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8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said:
Sometimes you gotta find a way to win games that you have some adversity in...
Being a good front runner is all well and good but not every game is going to turn out that way
I would agree, but those losses include ridiculous weather involvement for some of those games. There's only so much we could reasonably expect from this decimated team today. It's a tough loss, but I'm ok letting Miami enjoy their Super Bowl here in Week 2 on their way to irrelevance come December.
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8 minutes ago, FieldGeneral said:
0-7 in close games since last season isn't good.
Nevermind that all of the other games over the course of that stretch have been won by double digits.
20-0 is pretty good in those games if you ask me.
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3 minutes ago, White Linen said:
Josh has a good amount of responsibility for this loss. He's awesome but he's not complete yet. Brady steps on your neck if you expose it to him. Josh must learn this.
The guy has won 20 straight games by double digits. I'm pretty sure he's learned how to be a savage and put teams away.
The Patriots and the Dolphins can credit both of their narrow victories primarily to Mother Nature, not to anything they did on the field.
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This year.
Then again next year.
Then again the year after that.
Keep drafting QBs pretty much every year until you find a guy that can consistently operate a modern NFL passing attack at a competent level.
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4 hours ago, MichaelAbdallah said:
Maybe? Probably?
But find me another Tre White and another Jerry Hughes to start on this defense, and I don't think that would be the case. I'm looking forward to seeing what Beane and McDermott can do this off-season to make that happen.
And of course, no one is doubting the importance of building an offense that is much better than the worst in modern NFL history. We will need to score more than 10 points a game in order to win games.
The problem is that Ol' School McD is looking to build an offense that scores 17 points a game and a defense that allows the opponent to score 13. That is a recipe for many, many blowout losses and 3-4 win seasons.
Where the league is going, the offense will need to score at least 30 every week. Pair that with a defense that can weather the storm and hold the opposition to between 24-28.
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5 hours ago, Chuck Wagon said:
The Rams / Saints / Chiefs would hang 40+ on our “good D”. Any high ranking has more to do with who we’ve played and teams knowing they can turn it off when they get 22 points than our D actually being good.
Winner!
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1 hour ago, row_33 said:
Balance with 1151 yards total in last years Super Bowl and a 54-51 score in the 2018 regular season game of the year
The "Get Off My Lawn/Field Position" crowd around here are unable to see that the train has already left the station.
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1 hour ago, PetermanThrew5Picks said:
We did lol. A lot. I was banging my head against the wall because I see worse on many NFL teams every week. But people pointed to one game in his career as the reason we had to move on. Should we have moved on? Probably. Should we move on for one game and not consider Tyrod's body of work as being by far one of our better recent Quarterbacks (who didn't retire on us *Orton)? Ludicrous. You never heard anybody say that from the saints game to just before week 1 this season?
No you don't.
Tyrod vs the Saints was about as bad of a game as any starting QB can have in the NFL.
He just avoids INTs by not throwing the ball. He also avoids points and yards as well -- that's why we had to move on. TT was the exact same QB in Cleveland and it lasted all of three games.
That's not exactly a high bar to cross. He was one of our better QBs of the past 20 years -- but not as good as Bledsoe, Fitz, Orton, or Flutie.
Better than JP, Trent, Brian, EJ, Cardale, Thad, or Jeff. Congratulations on being better than "absolute garbage".
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2 hours ago, Phil The Thrill said:
I would love for this to happen . Nate is a good guy. I don’t think he gets signed this year, though I do see the Bills signing him to the PS once he cleans waivers
Can't do it.
He has too much experience on the active roster. NP is ineligible for the PS.
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Hate to tell you, but one nice game against a struggling team that gave up on their head coach doesn't suddenly make the Bills a contender.
The Bills are still a bottom 3 team, depending on the week.
But I'll enjoy this one -- it was great to watch a competent QB run the offense for a change.
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I still think he should be fired no matter who he starts against JAX.
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Just now, TDTT said:
Daboll definitely gets it from me. Great play calling this game. You can see how important it is for us to get the running game going. Really helps to open up this offense. Excited to finally see a 100 yard receiver.
Wrong.
It was the passing game that opened up things for the running backs.
Barkley hitting Foster on the 1st play changed everything. Had the Jets on their heels from that point forward.
When will people realize that running the football is the most ineffective way to move an offense?
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5 hours ago, Lv-Bills said:
Are you friggin serious? They're tanking. In many different forms of tank, but they're tanking. The average teenager that reads the internet could put together a better offense. There is no way Beane is this stupid to actually be "trying".
I'm actually giving him credit, while being pissed at the way they've done this. Yeah, I'm saying there's no way he's this stupid.
For who exactly?
There really isn't a "can't miss" offensive star at the top of the next draft. If they're tanking for another defensive player, then they should be fired immediately for having absolutely no grasp on the modern NFL.
While I'd like to agree with you, stubbornness & arrogance have sunk many a man throughout human history. It appears McD & BB have an overabundance of both.
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8 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
No, this is them building for the future. The cost of that was not being able to field a better team THIS year.
Its mind boggling how hard it is for this board to cope with that. I mean everyone here wanted Beane to trade practically our whole draft to get a QB, he did it for a fraction of that and still landed what looks like a future star in Edmunds. Yet people are upset he didn’t magically find 3 WRs and 3 OL plus a TE at the same time.
We had a ton of dead cap space to clear it out, the very thing he said he was gonna do first and need 2 years to do. He did it quicker than he said and now this team has a strong D and is able to focus on rebuilding the offense this next year now that they have the QB they want to build it with.
Too many people can seem to differentiate between building a team and fielding a team. Beane will never intentionally lose, but that doesn’t mean he didn’t make decisions that would make it harder to win short term to be in better position to win long term.
Tanking means intending to lose. McD and Beane go out there to win, even if it’s not likely. They aren’t trying to lose. But the after math of clearing out contracts and trading up twice in the first round to get cornerstone prospects is that it meant not addressing other needs this season and would make this season tougher to win games. Add in some injury bad luck with Josh and it’s gotten tougher.
and then we will see how well they are progressing. Amazes me how much of the board is so out of touch with what’s really gone down.
Exactly.
People are upset because this coach & GM set off on a backwards plan to build around a defense & outdated running game first, rather than use all of their assets and capital to assemble a cutting-edge, high-octane offense that can make a team an actual contender. That should have been the priority from day 1.
Passing yards & lots of points are what consistently wins in the modern NFL. Speed kills.
Yet, these two clowns continue to talk about "field position" & "the weather" & "establish the run".
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20 hours ago, ROCBillsBeliever said:
I'd agree. He wouldn't be the Mahomes we see, today, though.
a 1/2 Mahomes is still better than the "Full Peterman".
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7 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Is that 500 yards worth $16M a year? That was my point. I like Sammy, a lot. But he isnt putting up the numbers to justify his paycheck. And Cooks is doing a lot more in his first year with Goff than Watkins did.
We dont miss his absence...we miss the absence of 3 Pro Bowl OL. Thats the issue. But MOST importantly...here is what no one seems to grasp. Had we not traded Glenn, we would have had to trade THIS years First to get Allen. Think about that. It was a much better to move to keep this years first which will almost certainly be top 5 and could be top 3.
We traded a 3rd for KB because we were in the thick of a playoff race. Had we not been trying to make the playoffs, KB trade never happens. And I applaud them for trying to do what they needed to get us there once it became clear that playoffs were a real possibility. It didn't work out, but most people here liked the trade when it happened. And Jordan's bad luck of injuries also forced their hand. Had Jordan stayed healthy, we also wouldn't have had to try and make a move. They got the best guy that was available last year. And you know what, KB helped us make the playoffs, he made a couple key plays like in the snow game that helped us get there. So cant fault them for that, it contributed to our breaking the 17 year drought.
And who can blame them for taking a flyer on Coleman for a 7th? Most everyone loved the move at the time. And they didn't cut AJM, they traded him for a decent draft pick because NO ONE was gonna trade us a 5th for Peterman and they wanted to start Allen anyway. They said multiple times the plan was to start Allen week 1, but his 3rd preseason game where he struggled and got dinged up gave them pause to see if they can prepare a little more before starting. NP had a solid preseason then flopped...so they made the switch early.
Im not saying ultimately this all works out. I am saying they haven't even begun the offensive rebuild yet outside Allen. We won't truly know what kind of path we are on until we see the results of how they use 10 draft picks and 90M in cap space to work on the offense this off season.
Again, this is so incredibly false. It's bordering on comical how vehemently you are defending this incompetent coach & GM.
You deserve a medal for the mental gymnastics you are performing in order to arrive at these ridiculous points.
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11 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Beane did not trade draft Zay Jones. Beane is our GM spear heading our rebuild, so irrelevant. Plus Zay is on an inept offense with an inept QB, hard to still judge his second year right now.
The ONLY reason they traded for KB...ONLY reason was because Bills shocked everyone and made a playoff push and they made a move to try and help that playoff push because Jordan couldn't get healthy. Unfortunately, KB got hurt when he got here, but the move was about the playoff run and trying to bring some help midseason at WR, and starting WR's aren't often available mid season.
So sorry, but you're off base here
See below.
4 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said:So they were tanking all along, but once they won a few games, they stopped tanking. Now that they suck, they're back to tanking. It's hard to keep up with these geniuses because they're so ahead of the curve.
Thank you for breaking it down.
What he said.
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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
You dont seem to know the difference of building and fielding. The ONLY piece of the future they went out and got is Allen. They have NOT begun the offensive rebuild. But they STILL need to FIELD a team in the mean time. Offensive rebuild rally starts this offseason.
So... trading a 3rd round pick for Kelvin Benjamin and trading UP for Zay Jones don't count? If you're correct (You're not) that these are just temporary players holding down roster spots, then McDermott should be fired for wasting picks and not recognizing the value of draft capital.
You are literally making an even better case for McD & BB to be removed.
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3 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
You are not very good at this. Who the F cares about the blowouts, this IS NOT THE OFFENSE THEY ARE BUILDING. I mean even a 4th grader can understand that. They have NOT begun to fix the offense yet outside drafting Allen. That is THIS year. Both Beane and McD have stressed the importance of a passing attack in todays NFL, the DO NOT HAVE THE PERSONNEL YET TO DO IT. I mean WTF is so hard for people to understand about that?????? Seriously? They drafted their QB with the tools to lead a big passing game, next offseason its about adding the pieces around him to execute it. For F**KS sake, its not rocket science.
I get all that, but NO ONE knows what McD can do yet. This is NOT even close to what he is trying to build. He took a team led by TT who just about everyone here said could NEVER make the playoffs with TT and did just that. Now he has a rookie QB, who also got hurt and no real support around him yet. They are focusing on the offense this next year, we won't know what kind of a HC McD can be until then. To judge him with the worst offensive peronnel in the league is absurd is my point.
McDermott personally identified and built just about the entire offense. The only holdovers are LeSean McCoy & Charles Clay.
The QBs, the OCs (one already failed, one currently failing), 4 of the 5 starting OL, all of the WRs... McD picked all of them.The offense is HIS offense. This historically bad offense is the product of HIS management.
Also, Mike Tolbert.
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On 11/4/2018 at 7:01 PM, John from Riverside said:
I don’t think it is going to take a few years but I agree with the rest
They need to do for josh Allen what they did for trbisky and the offense will improve drasically
I didn’t start out that way I just realized it as time went on
i was pretty noncommittal on how well this team would do this year from the start
Yes, exactly! The Bills need to fire their current terrible, backwards "establish the line of scrimmage" coach and hire a smart, innovative coach to ignite the offense.
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10 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:
They fired a bad coach, not a defensive coach. This stupid notion that you cant coach if you come from defensive side is beyond stupid. Go ask the Pats what they think of your thoughts.
Go read my man Reed83HOF's post from a few minutes ago. BB just happens to be a defensive coach who realized how stupid it was to prioritize defense and the running game over a decade ago. He evolved and dictated where the league was going to go. It helped that he also had the best QB to ever play the game, too. But he didn't have Tommy hand off 30 times a game to "establish the line of scrimmage" -- he unleashed an innovative nuclear passing attack on the league.
Pretty much aligns exactly with what I'm saying.
You are really not very good at this.
6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:Here is the thing thought: People need to stop comparing McD to Fox or Fisher. They got fired for being bad HC's. Fisher has the most losses in NFL history for instance.
There is fairy tale going on amongst this board that suddenly feels this false narrative that a HC with defensive backgrounds cant be good NFL HC's...all the while Belicheck has dominated the NFL and this division for almost 20 years as a defensive minded HC.
How many 20+ point blowout losses does McD have so far?
You are really, really not very good at this.
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2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said:
Not true. He and Beane said repeatedly this is a passing league and its critical you can throw from the pocket. There is a REASON they took a QB with a big arm...thats to throw.
Some of you cant separate what he wants to do with the only thing this team can do. We have no passing attack, you act like he CHOOSES not to have it. Our young QB is hurt, our WR and OL is subpar. He is trying to run because this team cant currently throw. Not because he feels we should just be a power run team.
Some of you really need to separate yourselves from this year and get a grip. Trubisky playing almost a full season only threw SEVEN TD's last year...SEVEN. Now look at him with new weapons around him to work with and a year under his belt. Different team now and they are looking to throw more and downfield more despite being a run first team prior because they couldn't throw.
I'm sure that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fact that the Bears fired their old-school "defensive-minded" head coach and then hired a bright, young, innovative offensive-minded coach.
Thank you for making yet another very strong case for firing McDermott ASAP. I appreciate it.
2 hours ago, jrober38 said:I don't think Allen is going to hit.
I didn't see any flashes from him. At best he completed throws any NFL starting QB should be expected to complete and at his worst he didn't look like he belonged on the field.
I think you're counting your chickens before they actually hatch.
Mahomes is a stud.
If we offered the Chiefs Allen, White, Edmunds, Phillips and Johnson for Mahomes, they'd laugh in our face.
I wish I could give this post 2 trophies.
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10 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:
No, $$ talks. They will have no issue. They will need to overpay, but they will
That's exactly the point of my original post. Thank you for agreeing with me.
They may have $90M to spend, but every player they sign will cost them significantly more than any other team would have to spend. Free Agency is not going to be a solution to the Offensive problems. Also, the overpayment in terms of total dollars and contract length that the Bills will have to shell out to mediocre talent will only serve to put them in salary cap jail in a few years when these average players inevitably burst into flames.
McDermott & Beane have already set this team back until 2023. The only hope they have is that Josh Allen turns into Peyton Roethlisbrady next season and is so good that he is able to overcome the abject offensive incompetence of the coaching staff.
Beane’s Offensive Negligence
in The Stadium Wall
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"Better" is a relative term. Those games could have gone either way, especially today since the Bills went in with an already-decimated roster.