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    53 Roster predictions

    in The Stadium Wall

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    17 hours ago, khlax3 said:

    Assuming we don’t add any meaningful FAs this is how I see the roster breakdown assuming everyone is healthy:

     

    QB: Allen, Trubisky (cut- white, buchle)

    RB: Cook, Davis, Johnson (cut-Evans, Gore Jr)

    FB: Gilliam

    TE: Kincaid, Knox, Hawes (Cut- Davidson)

    WR: Palmer, Shakir, Coleman, Samuel, Shenault (Cut- shavers, Virgil, pranther)

    OL: Dawkins, Edwards, McGovern, Torrence, Brown, Anderson, Van Pran, granger, gable, Lundt (cut- green, Edwards, gouraige)

     

    DE: Bosa, groot, epenesa, Solomon, Jackson (susp- Hoecht)

    DT: Oliver, Jones, sanders, walker, Carter (susp-ogunjob cut-logue)

    LB: Bernard, Milano, Williams, ulofoshio, Andereson (cut-Spector)

    CB: Benford, Harriston, white, Johnson, Hancock, strong (cut- Jackson, Ingram, coddington, hardy, couch)

    S: Rapp, Bishop, Forrest, Hamlin, Lewis

     

    P-Camarda

    K-Bass

    LS-Ferguson

     

    Offense-24

    Defense- 26 (does not include 2 suspended players)

    ST- 3

    Good job. Cut Lewis and Carter when suspension come back. 

     

    Only question is who is the return man?

    All corners no safety’s

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    Just now, Malazan said:

     

    Yes, which directly goes against you disagreeing that.. "They will try some corners at safety". You might want to try some of that comprehension for yourself.

    Please show me where I disagreed

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    Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech

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    Just now, Kirby Jackson said:

    Bro, you just tried to make an argument using Tyrell Shavers, KJ Hamler, Jalen Virgil and Kaden Prather 🤣. Those guys COMBINED for one more NFL reception than you or I last year. I’m good with having a discussion but have something to support it other than googled 40 times. If you wanted to discuss how Palmer is one of the league leaders in separation and has averaged over 15 YPC over the last 2 years, that would be something. To tell me that Jalen Virgil and KJ Hamler ran fast 40’s is absurd.
     

    I listed like 10 or so guys, that went on day 3, that run sub 4.4, most of whom visited, all of whom are known as field stretchers as my argument. You didn’t need a certain guy. You needed one of the dozen or whatever it was that went (that may be conservative). They took the 28th guy who has a slow 10 and 20 yard split. He doesn’t get off the line. He has decent long speed. Prather doesnt solve their problem. If you want to object, feel free but bring more than Hamler & Virgil’s 40 times.  

    I apologize, I deleted that after I posted. Good day to you kirby

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    All corners no safety’s

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    1 minute ago, Malazan said:

     

    So your take that they weren't going to try any of these corners at safety aged like milk left in the hot sun then.. huh

    Umm you should work on your reading comprehension. I am saying that BBB, in his press conference after draft, said THAT JORDAN HANCOCK WILL BE USED AT SAFETY AND NICKEL. 

    Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech

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    14 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    It isn’t this OR that. It is this AND that. That has been my entire point in both threads. They had 4 needs: starting caliber CB, rotational DT, at least one more DL and a WR that can stretch the field vertically. Through their first 3 picks, they check the first 3 boxes. They had 7 picks yesterday (and the last 2 offseasons) to address the 4th box. They didn’t.


    They saw the 3rd least 2 high last year. That’s pretty much impossible with Josh Allen at QB. It looks like that’s what’s coming again. They’ve built a set of skill players that can’t threaten a team down the field and outside the numbers. What does that mean? It means that they will face more crowds in the middle and near the LOS. That’s where they like to operate. There will be less space for Shakir, Cook and Josh Allen. Why do that to yourself? Why not make sure that you get one of the 10ish guys on day 3 that is sub 4.4 and brings that skillset? It’s not like you had 1 pick or 1 option. There were lots of ways to get it done and they didn’t for the 2nd straight year. I don’t understand why you’d handcuff Josh Allen. 

    First team ever to have 30 pass td 30 rush td. 

    K.J. Hamler 4.27

    Curtis Samuel 4.31

    Jalen Virgil 4.40 

    Khalil Shakir 4.43

    Kaeden Prather 4.46 at 6'4"

    It's a myth Bills don't have speed at WR

    Bills 6th Round Pick (#1) : Dorian Strong - CB - VA Tech

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    5 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    They scored enough points until they didn’t. It’s not an agenda. It’s a fact. 2 years in a row they had the ball with a chance to win and didn’t. They didn’t have enough people besides Josh, and the backs, to make a play. They fell short. You can say, yeah but they scored 47 against the Jags so they’re good enough. I hold them to a higher standard. If you think that the skill players on this team are good enough, we strongly disagree.

    2 years in a row the defense couldn't make a stop when they needed to. They should have lost to Ravens if a wide open Andrews could catch. 

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    How quick do we sign Shaun Dolac as a UFDA?

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    1 minute ago, RichRiderBills said:

    The bills don't need them. I will say that but we do need some depth special teamers. I would also say that getting guys that fit the bills scheme is a decent idea. 

    I agree. Rooting for the local boys but I believe Strong and Hancock are upgrades over Ingram and Lewis. 

    More defense on Saturday, please, to finish the job, and take the final step

    in The Stadium Wall

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    4 minutes ago, whorlnut said:

    This is exactly where I’m at. If their answer to the WR room is banking on Coleman taking a step then it could backfire in epic fashion if he doesn’t. Remember…that’s EXACTLY what happened with Gabe Davis. He had the big playoff game against KC and they looked at him as the answer at WR2. Then the drops came and his lack of speed showed up. They didn’t have an answer because they completely bailed on picking a receiver in that draft. Hopefully they learned their lesson. I think it’s reckless to not continue to add another dynamic to the offense today. 

    Why are you so against giving Allen the best help you can find?  Serious question…

    Because under 20 catches on the year is not help. The top 4 will get most of the snaps if they stay healthy.  Also defense is the problem in the playoffs not the offense. The offense set a bills record for points in 16 games last year, they didn't need the 17th to do it. 

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    More defense on Saturday, please, to finish the job, and take the final step

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    1 minute ago, HappyDays said:

     

    I'm sorry but this just isn't true. Our backup safety is not going to play more snaps than our #5 WR. In case of injury, sure. But the #5 WR is basically a starter and is expected to contribute in every single game. Our top 5 last year were Shakir, Hollins, Coleman, Samuel, and MVS. They ended up replacing MVS with Cooper because he wasn't contributing at all. That's how important that spot is on the roster. It isn't just a backup position.

     

    Thankfully I don't believe Beane agrees with you. We heavily scouted and met with all of the vertical WRs in this class so I expect us to draft one today. I'm hoping it happens within the first 10 picks of the 4th round after a trade up.

    I'm not saying don't draft a WR, I'm saying do it late. Also cooper still out there as free agent. 

    More defense on Saturday, please, to finish the job, and take the final step

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    2 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

     

    The #5 WR on our depth chart right now is Laviska Shenault. That can't still be the case at this time tomorrow. That would represent a huge failure to address the position and would probably force us to bring back Amari Cooper who might be washed. We don't need to draft a superstar today but we need someone that pushes Shenault off the roster and adds a skill set that doesn't currently exist in the room. If your only response to that is "4th round players don't scare defenses" then you're not really giving serious thought to the discussion.

     

    It's more important to improve upon such players as Hamlin, Lewis, Ingram, Spector, and Carter. All those players will play more than a 5th WR. Also I believe Bosa, AJ, and Daquan will not be brought back next year. Also not having to re-sign jordan Philips and Quinton  whatever his name is might be beneficial.

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    More defense on Saturday, please, to finish the job, and take the final step

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    1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said:

    My goodness, don’t be so simple. It isn’t about how many balls are thrown to him (that’s a part of it). It’s about the impact that he has on the offense. If you draft, Thornton, for example, you have to give cushion and have safety help over the top. He’s 6’4” and runs a 4.30 40. If the safeties are 20 yards back and shading outside of the numbers, what do you think happens in the middle of the field? Do you think that there is space for Kincaid and Shakir to operate? Do you see why that’s a positive? Do you think that a safety being 20 yards from the LOS is better or worse for the running game than a safety playing 8 yards from the LOS? 

    Being simple is thinking a 4th round WR  is going to give anyone space on offense and that a defense will adjust to them. 

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