BuffaloRush
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That dude sucks. He blocked me on Twitter for criticizing him. Funny how he can criticize the Bills but can't take the heat himself
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47 minutes ago, Dunkirk Don said:
I have it from a reliable source, Tyrod will be under center. Peterman will not be ready. Injury more serious than believed. Webb will be back up. Logan Thomas taking snaps as emergency qb
Always tough to take message board members who say they have "sources." Time will tell
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1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:
Unsportsmanlike is such a vague / gray area. I am sure they could have arguably done that.
i was actually thinking during the game that the grounds crew should have come out and blow snow all over the area. Can’t penalize them!!
Right that's what I'm saying. Home field advantage.
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2 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:
The outcome of the game doesn't really matter for the Colts.
They had a 4th and 4 from their own 31. Going for it (and not converting) would have been viewed pretty negatively around the league.
So kicking the ball away and basically playing for a tie would be seen as more positive, than trying to win the game? Maybe by the same conservative minded coaches who would have punted the ball on 4th and 1 in overtime. I disagree. You play to the win the game. It's should be viewed the same as needing points on 4th-and-4 at the 31. You go for it everytime. Pagano made a weakass decision. Should be grilled for it
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1 minute ago, ganesh said:
What if the Colts lined up and caught the Bills for encroachment.
Nope - this was after the clock was stopped. The Colts had called a time out. You can't run a play during a timeout. I'm telling you this is one interesting scenario. Would not be surprised to see a team try to kick the snow back on the spot as a strategy.
1 minute ago, JR in Pittsburgh said:I was thinking the same. Was worried that the refs would call an unsportsmanlike penalty for something like that.
Yeah but can they? I'm not sure if they could in that situation
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You can't blame the Bills for moving on. He was always hurt. When Goodwin was active though, he was a good player. Glad to see him succeed
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I was thinking the same thing.
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1 minute ago, ganesh said:
This madness called Coaching carousel must stop. The Bills have to let the coaching staff draft and develop their players. We gave Rex 2 years and he drafted a lot of 3-4 personnel only to be ripped out by Sean. Rex himself killed the past by converting from a 4-3 to 3-4. You just can't keep changing the schemes and hope that the same piece works in different schemes. First give McD an opportunity to get his QB in place.
Personally, I think if you have the wrong guy at HC you don't keep him for continuity sake. History has shown, it's not a good idea. Rex was the wrong guy and the Pegulas made the right choice.
I think the Pegulas though think like you - I would be surprised if McDermott doesn't get at least 4 years barring back-to-back catastrophic
seasons.
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1 hour ago, PolishDave said:
What did McDermott say his logic was? I missed it.
Oh...
And obviously the Colts fans don't know football.
McDermott said in a bad weather game, field position was very important. He was confident his defense could force a 3 and out and get the ball back with decent field position. Like I said, he makes an attempt to give an explanation - but what's Pagano's excuse
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7 hours ago, The juice said:
Week after week it seems like a poor coaching decision happens. In game or out of game with the tyrod benching. I really do not believe he is head coach material
The way I see it, McDermott will likely get at least 3 more years, if not all 4. Here's why:
1 - Pegulas have will have gone through 3 coaches since taking over. I know they don't want to be known as owners that don't give coaches a shot Plus I know Terry informally speaks with oldtime NFL coaches and GM's (Bill Polian for example) and they will encourage him to stay the course.
2 - McDermott has a ton of power around One Bills Drive. More than any coach has in a while and that's because Terry gave him that control. Again, I don't think Terry takes it away so suddenly
3 - Brandon Beane is the GM and he basically is tied to McDermott. IMO the two are a package deal. I can't see Terry firing one without the other.
Only way I see a quick exit is two horrendous seasons 1-3 wins kind of bad. I'm sure both Beane and McDermott prepped Terry that this year could be rough since they are turning over the roster, so 2017 might actually be viewed as a success.
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I was listening the Bills post game coverage on WGR and an interesting question popped up. Toward the end of the game the Colts had worked together to kick snow off of the area that Vinitierri was getting ready to kick from. The question was brought up, could the Bills defenders have gone over and kicked the snow back onto the area they cleared without penalty. Honestly, I have no idea what the rules are in that situations. I suppose you could say it's like a player trying to sneak over in their opponent's huddle? But I don't know.
It certainly is an interesting scenario which only plays out every few years. The hosts on WGR (the guys that come after Schoop and the Bulldog) seemed pretty young and didn't knpw what would happen. Curious is anyone know the official rule. Can a defense kick snow back on the spot opponents have cleared?
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2 minutes ago, Binghamton Beast said:
Pagano may want to be a head coach again in the NFL.
Making dumb decisions like going for it deep in your own territory, in OT, probably wouldn’t help his cause moving forward.
Glad I'm not the only one that found it to be dumb. He punted with 4:00 minutes left in overtime. What could his logic have been? McDermott explained his logic, and while I think it's very flawed, he at least gave a half-assed explanation. I can't figure out what Pagano must have been thinking. When you punt with 4:00 left, there's a good chance you'll never the ball again. Even if you stop the Bills, you'll get the ball back with little time when kicking conditions were horrendous.
What in the world was he thinking?
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5 hours ago, Domdab99 said:
A tie does not help this team, right?
So why not go for it? If they fail, they still have to stop the Colts, just like if they punt it. But this way, they actually have a better shot at winning the game!
Why is this so hard to understand?
Like Rex last year, I'm not sure if McDermott knew a tie is barely better than a loss when trying to make the playoffs
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Just now, PolishDave said:
You are on a Bills board dude.
Bet if you scan the Colts boards there are some people bitching about it. Or maybe they figure they have more important things to worry about.
Nope, I looked - no one gave a damn about it. Maybe that's where they are at with a 3-9 team
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I have to admit, I lost a lot of confidence in Sean McDermott today. While many fans were grilling him for benching Tyrod for Peterman, I understood why that move could have been made - although it was a very bad move in hindsight.
Today, I felt his punt call was absolutely terrible. Honestly, it was worse that Rex's decision to punt vs. Miami last season and worse than some of the alarmingly conservative decisions to punt by Doug Marrone which literally cost the Bills some football games. It was a miracle that Joe Webb was able to bail the Bills out today and I hope that it doesn't reinforce McDermott's conservative mindset, because if it does, this organization's in trouble.
But as bad as the call was on McDermott, I felt that Chuck Pagano's decision to punt right back was equally as bad. Yet, I have heard no one criticize the coach on that choice. Indianapolis is 3-9. Does it really make a difference if they tie rather than lose? Pagano is just going to fired anyway so who cares? Surprisingly, I haven't heard any criticism of Pagano or the Colts. If I am Jim Irsay, I would fire Pagano tomorrow
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Just now, Boatdrinks said:
While these things are largely true, the OPs question was regarding external factors in the drought .
My bad..it helps if you actually read the entire post!
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1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:
Ralph Wilson played a role in the drought for sure. He fired Bill Polian, which more than likely made a tremendous difference to the team's future performance on the field. He also fired Wade Phillips , who had a winning record as coach. Phillips is also a proven defensive guru , and could have kept that side of the ball strong for some time. The Tom Donahoe hire wasn't a bad one on paper, but he made some questionable decisions. His trade deal with Houston that would have brought Roethlisberger to the Bills in the ' 04 draft was his most impactful failure , though a near miss. What transpired after that was forever altered. After his firing, Donahoe's iron fisted style made Wilson gun shy about the team's power structure. That affected his GM choices, beginning with the spectacularly unqualified Marv Levy. Wilson was now insular to a fault, and a series of uninspired Head Coach hirings and GM choices would ensue. Lastly, Wilsons age and lack of a well known succession plan for ownership after his demise began to have an impact. More highly regarded Head Coches shunned the idea of taking a job with so many unknowns in the team's power hierarchy and even future location. This led to a constant churn of coaches and systems , even the early departure of Doug Marrone who seemed to have the team going in the right direction. This is no way detracting from Ralph's legacy or how he took pains to make it a virtual lock the Bills would remain in Buffalo after his death. All while managing to enrich his foundation for the purposes of charity at the same time. That is completely separate from the question, which is totally dealing with the impact that Wilson had on the drought . His impact was a pretty major one , in my opinion.
I agree with this 100%
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On 12/8/2017 at 9:23 PM, klos63 said:
Jairus Byrd- he was a dynamic player on the level of Ed Reed for most of his 5 years with the Bills. I thought he was on his way to a HOF career.
YES great example. He slipped my mind but I definitely should have added him to my life
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8 hours ago, corta765 said:
Obviously the Bills have done a spectacular job at creating their own barriers so they have missed the playoffs for 17 straight years pushing 18 now. That said I wanted to lay out some factors that are not the Bills fault that have helped to impede the Bills making the playoffs during this time:
NFL's shift to making the league a QB driven league to a potentially unhealthy point:One of my majors gripes as a football fan in general is how the game has drastically changed where QB's are the focus to a point the team doesn't matter. The rule changes in 03, 04, 07, & 10 gave QB's a significant advantage that still hasn't been accounted for. Back before the rule changes it was possible to have a team was a decent defense and running game make the playoffs and win a round even if the QB was dog crap. QB play still determined the outcome for Super Bowls and you generally need a top QB to win a SB unless your defense is DEN or SEA like, but the league use to emphasize the rest of the team far more. These days if you hit a QB a split second late high its a penalty, low its a penalty, intentional grounding is almost never called anymore, and WRs are protected by the rules more making it easier for QBs to either get them the ball or draw a penalty. You could draw back some of these rules a bit where player safety is still prioritized first but the defense has a better shot. Additionally if QB's are getting the ball out faster even just to throw it away start enforcing intentional grounding more. It's kind of insane the current rules that if you throw the ball remotely near a player when chased it isn't even questioned as illegal.
New England Patriots:
Fair or not the Bills have been stuck with the best dynasty run potentially ever. Swing a game or two here in just a few seasons and the Bills probably sneak in at 9-7 or 10-6. The record vs NE is incredible and its gotten to the point of almost always being a guaranteed loss. If your routinely starting the season 0-2 that is a hard place to come from.
Number of NFL Teams:
When the NFL expanded the playoffs to add the 6th WC spot they did so because the percentage of teams that make the playoffs was in the low 30% range. When they added the 6th spot they did so because it made it where around 44% of the league made the playoffs increasing competition and giving everyone a better chance. Since the 90s expansion though that number has reverted back down to 37.5%. Had another spot been open the odds favor that one of the seasons the Bills were 9-7 or potentially couldve gone 9-7 they sneak in. Not the best situation for BUF to make the playoffs but it would've killed the drought. Additionally with more NFL teams there is less high end talent and good QB's available for teams to have making it even more difficult to find and field a strong roster.
NFL Rules:
During the drought the Bills have caught the poor side of some officiating that has blown back in our face. None looms larger then the home opener loss to the Jaguars in 04 where we knocked the Jags TE out of bounds and were penalized at the time because we impeded his ability to catch the ball. TD Jags and loss BUF. What sucks is that rule no longer exists and had the Bills won they would've made the playoffs. Continuing the them of QB's and the Patriots, the Bills got the brunt of the rule changes that enhanced QB play with Brady. The best way to beat him is to hit him a lot and jam his WR's. Well guess what the NFL alters that and makes both far harder.
Bad luck despite 5-1 or 5-2 starts:
Statistically if you start 5-1 or 5-2 you have about a 73% chance of making the playoffs. If your 5-1 you don't even need to be above .500 just go 5-5 and your most likely making it. The Bills 3 separate times have defied odds drastically in their favor to a maddening level. In the end this does fall back on them, but fans have gotten to the point we are more terrified at 5-1 or 5-2 then excited. That's insane haha
In my opinion, the answer is much more simple. The Bills as an organization continually empowered the wrong the people to make key decisions for the organization. Like him or not, it starts with Ralph WIlson. In my opinion, he's the reason for the drought. After the Tom Donahoe experiment failed, Ralph relied on people he knew, rather the best fir for the position. It extends to bad decisions for GM (Marv Levy, Russ Brandon, Buddy Nix, Doug Whaley) who hired bad coaches and made poor personnel decisions.
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10 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said:
Good post and topic. I'm thankful to Ralph C Wilson for founding the Buffalo Bills, ensuring they stayed in Buffalo after his death, and being one of the original owners who helped form today's NFL. The Buffalo Bills are a part of who I am, and am grateful to Ralph.
I think Ralph loved the Bills, western NY, and was well intentioned. I have no doubt he wanted a winner. My opinion of where he went wrong was inserting himself in the football operations which ultimately lead to the firing of Bill Polian. Granted, Polian had a strong personality from what I understand, but had they got along better, who knows how history would have changed. It's possible that Ralph had a hard time adjusting to a model where the owner stayed hands off in the background and let a President/GM run the show. When he realized this, Ralph eventually ended up making a bad hire in Tom Donahoe and things didn't start improving until years later.
It will be interesting to read everyones posts on this topic.
I hear you - I think the loss of Polian was huge, but the staff that he assembled stayed in place after he left. The very talented roster he put together and football operation guys like John Butler and AJ Smith helped keep the team strong for years.
I do have to defend Ralph on the Donahoe hire. At the time, it was being hailed as a great move by both fans, local media, and national media alike. He was an instrumental part of the Steelers success. We didn't know he'd be such a miserable control freak. He rightfully cut the cord with Donahoe, but the experience was so scary for Ralph he was hesitant to ever give someone outside the organization any power or control that he didn't have a personal relationship with.
11 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:I think giving 6 or 8 hundred million dollars to the Buffalo area makes up for a lot of lost football games.
And not selling out the city to get an enormous amount of extra money like The Chargers, Browns, Raiders, Rams, and I forget who all else did. makes up for a lot of lost football games.
And working the lease so it bound the team to us even after he was dead, makes up for a lot of lost football games.
Plus you can't reasonably blame Ralph Wilson for the games we have lost after he was dead.
Those are my thoughts.
This is one of those post I have at long last, learned not to make!
Even though I wanna.
So, no comment.
As I stated earlier, you can't deny that Ralph was not charitable or the fact the he never sold out the city. From a football owner standpoint he made a ton of mistakes and was not a good owner. This is why I'm conflicted.
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41 minutes ago, BadLandsMeanie said:
I went to the screening of this at WNED a couple weeks ago. It's a good show
Was the movie more of a love letter about Ralph? Or was it a fair look at some of the mistakes he made as owner of the Bills. Because there have been many
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In the light of the new WNED documentary Ralph premiering soon, it got me thinking quite a bit about Ralph C. Wilson.
Not sure how other fans feel about him, but personally I am torn. On one hand the Bills fans have to love Ralph’s dedication to keeping the franchise in Buffalo. If he was greedy, he had multiple chances to relocate or could have sold the franchise years earlier. Instead, he appeared to be dedicated to keeping the team in Buffalo. I always got the impression that his wife, Russ Brandon, and Littman would never sell the team to someone with intentions of relocating. If it wasn’t for RCW, we wouldn’t have a team in Western, NY. For that we should all be grateful to him.
On the other hand however, I think Ralph is the biggest reason for the Buffalo Bills near 20 year drought. Folks, from a football perspective Ralph made some TERRIBLE TERRIBLE decisions that crippled the franchise. At least in the 30 years that I’ve been following the team. IMO he made many poor decisions each of which are rooted in the losing culture of this franchise.
There’s many examples of where Ralph’s rash decisions, greatly hurt the football organization:
- Firing Bill Polian
- Demanding Rob Johnson start over Doug Flutie
- Firing Wade Phillips for not firing Ronnie Jones
- Firing John Butler (though I think Butler was hell-bent on leaving)
These moves were all killers and in most cases, they could have been avoided. But I think that Ralph’s worst work came after he hired Tom Donahoe as GM and president. The hiring itself wasn’t a bad choice. On paper, we had reason to be excited with Donahoe as GM. But it turned out to be a disaster and it would mark the last time that Ralph would look outside the organization for anyone in a position of power. He also was notoriously cheap. Not on players - we all know what kind of deals he gave out to players in Free Agency. But he appeared to be reluctant in paying for GM's, coaches, scouting departments etc.
Ralph’s biggest mistake was empowering the wrong individuals to make football decisions within the franchise.- Hiring Marv Levy as GM - Marv was a great coach but way too old to be an effective GM. As a result Marv, Dick Jauron, and Tom Modrak ran all drafts and personnel decisions. The results were disastrous
- Empowering Russ Brandon as acting GM and not hiring a real GM - again a terrible decision that hurt the franchise for years to come
- Naming Buddy Nix as GM - again Ralph was to scared to hire someone outside the organization, so he turned to Buddy who previously worked for the Bills. His tenure as GM was largely unsuccessful and terrible.
- Promoting Doug Whaley as GM. Yet another mistake
So while I am looking forward to the Ralph documentary, I’m hoping it’s a balanced look at his life. Like I said, I'm grateful for his dedication to keeping the team in Buffalo, but I think his poor decisions in the past have ramifications that we still feel today. Just my 2 cents
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7 hours ago, blacklabel said:
Yeah, he has a good eye for talent. He's a good scout. That doesn't mean he's a good GM. He didn't work his way up the front office ladder in Pittsburgh because he was clueless. Steelers are one of the most well-run organizations in all of sports. That's why I was excited when they hired Whaley. I figured he'd bring to Buffalo what he learned in Pittsburgh and I'm sure he tried it just never worked.
He absolutely nailed the Hughes trade because the player they gave up was Kelvin Sheppard who has since bounced around to a bunch of different teams, mostly in back-up/special teams roles. In fact I think the Bills see him this Sunday as he's on the Colts now.
Alonso for McCoy, yeah, no brainer.
He didn't draft Dareus, Nix did, and it was the right pick at that time. Nobody complained when Dareus received his extension because he had just come off excellent seasons in 2013 and 2014. He was starting to turn the corner and show that he could be a truly dominant DT. Now had they not extended him, this fan base would have been livid. "There goes another one of our best players! Walks away and we get nothing!" So with that logic, he really can't win either way, can he? Sign him and it's a mistake. Don't sign him, also a mistake. For years fans whined endlessly about how this team consistently would not re-sign key players. Once they started doing that, everyone starts going, "No no, not that way, not that guy!" Can't win.
Dareus fizzled out here because he was stuck in a scheme for two years that didn't suit him. He's in Jacksonville now, playing well as part of one of the top defenses in the league.
The Watkins trade in hindsight doesn't look great, but before that, fans were constantly upset that no Bills GM would make any moves during draft day. Nix wouldn't budge on his picks. The super-duo of Marv and Russ were clueless so they didn't bounce around in the draft. There weren't any player for player or player for picks trades. People be like, "They need to make moves if they wanna win! They need to take risks and be bold!" So Whaley comes in and he's almost a polar opposite of Nix and Marv/Russ. He swings trades, he keeps the phone lines open, he makes bold moves. He does what fans had been calling for a Bills front office to do for years. What's he get for it? Crapped on.
Whaley did find some street FAs that happened to play really well, Gillislee for instance. And Justin Hunter last season was a nice addition.
So let's not act as though the man came in and was a trainwreck from the start. He was able to retain guys like Dareus, Hughes and Glenn at a time when it seemed those players were gonna be cornerstones for the franchise (think around 2014). Had those guys left, fans would've wanted him fired for not signing them. He signs them, they still want him fired.
And look around the league right now, there are a number of former Bills, drafted or signed by Whaley who are doing pretty well with their new teams. Woods has been balling in LA. Watkins is finally coming around. Robey-Coleman is also out there and is their starting nickel CB. Chris Hogan has an important role in NE. Like I said, a good eye for talent but was never very good at team chemistry and finding the right types of players for the locker room. Is what it is.
What exactly can any of these executives or coaches do to truly appease this fan base? Cause absolutely NOTHING is ever good enough. I swear, this team is gonna win the Super Bowl one day and during the parade there's gonna be a truckload of fans screaming about how McD (or whoever is coach by then) mismanaged his time outs or how he should've challenged that one play. "Yeah, they won the Super Bowl, but NOT IN THE WAY I WANTED!"
And what are your contingency plans for when you start screaming for coaches and executives to be fired? "Hire this guy here, I know he's good, I read an article and heard a guy talk about him on NFL Network, he is the best ever!"
We all get it. 17 years of suck, well, sucks. We're impatient. But for cripes sake, if anyone thinks constantly hitting the reset button every other season is going to fix this team, you're wrong. Doing that will only keep them in the cycle of suck for even longer.
I hate to burst your bubble, but Doug Whaley ran very very lousy draft. He ran three drafts which netted ZERO Pro Bowl players. You can't do that in the NFL - that's how you get fired and that is the primary reason why Doug was fired. Good riddance.
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Oh yeah it was 1992, opening day fresh off of the Super Bowl 26 appearance. The Bills took on the LA Rams and it was a bloodbath. An absolutely gorgeous day in a packed house and a great Bills win
DC Frazier Announces Matt Milano as Starting WLB
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Good move "Razor" Ramon Humber is really a special teams guy. Would not start on most teams. I give him credit for playing well in a few games this year.