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30 minutes ago, Buffalo Ballin said:
Nah. Blame Diggs for what? He's NOT the GM.
No he’s the #1 WR. Man the ***** up after getting your 160 targets and getting paid dude.
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I think it’s fair to question Beane giving Diggs the contract extension but could you imagine if he didn’t give Diggs one? People complaining about Beane, would you also be blaming Beane if Josh Allen forced his way out a month before the draft and the Bills didn’t double dip with a QB in round 4?
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9 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:
Dude what aren't you understanding, they don't know who KC wants but they want someone. Unless they're offering a 1st or maybe 2nd I wouldn't have done it. Especially to just take a backup DT in the 3rd
As a side effect it exposes you didn't want who you nd up picking later that bad
lol at getting a first for moving 4 spots back at the end of the first. NFL draft how do they work? The but but Beane says we have a great wr group are hilarious. What’s he going to do? Throw them all under the bus like Diggs would? I’m sure he will continue to target people either through free agency, trades, draft next year after we take our Diggs medicine this year.
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Hoping KC doesn’t get the 1 player is ridiculous when there are so many players still available and it’s only a few picks later. Praying San Fran picks worthy isn’t a draft strategy that helps your team.
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6 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:
Ok, but one more point. KC's guy could've been picked by SF. We guaranteed they got the guy they want. You can say we can't worry about other teams but we absolutely can.
So by your logic KC only liked worthy and only worthy. San Fran also by your logic only liked worthy and would have taken him and yet San Fran didn’t try to move up to secure him. Also KC could have traded with any of the other teams ahead of San Fran. Look these teams aren’t stupid. They probably had a good idea who they liked. It didn’t matter, KC was always going to get him one way or another. We got one of our guys. Move on.
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2 minutes ago, Logic said:
My contention is that you need DEPTH in the NFL. That 3 viable WRs is not enough. That one injury will have us depending on Mack Hollins or Justin Shorter for offensive production, and that that's a bad position to be in for a team with a franchise QB in his prime.
My contention is that one of the ways to address this issue would have been to spend a 2nd or 3rd day pick on another wide receiver. The draft is a crapshoot, and the more darts you throw at the WR position, the greater the chance that one of the guys you picks turns out to be a good player. Instead, the Bills threw just ONE dart, and if he doesn't come out swinging as a rookie, the Bills WR corps will be woeful.Who is to say they don’t sign a free agent like Boyd or trade for someone? Also there is only 1 football and that is mainly going to be going through cook, Kincaid, Shakir just like when they were winning last year. They added Samuels and Coleman, they sign someone like Boyd and how many more people do they need? Just drafting people to draft people doesn’t translate to winning games this year. I think when the Bills have identified weapons they like that they know will have a meaningful impact either through the draft or trade like Diggs they will strike. They drafted someone this year, relax people.
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Just now, Logic said:
Nah.
Beane went into a very deep WR draft armed with 11 picks. He had so many that he traded one away for a 2025 pick instead.
He came out of the weekend with just one wide receiver prospect. He managed to add TWO offensive tackles, spend 4th round capital on a running back, and add a special teams linebacker and a punt returner...but he couldn't bring himself to take more than one bite at the apple at the biggest need position on the roster.
Diggs may have set things in motion, but Beane had ample opportunity to do more to address the wide receiver position this weekend and chose not to.
So your answer was picking a late round wr that wasn’t going to play over Shakir Coleman and Samuel’s? That was the answer?
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2 minutes ago, mrags said:
I’m kind of there too. If he truly was “their guy” then why did they chance not taking him at 28 or 32? What happens if one of those 5 picks was Coleman? Then we’d be saying that AD Mitchell was our guy all along.
Fair point but this can all be answered by saying that they got one of their “guys”. Other teams are going to get players as well. We can’t pick them all.
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3 minutes ago, ngbills said:
Bingo. You see this be all the time. Jones in kc sat out a game and it was puppy dogs and rainbows after winning a Super Bowl again.
I saw jones making plays to help his team win a Super Bowl. I saw Diggs come up short and throw his teammates under the bus. Diggs is a boy compared to Jones.
I also defended Diggs and have been on record as not being a McDermott fan and wanting him fired. But the day Diggs came up short and refused to look in the mirror in addition to his toxic media posts was the day that the Bills were left with no choice then to move on.
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1 minute ago, Bills Bud said:
I blame McDermott and Beane for paying Diggs while playing for another team. I don’t care if he wanted to leave, he was under contract
He was under contract but you cannot expect to compete and have 1 guy that isn’t bought in and is supposed to be the leader of the team. It doesn’t work like that. Sorry.
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3 minutes ago, ngbills said:
It was widely discussed as the best wr class in a long time. That was the narrative. It was what all the scouts and professionals that get paid have said.
So the Bills are not better than the 2019 version? That lost to HOU after sneaking in the playoffs. That is crazy talk. If that is true McD and Beane should be fired for destroying a roster with Allen as your qb.I don’t put that much stock in people making up narratives so they have something to talk about. We just had 6 qbs go in the first 12 picks. Is this also the best QB draft? Look there were 3 really good prospects and then 4-25 all had some flaws just like most other drafts. Shakir was a 5th round pick that no one liked and his catch rate and yards per catch were fantastic the last 11 weeks. There’s only 1 football and the Bills already have some weapons on offense. Maybe not a top 5 wr but I expect the Bills to be competitive with the guys they have plus the guy targeted at pick 33.
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Just now, ngbills said:
It was widely discussed as the best wr class in a long time. That was the narrative. It was what all the scouts and professionals that get paid have said.
So the Bills are not better than the 2019 version? That lost to HOU after sneaking in the playoffs. That is crazy talk. If that is true McD and Beane should be fired for destroying a roster with Allen as your qb.We were up and coming in 2019. We just released a ton an older players this offseason. Have you been sleeping through the offseason? We also have a ridiculous amount of dead cap space this year.
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Just now, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:
Why can't he be one of those in the group rated the same?
Thats possible but what’s your point? They ended up with a guy they liked and helped fill another position on the team. I have a feeling though that Worthy was not rated that highly on their board. I think the worthy pick by KC was pretty obvious and the Bills didn’t care.
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2 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said:
Why don't you actually read what I said. I'm not crying & I didn't say you can't change game plans. I also agree F*** Diggs.
I just disagree with the Topic's premise that Diggs made this WR room instead of Beane. Diggs leaving no more made this room than Davis leaving. The guy in charge who makes the decisions is Beane that's why we pay him & the buck stops with him. So whatever this WR room is, he made it. No more weak a** excuses, he's the boss he owns it.
We still have all of our main producers from the end of last season Kincaid, Shakir & Cook & we almost beat KC with them. Now we have Samuel & Coleman (I would expect that makes us better). If that turns out to be even better that's Beane's accomplishment not Diggs. Of course if we take a step back, that's Beane too (which is possible bc as Beane said at the presser we're transitioning the team to get younger, which I'm all for, but takes time to come together).
I agree with your points except that it’s not Beanes fault that Diggs is going to turn into a complete cancer after giving him a huge extension and giving him 160 targets even though he lost a step. That’s 100% on Diggs.
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They most likely had a few guys rates the same and weren’t that high on Worthy that they just had to pick him.
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4 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:
No, you're completely ignoring the fact that the Bills punted the choice. They didn't know who KC would take (but had to know it would probably be a WR)
I’m actually not ignoring the fact. They 100% knew KC might pick a WR. They didn’t care. It was 100% in the Bills hands and they were ok with moving back.
2 minutes ago, H2o said:What it boils down to is the Bills supposed Draft Board. They valued and wanted Coleman above anyone else at #33. After that, there was no WR they saw as worthy of the draft slot they were in at the time. Do I agree with their board? No. I would have taken Legette at #32 instead of trading out. Then, if I wanted Coleman, I would have done what it took to trade up in the 2nd to get him. I believe this team could have gone a different route afterwards to address S and DT because the 2nd would have still been spent on Coleman and the 3rd would likely have been involved. The whole draft could have been different. This was the year to double dip at the top end for WR's, especially in light of our current situation. They didn't. They kept it par for the course. It was quite disappointing.
You have no clue that Coleman would have been there at 60. That is a ridiculous statement to make just based off of your armchair gm predictions. I’ve seen Coleman going in the first with some mocks.
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Just now, ngbills said:
With a worse roster we traded a 1st for Diggs. Now with a Super Bowl contender we trade Diggs and in a potentially once in a decade WR draft we don’t make a move.
lol at once in a decade. There were 3 high quality prospects that we had no chance of drafting. We got our guy that was in the second tier. RELAX. This team is also not in better shape than the year we traded for Diggs. That is crazy talk.
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2 minutes ago, julian said:
Ok , I was like whoa that took a turn lol.. I certainly don’t blame Diggs for wanting out if he believed this Coaching staff and or management wasn’t able to do what’s necessary to win. I just wish if that was the case he would say it, or have his brother say it and I’d actually respect it.
The way he just slimed his way out of two teams now being cryptic using Twitter and being a distraction.. I have zero respect for it, garbage.
And you know be the reason why the team lost by dropping the ball. Like idk how people don’t see this?
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12 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:
Why does it have to be a 4th round rookie? They let KC and a few other SB competitor teams have a choice first only to move up to the 3rd. Then decided to stay put and get a backup DT
You are totally ignoring the fact that the Bills had the choice. They passed and they passed for a reason. Many other evaluators did not like worthy at all and I was also in that camp. I’m a little worried about Legette but Coleman was their guy and they went out and got him and also were able to get the DT they wanted. Maybe in a couple years we can judge but anyone judging now is talking out of their ass
13 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:I blame the Gm and coach who is the only team in the NFL to not draft a WR in the first 3 rounds in 5 years. With Josh Allen as your qb
Dude they traded a first round pick for Diggs. They had Stephon Diggs are you high?
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16 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said:
Exactly, if you can't smooth things over with Diggs that's on you. Ignore him and benefit from his on field play and try to win a superbowl again. The reason Cincinatti gave for not trading Higgins was "We're trying to win a superbowl"
The diggs position the bills were in is nothing like the Higgins situation. Night and day difference.
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3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said:
You can blame diggs for a lot of things but roster construction is not one of them
First thing I’d blame him for is not catching passes in critical situations. You know his job that he’s paid a ton a money to do.
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2 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:
It's a cut throat business. They cut players all the time. Why get mad at a player for essentially cutting the team?
Because he’s a B word lol
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3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:
Smoke on that one Roc....but you seem to be content for the 2024 rebuild...it didn't have to be that way.
I’m sorry what other way was there? Giving up a ton a draft picks for a rookie? Who says the teams that picked the top 3 WRs even wanted to trade down? You are the people making up these ridiculous unrealistic situations that aren’t based in reality.
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2 minutes ago, ngbills said:
Then you do what it takes to move up and grab at least one of the top 4 if not top 3. This was the time to sell out and get into the top 10. We have cap space next season and could used free agency and not have a 1st rounder. Heck we didn’t use a first this year so what is the difference?
No it wasn’t they have too many holes to fill but they will still compete. Who says they don’t get a true #1 next year either through the draft or free agency. They had to move on this year.
If you’re upset about the WR room - BLAME DIGGS
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So we are supposed to gameplan for him being a quitter after giving him a fat contract, got it. I thought you all said he’s a winner though and he just cares so much about winning. Idk many winners that act like that. I think you could argue the contract extension but could you imagine not giving him one and the backlash that would have ensued?