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    Coleman Route Speeds

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    5 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    It's not. If you read any of my posts it's based on game film of him never separating from db's. They are on him like discount coats from Macy's 

    So what, he will out catch the coat and if not be getting PI penalties. We wont care about separation when he is catching the ball. Diggs didn't constantly seperate. And the 1/2 of the year he would likely drop it if he had.

    Draft Analysis - We're All Debi from Depew

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    12 hours ago, Watkins101 said:

    I keep seeing people comparing fans’ reactions to the Coleman pick to the wrong Josh outcry when Allen was drafted. This seems utterly ridiculous to me, as their situations are pretty far apart. Josh Allen was as boom-or-bust of a prospect as they come. He was most likely to either be a star or a complete waste of a pick, and there was unlikely to be any Inbetween. Whereas Coleman, his ceiling according to most is a 2, and his floor is a depth receiver, a red zone threat with good hands, but not enough impact in the middle of the field to be a starter. Really am not seeing the comparison at all.

    Situation not the same, but the reaction from fans were. They Wanted AD or Worthy or BTJ...etc so Coleman is going to bust because of it. I heard groans more than excitement, just like when we selected the right Josh. 

     

    It's going to take a few years to find out if Coleman is good enough. But they took a football player, rather than the hyped fast guy ever. Those track stars are bad football players. We learned that lesson with Goodwin. All the other guys had their flaws. And Coleman has game speed, I don't care what his 40 time was. 

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    Bills Updated Draft Pick Spots

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    40 minutes ago, Lofton80 said:

    I wonder if Arizona wants to come up to 32 for switching our 4th for one of their thirds.  We would only go back a few spots from 32 in the second. 

    Well since the next pic is ours at 33, that is impossible. But sure I'd go back form 33 a couple slots for another 3rd rounder.

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    The Draft is a Total Crapshoot (Per Science)

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    5 minutes ago, eball said:

     

    Are there?  I think if you actually do the research you'll find that the teams you think are always right are in fact wrong just as much as everyone else.

     

    No kidding. Look at the Chiefs the past couple drafts at WR. Sky looking like a bust. Rice started showing talent, but appears to be missing a few brain cells. That's why I hope we at least double dip at WR this draft. Juts to hedge the bet. I mean maybe we get 2 studs, what a tragedy that would be! 

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    OJ Simpson dead at 76

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    3 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

    I have his autograph...does the value of that go up or down after his death?

    If it has a fingerprint on the bloody knife, that would be worth a fortune!

    29 minutes ago, CoudyBills said:

    Such cutting remarks

    I see what you did there!

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    Best Buffalo Bills tweets on X

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    2 minutes ago, Buffalo716 said:

    And Jordan Poyers brother bashed the bills organization on the way out

     

    And said that they don't treat the players as good as they say they do and it's all an act

     

    So now do we piss on Jordan poyer? Or is maybe his brother salty too

    At least ask Jordan if he's good with that. It's all about consent these days!

    The Bills need worse recievers

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    2 hours ago, BillsVet said:

     

    The run-pass ratio from Dorsey to Brady was much different because Buffalo just started running the ball more under Brady.  This worked in the regular season, but only to a point.  Didn't stop Brady from relying too much on Josh gaining yards on the ground like his predecessors resorted to by the end of the season and into the playoffs.  

     

    If the idea is to take the ball out of Josh's hands more running it with the backs and/or have him run, this offense is limited.  It's limited when you run out receivers who are short to intermediate types, can't track it downfield, and historically 10-12 ypc options.  Defenses cheat.  And in the current NFL, expecting to maintain 10+ play drives consistently is not a recipe for success.    

     

    The difference in WR talent shows up more in the playoffs when scoring gets harder because you can't be that personnel-limited even with Josh.  

    There is a difference in limiting Josh and having him play less dangerously. In the long run the less shots Josh takes running the ball, the better. Dorsey didn't know how to call a running game. Which is why it wasn't working under him. 

     

    We don't know what Brady's O will look like yet. But My guess is you see a lot more passing than he showed at the end of last year. And we will have better skilled players at the WR position to pull it off. 

    The Bills need worse recievers

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    6 minutes ago, BillsVet said:

    Buffalo hasn't traded a primary starter this near the draft since Jason Peters went to Philadelphia in 2009.  It wasn't surprising they didn't subsequently adjust their board given the crew in charge back then.  

     

    This time, Beane alluded to shopping Diggs for a while, which at the least was a decision to come out of their post-season review in late January/early February.  And if that's the case, not a stretch to believe their draft board was built knowing that Diggs was going to be moved.  Especially since they saw a draft class with strong WR talent.  

     

    It would say a lot about this regime if they decided that their primary receiving options for Josh next season were Samuels, Shakir, Kincaid, Knox and a RD2-3 rookie.  Because as much as Diggs was declining, it wouldn't be that many degrees of separation from what Buffalo did at OT after trading Peters: relying on rookies/2nd year players and lesser talented options to make up for that deal.  

     

    Their vision for this team has crystalized in the last couple seasons. And now, most people are seeing that what McD wants to do on offense is to limit Josh and focus on a by-committee offensive approach with decent skilled talent, but not elite.  That's not going to work in the AFC.    

    He doesn't want to limit Josh, he will be hands off the O, he wants smarter decisions and longer drives. Josh will always take his shots. McD is fine with that. The problem is we didnt have the talent at WR to get sepration. Shakir is a very good (soon to be great) WR. He and Kincaid were are only real targets in the 2nd Half. With younger more talent at WR this year; the O will be more explosive. Diggs stopped being effective because Davis couldn't draw away coverage. 

    Diggs traded to Texans for picks

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    1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

     

    I would do that in a heartbeat but wouldn't think this would be enough.  Both Bills #1 and #2 picks will be later in the round picks.

    The Vikings might be gold but still, a second so 33 at the earliest.  The Giants could use one of these elite WR's as well.

    That is a lot of capital for a receiver. Last time we moved up for a receiver it did not work out that well. There are many talented receivers in this draft. My choices would be Stay put at 38 BPA, move up a little for the right WR, or move down and grab more pics. 

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