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    Laporta versus Kincaid?

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    1 hour ago, Buffalo03 said:

    I'll settle this real quickly. Take LaPorta out of the Lions offense and put him in the Bills offense and take Kincaid and put him in the Lions offense, production is flipped. There, now go back to not making stupid posts. It's not Kincaid, it's how they are used

    Why are you so angry? He was just asking a question. Jeesh. 

    Debunking false narrative that von miller was offside on 4th down play

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    From Peter King

     

    https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/fmia/news/nfl-cowboys-dak-prescott-eagles-chiefs-ravens-fmia-week-14-peter-king 

     

     

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    Andy Reid was steaming because he said officials always give teams warnings before violations like this. The replay on CBS showed Toney clearly over the line of scrimmage. One former official told me Sunday night it wouldn’t be uncommon early in a game for coaches and players to be warned on a play like this, but he said it wouldn’t happen later in the game, particularly on a clear violation such as this. The ref, Carl Cheffers, told a pool reporter: “Certainly, no warning is required, especially if they’re lined up so far offside where they’re actually blocking our view of the ball. We would give them some sort of warning if it was anywhere close, but this particular one is beyond a warning.” The pool reporter asked if it was an egregious violation. “Correct,” Cheffers said.

     

    Debunking false narrative that von miller was offside on 4th down play

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    5 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

     

    It was almost never called before this year, which is what people were mad about most likely...been called 11 times(12 with Toney's) this year versus twice last year and once the year before...it's a point of emphasis for the NFL this year, not sure why teams are surprised in Week 14.


    Yes that’s why it was such a controversial call in the game I’m thinking of. I remember specifically thinking “why wouldn’t the official warn the Bills player before the snap?” 

     

     

     

    Debunking false narrative that von miller was offside on 4th down play

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    13 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

     

    Carl Cheffers in the pool reporter interview after the game:

     

    Question: "Andy Reid just told us that it’s his experience that it is customary for an official to tell the head coach and even sometimes tell the receiver that they need to back up or that they’re lined up Offside. Did that happen in this case? And does that process usually work?"

     

    Cheffers: "Yes, ultimately, if they look for alignment advice, certainly we are going to give it to them. But ultimately, they are responsible for wherever they line up. And, certainly, no warning is required, especially if they are lined up so far Offside where they’re actually blocking our view of the ball. So, we would give them some sort of warning if it was anywhere close, but this particular one is beyond a warning.”


    I’m trying to remember and it’s not going well but the Bills lost a game few years ago when the exact same penalty was called on a game winning TD being reversed due to a player misalignment and the ref never never notifying the Bills player as well. 
     

    there was the same consternation from Bills fans but ultimately it was the right call.  
     

    I wish I could remember that game. 

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