Theshallowcross
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7 minutes ago, Foxx said:
i don't buy your entire argument here. Peterman was clocked at what, 53mph? that is 2 mph slower then the bottom rung of your supposed metric. do you honestly think that he can't improve the velocity of his throw by 2 mph, minimum?
It's not my metric but I definitely believe in the data. That 2 MPH slower velocity equates to 3 feet traveled on a 20 yard throw. Which is a huge passing window in the NFL. It's the difference between a completion and a turnover from an NFL level corner.
The data shows very clearly that sub 55 velocity is a deathknell for quarterback prospects.
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17 minutes ago, Doc said:
Funny that the only rookie QB who has looked like he'll be worth anything was Watson with a 49 MPH BV. Oh and BTW, Peterman is 6' 2-5/8", not 6' 2-1/8", so he's actually closer to 6' 3".
I have to admit that after seeing Watson's BV, along with being just 6' 2" and having been surrounded with talent at Clemson, I thought he'd be a bust. Goes to show you that it's not that easy to predict a QB's success in the NFL.
Watson has started 6 games. That's it. Small sample size cherry picks like that prove nothing. Even if somehow Watson becomes great, he is nothing more than an outlier. If you look at that list and glean anything, it should be obvious that quarterbacks who are sub 55 velocity don't ever work out. That's exactly what the data says and there is a lot more of that data then there is of Watson and his 6 games.
Everyone is hoping that Peterman is an outlier but statistically speaking, it doesn't look promising.
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The biggest thing to take from this (which has now been tracked since 2008) is that QBs with velocity of 55 or less, just simply haven't been successful in the long-term. Here is a good article.
Hoping for the best for Peterman but I don't think it matter who the QB is because the OLine and Dennison are absolutely horrendous.
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5 minutes ago, ctk232 said:
Can't like this post enough - I was hoping my engendered Bills-flavored skepticism would finally be wrong. I give them til November every year no matter what. And while I still hold optimistic hope for a turnaround, it's beginning to look more like it was the turnover differential.
Our offense hasn't changed. Defense was the pleasant beneficiary of our +14 differential, and now without the ball bouncing our way 2-3 times a game, we're left with what the team actually is. I have yet to remember a time where I watched the Bills offense with confidence that we will do more than go three and out. And yet, I still hope they prove me wrong this year!
Stopping the run and rushing the passer creates turnovers. We haven't done either well in 2 games.
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12 hours ago, MAJBobby said:
I just want a Modern NFL offense. Is that too much to ask
McDermott should've hired Ken Dorsey the Carolina QB coach. Hopefully after the season he does exactly that. Dennison is horrible and his scheme is antiquated.
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32 minutes ago, Sweats said:
I would rather have a gunslinger at the helm, throwing the ball all over the place..........at least it makes the games enjoyable.
A "play safe" QB won't amount to much in todays NFL's passing systems and we are witnessing some really piss poor play this past few weeks Dare i even say that it is boring, lethargic and antic-climactic.........3 and outs allllllllllllllllllllll afternoon ain't gonna cut it.
Alex Smith has been very successful for the past 12 years playing exactly that way. With a good defense that is a recipe for success. I actually think that Taylor could be a more dynamic version of Alex Smith because of his ability with his legs. That's probably his ceiling. But I am also ok with that.
My problem stems from the offensive coordinator. For one, I think his offense is inherently stagnant and antiquated. He also came in and injected that stale offense into a league leading power running game and a run pass option (RPO) spread attack that was poised to take another step forward in year 3 of that style of offense. Instead, he comes in and instead of adapting to the talent he forced his scheme on an offensive line that wasn't suited for it.
I think Dennison was a really bad hire for McDermott. Hopefully he fires him when the season is over.
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I don't think that we're reinventing the wheel when we say that turnovers are important and I don't think that creating turnovers is flukey. Creating turnovers is a sustainable skill.
Over the last two games and since the Dareus trade (coincidence I'm sure) this defense has a serious issue stopping the run. Through the first 7 games of the season the Bills allowed 561 rushing yards. In the last two games the Bills have allowed 492 rushing yards. They've allowed 9 rushing touchdowns in that same 2 game span. Compared to 5 rushing TDs allowed in the previous 7 games.
I get that the other side of the Dareus argument is his low snap count. But what is not being considered is that it thins the depth and that doesn't allow for fresh guys coming in and having a deeper rotation. McDermott also underestimated the talent of the players behind Dareus. He was a presence and without him they have been absolutely putrid. We have 7 days and a cross country plane ride to figure it out. If we don't start stopping the run immediately, this season is going to spiral out of control.
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2 minutes ago, Wayne Arnold said:
I'd rather he throw completions or incompletions.
Actually an interception would've been better than the sack-fumble.
He got hit from behind while scrambling. Literally every QB fumbles that ball
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2 hours ago, BuffaloBill said:
So Tyrod has escapbility. Why is everyone so fascinated with this? It has not led to w’s consistently. It seems to me that many want to believe he is the QB of the future because of all of these meaningless statistics. At the end of the day the real question is does the guy win? The answer so far has been: about half of the time.
QB winzzzz.
Such a faulty statistic. Seems strange when you dismiss other "meaningless statistics".
1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said:No one is excusing the line play. They took a dump against the Jets. But a good QB knows that he can't take seven sacks. Especially in an offense that is far from productive. Those sacks are killers. Get the ball out.
Would you rather he throw interceptions?
Peterman Arm Strength
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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What it boils down to is velocity. Nothing more nothing less. I understand that we all want to try and explain away the data but sometimes it just is what it is and what it is, is that no sub 55 passer has ever broken the trend.
Expecting a 5th round rookie who never carried an offense even in college to do so probably won't end well. Taylors velocity was sub 55 and he is now on the bench. That sub 55 velocity will become even more of a big deal when you're throwing in the elements in Western New York where its cold and windy.
Again, I hope I'm wrong and I hope that Peterman is the exception to the rule, the outlier, but I wouldn't bet against the data.