffs.

    McConkey's comp would be at best, Edelman/Welker....at worst, Beasley.

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    Epic, Hypothetical Trade Scenario: Would ya?

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    15 minutes ago, papazoid said:

     

    any team that gets josh....is never picking in the Top 10 again.....for real

     

    if Josh was off the bills....we'd be lucky to win 6 games

     

    so, the only premium pick is this years #1 & maybe #9

     

    NONE of these QB's will be as good as josh....the only advantage is resetting the $45-50 mil QB cap market

     

    i'm NOT doing it for two 1st's and 2 seconds.

     

    what's my price ??......call me when it's five 1st's and five 2nd's

    My point exactly...It's a franchise crippling price for short term success.  Al Davis is the only one who would do it and he's dead.

    Epic, Hypothetical Trade Scenario: Would ya?

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    5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

    What makes this trade worse and inherently dumber, is that any future picks from Bears would be late round picks as hey would win too much with Allen.  So you’re not even getting good picks back.  
     

    Anyone who votes yes should have their account suspended until after the draft because the yes vote is that dumb 


    Wrong.  0% chance Beane has considered trading Josh Allen.  ZERO.  

    Have to agree.  It's never been considered.   The scenario of trading JA is something so ludicrous and detrimental to the franchise its just dumb to talk about...and I would know, I say a lot of dumb things.   

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    Epic, Hypothetical Trade Scenario: Would ya?

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    3 hours ago, EmotionallyUnstable said:

    Chicago Bears get: Josh Allen

     

    Buffalo Bills get: #1, #9, 2025 1st and 2nd

     

    If not, what would it take? Everybody’s got a price!

    If this was actually being entertained....  The price proposed is too low and, the actual price in acquiring JA now,  in his prime, one of the most dynamic and talented players in NFL history, would legitimately cripple a franchise like the Bears. It wouldn't be worth it.

     

    Now, a team like the Niners, theoretically could offer the moon to win a SB or two but again, so much draft capital would need to be expended to make this happen...it's just not realistic.  

     

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    OJ Simpson dead at 76

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    3 hours ago, Just Jack said:

    Let's see if the Bills publicly acknowledge it.  

    No way...I'd be surprised.  The Bills released a player for an unvetted accusation that never saw a trial...Can't imagine they will recognize an accused murderer who was convicted in a civil trial and by all accounts, the majority of the US population believes is an actual murderer.

    Who is the best #14 in Bills history?

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    28 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

    Diggs and it isn't close. The question wasn't "who is your most sentimental #14" or "who is your favorite #14". It was who is the best.  Diggs far and away is the best and these other replies answering a question that wasn't asked probably need to learn how to separate logic and emotion a little better.  This wasn't an interpretation question, it was a logic question not open for interpretation....by any measure Diggs was the best #14 ever on the Bills.

    Actually....it was. 

     

    From the OP's first post - 

    Best doesn't necessarily mean who produced most.  It could.

     

    But just overall if you take everything into a player from production to leadership, tenure, great moments, to just likeable.....

     

    Did you read the first post or do you just like to just be passive aggressive and imply the people responding with players based on great moments are stupid?

     

    In my very subjective opinion based off of the very subjective criteria listed out in the very first post....It's Ryan Fitzpatrick....for me.

     

    But I'm willing to be open minded about others subjective position based on: production to leadership, tenure, great moments, to just likeable....which was in...THE VERY FIRST POST. 

     

     

    The Bills need worse recievers

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    33 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

     

    I get where you are coming from, but Owens and Moss don't qualify for what I am saying.  Eagles didn't trade a bounty for TO, nor did the Patriots to get Moss who only spent a 4th round pick.  And of course, they never won a Super Bowl either.  So not that your points aren't valid, I think maybe you misunderstood the basis of my point of when teams give up a ton of draft capital to go get a WR that then diminishes their ability to continue to build the rest of the team.   For example, anytime someone can go get a "Randy Moss" player for a 4th round pick and has the cap room to make it work, its a no brainer.  But how often does a trade up to draft Julio Jones or big trade for a Tyreek Hill result in a Super Bowl?  Answer is quite frankly never has.

     

    The reason I bring this up is we have to weigh the cost vs the return.  Is it really necessary to go get a top 15 WR in the draft and give up 2-4 premium picks to do so?  Well, only one team in the last 20 years even had a top 15 drafted WR1 in Mike Evans despite there being some great WR drafts over that span with some great WR's to come out of them early in those drafts.  

     

    Consider the year we got Diggs.  That draft, everyone here wanted us to use trade the farm to move up to get one of Ruggs, Jeudy, or Lamb because everyone knew none would make it to us, including Beane.  Well...lets see how that worked out:

    • Bills - we sent a pretty big trade package to Minny to get Diggs and then paid him a lot of money while Allen was on a rookie deal.  Diggs emereged as a top 5, arguably top 3 WR during at least 2 of those years, and we only made it out of the 2nd round once in 4 years.  
      • What if we had instead traded up for one of the big 3:
        • Ruggs and Jeudy - Ruggs is in Jail and Jeudy sucks compared to his hype and has been a mediocre WR.  
        • Lamb - Was being questioned if he was truly a WR1 until finally this year, his 4th season.  Dallas has won even less than we have and they had multiple seasons with Cooper and Lamb.  
    • Best WR's in the draft ended up being people on the board at our original pick in Jefferson and Higgins.  Lamb finally entered the debate now with Higgins on who is better, but up until this season it was Jefferson and Higgins.  

    Trading up in that draft would have been a huge mistake and not returned the value of Diggs.  Trading for Diggs worked out to help us win more games, but ultimately it delivered 4 disappointing playoff exits, none of which was because of our WR group.  

    • We lost in 2020 because we were the worse team, 2021 we lost because of our defense
    • 2022 we lost in the trenches and not being able to run the ball in bad weather
    • 2023 we lost because he had no linebackers and couldn't even get Mahomes jersey dirty.  

    The most correct thing to do was not trade for Diggs and stay put and take Jefferson.  Doesn't mean the Diggs trade was bad or wrong, but not giving up draft capital and taking Jefferson on a rookie contract was more correct.  But, again, Diggs trade makes more sense as no one knows how those rookies will turn out until they hit the field.  

     

    Look around at other big moves to get a WR...Even a lesser cost of Hopkins to AZ when he was arguably the best WR in the NFL and at least top 3, did very little for them although they only gave a 2nd.  Clevelands big trade for OBJ didn't do much either, neither did Antonio Brown to the Raiders, or Amari Cooper also in Cle.  I mean the examples can keep going on, I am just trying to name more of the most recent ones.  

     

    To be 100% clear, I want a WR early in this draft too, we all do.  I would love to get one of MHJ, Nabers, Odunze, or Thomas...I just don't believe we should gut a lot of premium draft capital to do so because this team needs more than just one of them to get over the hump, its proven that already the last 4 years.  And when you factor in how great this draft is, historically great, maybe the best of all time in talent and depth...it gets even more illogical to gut our draft capital on a team who needs to keep restocking young talent given for cap management.  

     

    IMHO next years first should be really near our max, and only because we have two 2nd's next year now, so moving the first hurts less.  But even so...imagine in 2025 having our first and then probably an early 2nd (Vikings) and of course our 2nd all next year for this roster, we could really load some talent up on this team.  That could be what puts us over the top even.  And we still would have added some exciting WR(s) in this draft too.  

     

    For the record...if on draft day I see we make some big expensive move to get someone like Nabers, I won't be mad, adding Nabers would be incredibly exciting.  I will however be concerned that the cost may outweigh the reward because we will need to keep building through the draft to find playmakers and elite talent elsewhere on the roster because we won't have cap room to sign them in FA.  

     

    I would typically just skim a post this long but.....really well done sir.  Great take.  I was all for packaging picks for a WR (out of frustration more than anything) but you have legitimately changed my mind.

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    The Bills need worse recievers

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    3 hours ago, Bills of Boston said:

    When I got this notification I really thought I was losing my mind but then I realized I wrote that over a year ago… the narrative had completely changed IMO prior to moving on from Diggs last week. 

    LOL...Well, bad on me because I didn't look at the post date. Your right, circumstances are definitely different. 

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    The Bills need worse recievers

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    On 4/1/2023 at 8:20 PM, Bills of Boston said:

    Dead cap hit…. Is a thing 

     

    Obv  just giving you a hard time. You’re a great poster here with an awesome KC perspective… While I understand the thought process, it just makes less than zero sense to move Diggs for multiple multiple reasons 

    Not being argumentative but I don't understand this take.  What GM would proactively weaken a unit "just because"?   Diggs was obviously becoming or had become a major distraction/problem within the organization and Beane was not going to tolerate it.  Thats my own personal conjecture.

     

    On another note...I'm thinking the Bills might be prepping a bit to avoid an aging, underperforming team when the new stadium opens up. A team who is on the come up after a couple down years (which realistically might happen).

     

     

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    Diggs traded to Texans for picks

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    1 minute ago, Mark Vader said:

    That's a big maybe, considering how late those picks could be. Took me the same time to come up with that response.

     

    According to this thread the Bills are going to be a dumpster fire next year without Diggs 🤷‍♂️ I'm just deferring to the experts on here.  Bills will obviously suck next year so, pretty attractive draft picks.  If you can do it, and hypothetically get MHJ. I'd say do it.  The Bills have done everything else with this franchise except mortgage their future by trading picks away.  I say let's try that route.

     

    It took you a half second to formulate a response to a question you had no idea how to answer....impressive

    Diggs traded to Texans for picks

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    2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said:

    How?

    This years first and second, next years first and two seconds. That'll move you up quite a ways and would be very attractive to a developing team.  Only took me half a second to come up with that scenario. 

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