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12 minutes ago, LJs Bodyguard said:
Alright, looking at film on the Bills Defense, it definitely looks like they could be one of the most, if not the most disciplined defenses and that is what it will take to at least slow down the Ravens offense. You have to keep Lamar in front of you and wait for help so your team can gang tackle him; don't try to tackle him one-on-one in the open field. I like my Ravens in this one, but I think the Pats lose to KC and then to you guys.
and i will take this every day of the week, this game is not a must win in my mind, i just think it's an excellent matchup, even more than the game you guys had last week.
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5 minutes ago, RavensFan said:
He's on the injury report because of the standard "veteran's day off" that Harbaugh gives to the older guys almost every week, not because of injury. It means he'll be fully rested. His "pitch count" is due to them having Gus Edwards, who has 460 yards @5.1 YPC (and over 700 in only 11 games last year), not because he's old. Late in the game, they're still both fresh.
a couple of good games against suspect D's is what makes up Edwards season, a younger ingram, maybe not as talented but i agree he's used to spell Ingram. Still a between the tackles runner so the gameplan is the same.
take out his 14 YPC game against Houston (not very good run D) and he's 'OK'. BTW - 6 for 15 against SFO 2.9 YPC
no doubt you guys have accounted for weaknesses from the 2018 season and it's been very successful, i just think the Bills strengths match up well here.
I go in stopping the run period, regardless of who it is carrying the rock, the passing game without a running game isn't scary.
Harbaugh knows his limitations, why he played so aggressive in the Chiefs game, they can put up points in a hurry and he was pushing the envelope to counter that because he knows, if his team gets down by 2 scores their O isn't built to come from behind. and it appears he's adopted that attitude for every game, and it's working.
Bills don't have a potent O (at all) but they are patient, methodical and for the last few games, mistake free. They can 'quietly' put points on the board and wear down D's.
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2 minutes ago, PaattMaann said:
yea no clue what that dude is talking about, im plenty worried about Ingram. Im MOST worried about Ingram. Jam the middle of the field with bodies who are holding their lanes/gaps, and then FORCE contain on Lamar with whoever you designate. Easier said than done, but thats whats gotta happen. Force TE/WR to outside releases to take away easy completions from slants. Easier said than done, but thats whats gotta happen. Force Lamar to throw to the outside instead of the middle of the field. Ravens are a great offense....gonna take a complete effort and some outstanding individual plays to hold them under 20.
i'm not minimizing Ingram but he's a 30 y/o back that got a decent workload last week, he's on the injury report and regardless of what that means it's late in the season also.
look at his game logs, they have him on a pitch count, consistently 13-16 carries a game (once he hit 19, in a tight win against the Mason led Stillers, probably to run out the clock), he does have a good YPC but that's more because D's are worried about Lamar.
Keep then middle stout and focus on Lamar with the rest, i don't think Ingram is even the secondary component with this game, he's a compliment to be aware about but I don't gameplan for Ingram to be successful.
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4 minutes ago, Logic said:
Cover 1 mentioned on Twitter that the last time Jackson came onto the field against the Bills -- and granted it was in garbage time in a Ravens blowout win -- the Bills came out in a 46 Bear front with Tremaine Edmunds in more of an edge/down-lineman role.
Can't help but wonder if that's their plan to stop him this time around. Don't forget that Leslie Frazier was a member of the '85 Bears defense, and he knows the strengths and weaknesses and capabilities of that type of defensive front.i've been calling the 46 in my head since Saturday, it's kryptonite is the spread 0 but i'm not sure that worries me with the way the Ravens are built.
talent will prevail at times so the challenge is to stay with it despite a couple of times they beat us or not...
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i know everything is telling us we shouldn't win i went with 60%. there's too much 'balance' to this matchup between the two teams i have to go with the Bills trajectory and discipline. is it possible to say i think they've plateaued @ 8 wins in a row and we're still moving upwards?
I very much respect the Ravens and what they've accomplished but this is a bump in the road for them on a number of fronts and I think they leave with a loss, a close one at that. I will admit i think right now the Ravens are the better team, just that we sneak out a win and i'm 60% confident of that.
I was confident on the 'Boys and very confident with the Broncos; not sure about y'all but i was SHOCKED at the number of people here, media, youtubers that were picking the Broncos, i just don't understand the logic. Yes, i get their D and we only put up 20 but we could have dropped a 30 burger on them whilst holding them to single digits.
Anyway - i look at the remaining schedule and i see 2 more wins and 1 loss to the Pats(after the ravens game). The Stillers are playing inspired ball but that's against uninspired teams, that's the not Bills now or when they play them. the loss at NE to me is a given given how they "control" things at home other than just what happens on the field, we're not good enough to overcome that.
regardless of what happens with the Ravens i see us going 2-1; confidently, to close out the season...
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4 minutes ago, corta765 said:
the harder and larger your target becomes
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17 hours ago, 4merper4mer said:
My opinions; please post yours. It has nothing to do with hate for the tam itself; just the fans. I have a few categories.
1. Do they have fans? Jags, Rams, Dolphins, Lions, Falcons,
2. Good fans but only when the team is good. Bengals, Bucs, Titans, Redskins, Panthers?, Cards, Texans?
3. Good consistent fans. Vikes, Giants, Bears, Ravens, Colts, Panthers?, Texans?,
4. Delusional. Jets, Raiders, Browns, Cowboys
5. Good fans in the wrong town. Chargers
6. Obnoxious. Steelers, Broncos, Eagles, 49ers
7. Great fans. Packers, Saints, Chiefs
8. Ridiculously obnoxious and I'd like to slap them all. Seahawks
9. Chowderheads that make Seattle fans look like Saints fans. Pats
10. Incomparably great. Bills
my opinion might be dated but i attended all 3 games @ Arrowhead in the 90's and the Chiefs fans were the nastiest SOB's i've ever met as a visiting team (i've been in ~20 different stadiums), i had a woman throw her entire beer on me, it was so cold it turned to slush as it headed my direction. fights, telling the visiting fans to get out, pouring beer in chairs for people to sit in, etc. it's a bad mixture; passive-aggressive midwesterners with horrible attitudes and even worse human beings.
the 3rd and final game i didn't even wear Bills gear and I was 6'3" 230 back then.
only disclaimer i'll give is i typically bought my tickets right off the freeway as you turn into the stadium and they were all Chief's Staff seats (they apparently got free tickets in their own section back then) and I was alone each time so that probably made me an easy target.
Since then i've ranked them in my top 5 worst, above the Raider Nation (yep, i said it)
Like Andy, Like Mahomes, like a lot of the players, the fans? can go F themselves with a baseball bat wrapped in barbed wire.
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Both teams having big wins the week before, a lot left on the field in both games.
while the Ravens have a more complete team (based on the entire season) i think the 8 game win streak comes to an end in Buffalo to a well rested, little injured Bills.
24-20 Bills and it's definitely not easy.
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5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
Well, the OP said “ some “ will say they are a SB contender. It seemed obvious to me that a lot would say that if those wins happened so that’s why I pointed it out. Was more of a “ correction” than anything else.
Gotcha BD, my bad, i jumped to page 2.
In that case, i'm totally agreeing with you
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5 minutes ago, Boatdrinks said:
If the Bills beat DAL, BAL, PIT, and NE in succession lots of NFL observers will be calling them Super Bowl contenders.
i had a boss once that used to say "ok, i'm going to make a 'No DUH' statement"
now THATS a 'no duh' statement...
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44 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:
Say when, for purposes of full disclosure I watched almost all of the first, but almost none of the second.
What I saw in the first was a gang that couldn't shoot straight or get on the same page. Even if they did pick up some yards.
oh i agree, i was being facetious, i should have had a more sarcastic tone.
i shouldn't be surprised, knowing Pats fans, but i was shocked at the twitter responses of the final Brady stats and no mention of the worst execution of prevent D in history.
it's like they didn't watch the game and just looked at the stats
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50 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:
May I just add something more? Good for having the Pats where they are above.
In this league that absolutely and positively warships at the alter of offense it is at least consistent to see the 10-2 Pats at 5 because their offense is dreadful.
That 1/3...that's not really crazy, is it? I'll take that.
but they aren't, they had 448 yards of O against Houston and then all the Pats fans posting about Brady's 350ish, 3 TD night, there's no problem there
BTW - i'm still pissed at it, was that not the worst display of a prevent D you have EVER seen, it was stupid bad.
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3 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:
Yeah it has happened a lot, think of the Longs, Mannings, Matthews.
but has there been 3 on the same field?
2 longs, 2 Mannings, 2 Matthews, 2 Watts, 2 Barbers.
i can't think of 3.
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45 minutes ago, Scorp83 said:
That was earlier in the year & I've mentioned this past Sunday... 100 yards passing, 100 yards rushing 2TD's on his bad day
If Josh had 100 passing regardless of how much he ran people here would rip their own skin off, tie it into knots and hang themselves from the ceiling fan, the reaction would be biblical...
even if the Bills won the statements would be: it's not sustainable, an injury waiting to happen, we need a legitimate passing QB!
so yes, i would say that's a bad day; are you suggesting it's unbelievable they are calling it a bad day?
look - they were playing a west coast team, in the afternoon, crappy, wet, cold weather with a starting RB injured and their starting TE just back and probably not 100%, won by 3 only putting up 20 total so if LJ has a hundy/hundy day i kinda like our chances @ home.
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9 minutes ago, IgotBILLStopay said:
Just wanted to point out that the stats above are bogus. Not trying to call you out OP - after all you are only citing thedraftnetwork:)
Through 8 games in his rookie season, Aaron Donald had 22 tackles and 3 sacks.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/16716/type/nfl/year/2014
Through 8 games in his rookie season, Fletcher Cox had 24 tackles and 0 sacks.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/14941/type/nfl/year/2014
Through 8 games in his rookie season, Geno Atkins had 12 tackles and 2.5 sacks.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/13311/type/nfl/year/2010
Through 8 games in his rookie season, Gerald McCoy had 21 tackles and 0 sacks.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/13240/type/nfl/year/2010
Through 8 games, Ed Oliver has 23 tackles and 2 sacks.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/gamelog/_/id/4039303/ed-oliver
Wrong stats nothwithstanding, Oliver's stats through 8 games are no doubt not that far from Geno Atkins and Aaron Donald and probably better than Fletcher Cox
how embarrassing for TDN, the guy that wrote it holds the title "Director of Administration".
I wonder if he was looking at 'games started' because Donald didn't start his first 4 and he had 1 sack so that indicates some of the difference...
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/D/DonaAa00/gamelog/2014/
regardless, someone should let the original writer know, I don't do Twitter or Facebook or i would.
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Just now, Joe in Winslow said:
Yes, but is he CONCERNED?
awesome.
so is "just can't see" the alternative to CONCERNED?
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2 minutes ago, Steptide said:
As much as I hope I'm wrong, I just can't see how we beat the Ravens.
My hope is that home field gives the bills some advantage and maybe Lamar has an off game. Obviously he's gonna run, and if I'm on the bills defense I'm going after that ball like my life depends on it when he decides to run
Shots fired! is this the first "i hope i'm wrong" of this weeks opponent thread?
what do we have for him Johnny???
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I want the Ravens to wear their light colored jerseys.
anyone else notice it appeared with the weather and their all black uni's Lamar was able to disguise the exchange more? May be insignificant in the grand scheme but it appeared to me to help in a number of plays.
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fricken sweet!
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1 minute ago, RaoulDuke79 said:
Hahaha....he fell over before Robey even got there.
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you know the D didn't want to come back out this soon.
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Al just announced it on SNF
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D is tired already - just going through the motions
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A comment about Lamar gets a 49er's announcer suspended
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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i"m in total agreement with AD7 here, i think society is being overtly sensitive.
Heck i thought the same thing (minus skin color thought) but watching that game, all black uni's, darker than usual wet ball, bad weather and Lamar does have black armbands as well, the ball was very disguised. if you were to go a step further then yes, skin tone would play into it.
let's not forget Browns nickname, and most of us (assuming the media does as well) know it's origination, so when we call him 'Smoke' are we all to be suspended? labeled as a racist?