Demongyz
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
It’s starting. Trump toady Kari Lake is already talking about stolen elections and challenges, and nobody has even called the race yet.
so?
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Just now, ChiGoose said:
The reason they say that it is it easier to spread misinformation that abortions 8 months in are elective than it is to explain the nuances of why someone would have to have an abortion at that stage.
So instead of spending several minutes explaining the nuances of pregnancy healthcare, liberal politicians find it easier to phrase it as keeping the government out of healthcare decisions.
I get that and I understand. However, I find that our culture now understands that killing babies is just fine. I hate that. I've been through it in my generation and the next and all I can say is I'm so happy to provide for these sweet little girls. one and then the next.
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Just now, SCBills said:
As a conservative, I really want to like our Libertarian cousins, but y’all have to go to stop killing Republicans in key races.
The libertarian in the Georgia Senate race has 2%… awesome, hope those voters are happy with themselves.
I voted a straight GOP ticket. I know what the stakes are.
Just now, ChiGoose said:Just want to point out that this is a fallacy. You'll have a hard time finding people who are in favor of allowing a healthy pregnancy to be aborted at term.
The nuance and complexity comes around how abortion laws interact with other aspects of healthcare such as miscarriages and fatal fetal diagnosis.
A bit more simple, ask yourself: how many people are going to go through all of the pains and difficulties of pregnancy for 8.5 months and then suddenly decide that they don't wan the baby?
I agree 100%. What are the politicians saying? Left=It's between a woman and her Dr. right: not so simple.
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4 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Other takeaways from tonight:
-people like legal abortion. We saw it in Kansas in the summer, we see it tonite in several states.
-people dont like taxes. My state (CO) is about to lower our flat state income tax rate again.
-people like legal weedThe libertarian moment may come after all.
They like abortion to a point. Libs like it until the point of birth, Most folks are about 15 weeks. Taxes are bad, I hate taxes. I live in Nevada for heavens sake. We got legal weed, not so great when you get it. Libertarian here, just understand, it's not awesome for the great scheme of things... I got through many English classes writing reports on legalization, and not so into it anymore.
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1 minute ago, KDIGGZ said:
Only going by the people I converse with, which is a small sample set, but it seems for the R's a lot of them are embarrassed by Trump but still vote for the policies. Of I's, they would rather not vote at all than vote for Trump but they are certainly not for Biden either. Of the D's, they have said they are sick of the direction of the party but if Trump runs they will vote against him every time so please give them another option and they might consider switching their vote. If you find an actual fan of Biden please let me know as I've personally never met one.
Polling apparently shows Trump has higher numbers than Desantis but in my circle I know that Desantis would definitely have their votes. More people vote against Trump than for Biden imo. Just too divisive for a lot of people. If you look at tonight's results (big Desantis win and flipped blue counties, elsewhere people voting against Trump backed candidates) I think it reflects the exact situation I have seen in my own personal interactions.
I am yet to meet someone in person who would vote for Trump over Desantis, but I don't know that many people. I get that there are many folks who think Trump is some messiah but that will change, and it must. I stay a registered Republican with the hope that I can vote against him again in the primary, but honestly, I'll only do it if Desantis runs against him. Otherwise I'll have to vote for him and hate myself for it.
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2 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
You take things too seriously man. I was joking. Sorry you took it the wrong way.
I lived in the Bay Area for nearly 10 years. I hated there elitism. Despised it. Where I live now may have a population of nearly 100k but the demographics are VERY blue collar and very Hispanic and I love that. I grew up in a village in NY with a whopping population of 500. I love, cherish and respect the farmers I grew up with and live near now.
I love him! But he’s too divisive and we have GOT to move on from that.I think we understand each other, well, I understand you. I grew up in Utah in a county of about 8000 people, a town of about 2000 which was one of the biggest towns in a very large county with no population. We mine coal, we make power, that's what we do. The biggest town I lived in before I was 30 was Susanville aka prison town usa. I've moved up to the biggest little city and it's too damned big.
Remember always that there is a lot of responsibility in the small towns, and they do much more than anyone will ever understand.
Thanks, Chef, for being you.
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Just now, SCBills said:
People still love him. I know quite a few that are still defending him and making excuses for him tonight.
It’s beyond frustrating.
I’ll vote for Trump if he’s the nominee, but tonight finally got me to the point where I am truly starting to dislike him.
Trump is a fool. He absolutely needs to step aside. He did some great things, but the guy is beyond the pale. Desantis is the future and that is all there is.
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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:
How did I disparage them? Because I’ve never heard of Lassen County?Essentially you stated you don't need to care about a county that has half the population of your small town. It's like SF or LA not caring about the entirety of the state of CA. It was a bit elitist and overstated. I'm sure you didn't mean it that way, but it really felt that way. May as well get rid of the electoral college and so on.
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Just now, Chef Jim said:
Yeah, you got me pegged alright. Holy ***** dude. You obviously have no clue who I am, what my background is and what my feelings are about people who live in rural areas. The fact you call me a Democrat is laughable. I make decisions on how you live? No dude. As a dyed in the wool conservative how you live is 100% up to you.Good then don't disparage the good people of Lassen County and we are good.
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1 minute ago, ChiGoose said:
Here's what I'm looking at as someone admittedly hoping for a good night for the Dems. I am still going through the data so it may change quickly.
It's going to get a lot better for Dems before the night is through for sure, but you won't win the house, and may not win the senate, but that is debatable.
I think maybe we should learn to respect each other and go root for federalism as much as we can.
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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
BTW it was the Sagebrush RebellionOr for ***** sake.
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4 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
I’d give you a retort but I have no idea what your trying to say in your first sentence. You guys speak a different language up there. 🙄Yeah, that wan't too clear. It turns out when you live in a rural area, people like YOU like to make decisions on how they can live without understanding their way of life. More importantly people unlike you exert more power upon them. You believe that they are trash and feel superior to them. You are a Democrat without even knowing it. Get out of their lives, let them live. That is what I'm saying.
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Just now, Chef Jim said:
Huh. Looks like the angry folks live up in Lassen County. Or is that your Libertarian side showing?Perhaps people who hate the government that knows nothing of their lives yet wants to tell them how to live would like to break away. Check out the sagebrush war.
I agree with you most of the time, and I think our politics are very close to one another, but you suffer from ego.
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
He’s pissed that O’Dea ran away from him. So he’ll blame O’Dea’s loss on not sucking up to Trump. Truth is Trump ain’t popular here. Even Trump Country (western CO) finds Boebert struggling to hang on.
Agreed, Trump is such a piece of trash that he doesn't care about anything, not America, not policies, just Trump. The dude is a Democrat in nature.
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Just now, Chef Jim said:
Learn my state. Who cares about a podunk county with 1/3 the population of the smallish city I live in. LOLHouse of Rep.
They elect Republicans, what do you do? B word?
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Just now, SCBills said:
Anyone still riding with Trump after tonight is a Democrats best friend.
Two of his party adversaries beat the **** out of their opponents in DeSantis & Kemp. Meanwhile, his dumpster fire candidates are likely heading to a runoff in GA, getting smoked by a vulnerable Dem in NH and currently running at a 90% chance to lose to a dude who can’t even hold a conversation in PA.
Oh, and his first statement of the night is attacking a …. Republican, Joe O’Dea
Trump is trash.
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Just now, Chef Jim said:
A libertarian who understand what it takes? Ha! Talk about a dead party.
Lassen County? Never heard of it.
Well then. Learn your state.
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3 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:
I’ve lived in California for 40 years. Arnold was a huge RHINO. That was an embarrassment. Funny you helped him get elected before you moved here.Honestly, this pisses me off. I lived in Lassen County. What republican stronghold are you holding down? Hell, I'm a libertarian and understand what it takes. What are you doing?
Just now, Chef Jim said:
He was governor 12 years ago. Your math doesn’t work.I lived there FOR 10 years. Not the last 10 years. Wake up.
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1 minute ago, Chef Jim said:
I’ve lived in California for 40 years. Arnold was a huge RHINO. That was an embarrassment. Funny you helped him get elected before you moved here.Funny I helped him get elected while there. yeah, huge rhino no *****. I guess I should have voted for someone who couldn't be elected in CA at all.
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1 minute ago, Backintheday544 said:
Huh? Ronald Reagan, George Deukmejam, Pete Wilson and The Terminator say hi.I lived in CA for 10 years, I helped Arnold get elected. It's not that simple.
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Just now, Backintheday544 said:
Newsom has his election called in under a min and over an hour faster than DeSantis. We now know the most popular governor.
Give me a break.
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4 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said:
Those are all purple. If you want a red wave, you need to make in ways in some blue places as well and that’s not happening tonight.I want to end the madness from all Blue. This will be done.
A red wave/tsunami = failure anyway. Acting like losing by only so much is a win is funny.
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1 minute ago, Casey D said:
NH PA WI. and lots of house races like VA-7
So Blue states?
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GDT Thread! It’s here - ELECTION “SEASON” 2022 will conclude in 2023
in Politics, Polls, and Pundits
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I agree.