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  1. 10 minutes ago, JoeF said:

     

    Incognito played pretty well the second half of 2016 when Groy was at Center....not to dispute that Richie and Wood were a good combo -- but I saw no discernable difference in Richie's when Groy was at C.  That might say more about Groy than it does Incognito.

     

    I think the board overall underestimates Groy.  He is bigger and stronger than Wood.  There was a reason the Rams wanted him as their starting Center in 2017.  He has earned this opportunity and, barring injury, I believe will take advantage of it.  I think the real question is whether Groy is at LG and Bodine is at C or Groy is at C and John Miller moves back to his natural position (LG) in an offense that is more befitting his skills.

    I love Groy and I really hope he stays at center as Bodine would be a fairly large down grade at center. I think Groy at center and Miller/Teller at LG will be our best option 

  2. This defense is going to be legit, sure our o line took some hits (Teller, Groy will not be as big as most think) but the defense had improved drastically. This defense had huge holes at DT, LB and DE and we filled those wonderfully.

     

    Now I still think they are a dominant d end (hopefully Hughes regains it) away from being top 5 but they are close 

  3. 14 minutes ago, Justice said:

     

    I expect coaching staffs to know enough about to play to his players strengths. That’s my argument. That’s been my argument the whole time. He doesn’t have to change systems. He can call more pass plays that require timing. They’re in every offense. 

    Most people expect coaches to play to a player strengths but a lot of coaches are extremely hard headed. Case in point Rick Dennison running an offense that played in to Tyrods weakness. Another is Nick Foles, looked good under chip running the spread and RPOs and then goes to the Rams looks awful and then back to philly and wins a super bowl. 

     

    I haven't watched Wyoming football expect on YouTube but I find it totally plausible that his oc wasn't smart enough or capable enough to design an offense around JA stengths. Instead, did what a lot of OCs on his level due and just run an offense on he's always done it and not adapt 

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  4. Sorry for the rant that was off topic but as I stated earlier I was a Rosen fan but understand why they took Allen. Allen was 4th on my list but wanted one of the top 4 so I was happy to snag him. The one thing I didn't realize before the draft was the great work with and coach ability. What kept Allen in the conversation for me was re fact he had identicle tds stats to wentz in fewer games. Sure he had more tunrovers and a lower completion percentage but if he didn't, he would of been number 1

  5. All I know franchise changing qbs come in all different forms and different back grounds. Analytic guys have hammered Allen all off season but the old scouts have not. Of the last 30 years the qbs who have said to have once in a lifetime arms I would say would of been, Allen, Jeff George, Jarmacus Russell, Brett Farve, Drew Bledsoe, Matt Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, Ryan Mallet, Jay Cuttler and Carson Wentz (top 10). Most certainly some have busted to an epic level but for those ones that didn't there was a common trend. The ones who didn't showed tremendous work ethic and coach ability. Just like any professional talent trumps all and it's how you harness it that separates it. Sure half those guys busted but they were nightmares to coach or were extremely lazy. Even someone like cutler wasn't a bust and if his teammates liked him and was coachable would of been that much more successful 

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  6. 5 minutes ago, Justice said:

    I trust my eyes and I’ve read many scouting reports that agree with that assessment. He didn’t play in a timing based offense so I think it’s fair to say neither of us really know if he’s capable or not. 

    That’s my thoughts exactly and we could’ve waited on one or the other and kept our second rounders. The Bills felt strongly enough to pounce on him and were even willing to move up even higher and pay more. Let’s hope they’re right. I too liked Rosen more but I have to admit his concussion

    history is scary. 

     

    I think people might compare him to those two because of his area code accuracy.  

    I loved Rosen but going I had concerns he could be the next Sam Bradford. Productive when healthy but built stature wise to with stand the NFL punishment and no mobility to speak of. Looks like Carson palmer in the pocket but a lot more thin. Not a good recipe 

  7. 57 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said:

     

    I think there is a distinction to be made between "elite QB talent" and "elite arm talent". I think neither Allen nor Manuel were considered "elite QB talent", but that "elite arm talent" is considered a trait held by Allen. 

     

    I can get behind a Testaverde floor for sure. 

    Manuel was always considered to have a good arm but never an elite arm. Strong yes, elite never. On top of that people talked about EJ athleticism but the guy was never a legit runner 

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  8. 1 hour ago, BB@Shooter said:

     

    All I know is I wanted one of the big 4 qbs in this draft. Allen was 4 on my list so yes I was disappointed we chose him over Rosen. However, I understand why the Bills gravitated towards him. And when I actually dug deep I saw what enmaroed him to Buffalo. They are swinging for the fences with him. 

     

    Oh, and to compare him to EJ or JP is lauaghable. Those guys were 2nd to 3rd round graded prospects the entire process. The Bills reached for them. Allen was a consecious first round talent for a year and half 

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