Bills Pimpin'
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Easy.. they can go 4-12 with or without him
Exactly. Some folks think having Watkins instead of Matthews is worth 6 wins. It's absurd IMO.
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I'm on the road, didn't see the Eagles game (nor the Vikings game), and I've barely read or seen anything about the Bills.
Here's what I think from afar:
1. Seems like the same old preseason we always get out of the Bills, and that's a bad sign, because the regular season always looks a lot like the preseason. The offense needs to be crisp, sharp and effective, and it seems they've been anything but that. No long drives, no touchdowns. Of course, Matthews isn't playing an Boldin is brand new to the team, but still, the Bills need more offense than they showed.
2. Most discouraging is that McDermott is supposed to be all about fundamentals, details and discipline, but his team is piling up penalties as though Rex were still the coach. I said all off season that we won't know what we've got until they start firing live ammo, and it's all up to McDermott. Well, at least so far, McDermott doesn't seem to be delivering on what the Bills needed most.
3. Taylor seems to be doing his best to demonstrate that the Bills overspent when they redid his contract. Both INTs Tursday were on him.
4. Boldin looked like an old man on the INT to Darby.
See you all in another week.
Hope your vacation is going well. I agree with your assessment that things aren't looking great for 2017. Seems to me the new regime have been evaluating the players throughout training camp and, in my opinion, have come to realize that there simply isn't enough talent on this team to compete at a playoff level. Especially at the QB position. It wouldn't surprise me if they make a decision to see what Peterman can do with the ones sooner rather than later. They will have to know what they got in him before next year's draft. Therefore they are leaning towards building towards the future by gaining draft picks. Hence the Sammy and Darby trades. Furthermore, there has been some signs that the young players in the WR core, specifically Shorts and Reilly that deserve time with the twos. All of this makes it look more like "sacrifice now, win later" instead of "win now, win later". Hopefully they will still be fun to watch, cause I will watch every snap.
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Coach has been here for years and probably has forgotten more than you know.
Number of years on an internet forum is a baseline of intelligence? How about looking at the content of the messages and base your opinion on that.
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What? He was the FOURTH receiver in Philly.
Thank you for writing such an ignorant post that I can make my final analysis that you are nothing but a troll with an agenda. Even the most ignorant of all football fans know this post is absolutely false. It's really become a joke.
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If the decision to move away from Taylor at the end of this year has been made, which I can not imagine is not the case, than the decision who to start will not be based on wins and losses. It will be based on this regimes philosophy on how to evaluate and improve the young offensive talent on this team both at the QB position and other positions.
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Everyone can concede that the chance of Tyrod being here next year is extremely unlikely. The most dangerous part of Tyrod's game is his mediocrity. My biggest fear is that his final parting gift will be a .500 record. Not only will this lead to a lower first round draft pick, but it will sacrifice an additional first rounder and second rounder at least if we intend to move up to get a franchise quarterback. So we sacrifice half of our haul of picks for the sake of being "competitive" for the 17th year? I'd rather use one 1st rounder on a qb and use the additional 1st and 2nds and 3rds to build a solid foundation of young talent.
I agree with this but from the looks of the defense so far, I think this team can win 7-8 games with any QB on the roster.
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TT is only an adequate QB if he rushes for 75 yards and doesn't turn the ball over. If those 2 things happen a team can realistically win 10 games with him running the offense. But Peterman, in my opinion, made 2 or 3 throws last night that I have never seen TT throw and I simply do not think he is capable of at his talent level. It was very apparent to me and probably most after watching Peterman, with many of the same players at his disposal that TT had and within the same 30 minutes or so that he was the better NFL quarterback last night. TT will not be on this team after this year. How the coaches handle it this year will be very interesting for sure.
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They are not building an offense that fits his strengths. So trade him. But before you do that,let Peterman start against the ones, but without Glenn or Matthews.
It was my understanding Rico wanted him because he did fit the system. Maybe I am mistaken. Or maybe he isn't a fit for any system.
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Drafting Watkins wasn't building through the draft?
And if they don't spend the money on Watkins (or Taylor, who we'll cut when we draft our Azor Ahai QB next draft), who are they going to spend it on? Free Agents? Is that option C?
Dumping elite talent for no good reason isn't the way to build a winner in the NFL.
They are going to spend it on the franchise QB they are going to get using the draft picks they traded for.
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I'm suggesting their strategy is wrong.
If Sammy had a big year, why wouldn't you pay him and keep a star WR around?
Like I said, it's a I'm smarter then everyone kind of move.
It's not an I'm smarter than everyone kind of move at all. It's an "I'm not ever going to pay a wide receiver 15 million dollars if he plays good in a contract year after 4 years of a sub-par injury filled career." It's a"We are getting a wide receiver drafted in the same year with better stats and a 2nd round pick to replace this fragile dude" kind of move.It's an "I'm getting a versatile corner who fits my scheme to replace the bum who isn't smart enough to understand my system and got torched time and again last year and a third round pick" kind of move. The fact of the matter is, the players the Bills received have had better careers in the NFL than the ones they gave up and they got second and third round picks. Those are facts as of tonight. Now you may think you are Nostradamus and that the next 10 years are going to be better than the last 4 for Sammy Watkins and that's OK, but evidently McEgo isn't willing to take that chance and no one should kill him for that. Not when he gets someone that's been better on the same day.
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Take a look at this and take a deep breath folks.
https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2017/8/11/16135964/sammy-watkins-buffalo-bills-los-angeles-rams-trade
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If anyone on this board thinks the production difference between J Matthews and S Watkins is going to be the difference between making the playoffs and not then I think they are crazy. The difference between making the playoffs and not is going to be the picks we got to get our franchise QB and Tyrod Taylor.
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I actually thought Sammy was going to get hurt last night. In fact I think Sammy is going to get hurt every single play so I'm glad he got traded. Less stress for me watching the games.
I feel the same way about TT too. It's a terrible way to watch a football game.
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Oh, Stop it, 62... -Did we manage to win the off-season as well?... Give it 'tll at least, October... I may join you in singing their praises if we're 5-0...
You MAY join in singing praises if we are 5-0? What would the Bills have to be for you to DEFINITELY sing praises? 6-0 after 5 games? FFS.
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I will be more clear. Everyone within the organization as well as Tyrod as well as Tyrods agent knew the Bills were going to cut the quarterback before March 1 and he was going to play elsewhere or he was going to restructure. You don't have to be a genius to know not a single team would sign up for 92 million or whatever the contract was after Taylor's season last year. Taylor did not take a pay cut because the offer he had was never on the table. What Taylor got was a fair market value contract at the place he wanted to play.
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Agreed that what the Bills did was smart and hedged their bets. Yeah, they shortened his deal. But they also made it infinitely easier for them to cut him after one year.
With the old deal (assuming they'd taken the option, of course) if they'd cut him after one year, they'd have had to pay a penalty of around $14 - $15 mill in dead money. And the alternative - keeping him on the roster through March 2018 - would have meant guaranteeing him about $24 mill more ($40 mill total guaranteed from the beginning of the contract if he was only on the roster in March 2018 ... minus his 2017 impact).
If they'd kept the old deal and picked up the option, to keep him or let him go would have cost the Bills a ton more than the new deal will. Either way the Bills save a ton and Tyrod makes a lot less.
In the new deal, Tyrod makes $14 mill less money if he's here for one year and $10 mill less money if he's here for two. And his guarantee, a number players fight like rabid dogs to increase, will also be a lot less.
I don't believe there is any argument that The Bills were not going to pick up Taylor at 30 million. I'm not sure how well Taylor would have had to play to get that 30 million but I assume it would have had To be Bradyesque. That is why the initial contract was not so bad as it was told in the media. The Bills were in control of the situation and Taylor was paid fair market value. This deal is no different other than the fact that Taylor may be slightly over paid this year, and was slightly underpaid last year. Could Taylor have gotten 45 million over 4 years with 25 guaranteed? Probably. But is that better than 30 million over 2 years with 15.5 mllioon guarenteed? In a situation that he knows and likes? It's not so clear. Its a good fair deal for both.
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Those are salary cap numbers. What they are actually getting paid is different.
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Tyrod Taylor is making 15.5 million dollars this year. There are 8 quarterbacks in the league who will be paid more. You all don't think it was a good deal for Taylor. Plus he gets another 15.5 million next year if he plays good? Hmmmm. That seems very fair for both sides maybe a little better for Tyrod if you ask me.
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Thank you for putting this out there OP, and I appreciate another person / professional is does their best to comb through stats and digest them to some degree for us casual readers or observers. However, while the stats are basic math regarding percentages - and I trust the man to have a calculator to do the percentage for him and that he's not "lying" - I disagree with the other statement or conclusion of this information that leads to believing Tyrod is a "good" QB.
To me, finding a good QB is much like what the Supreme Court referred to pornography, "I can't define it, but I know it when I see it"....a really good to great QB is similar. I don't necessarily that works counter toward a poor QB, for that I think only time and experience truly show, unless they were really bad in college, which makes me think they didn't even get a look to come to the NFL. Bottom line for me: Tyrod doesn't pass the eye test. I don't watch the All-22 and from what people say, Tyrod does a fine job, but I watch the games and I watch many, many other NFL and college games, and Tyrod routinely throws the ball high, low, wide or behind a receiver. He misses open receivers in the middle of the field and he gets antsy feet in the pocket. To me, he is not Russ Wilson 2.0, he is just an incredible athlete with a penchant for the deep ball.
IMHO, a true NFL QB stands in the pocket, takes the hits and delivers, commands the Offense with precision and accuracy, and has the ability to take what the Defense gives him bit by bit and chew up the yardage as well as making good audible calls at the line, not just making plays after the snap with his running or elusive ability, which to Tyrod's credit he does as well as anyone in the league. Tyrod was probably the best option for this year, but he is NOT a good NFL QB, he's just better than what we've had for so very long. Sometimes, desperation makes it hard to tell the difference.
You are speaking of an NFL QB from 20 years ago. QB's don't "stand in the pocket and take hits" in 2017. They would get killed.
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I looked at the number of players we drafted from 2013-2016, how many remained with the team, and how many are still in NFL. The latter is very important because that is an indicator of your "ability" to spot talent in the drafts. I then compared your performance to that of our esteemed rivals, New England Patriots. And the results are interesting:
In those 4 years we drafted 28 players to Pats' 36. Of the 28, 15 still remain with the team as of today. That's 54%. Looking at the pats, of the 36, 18 players are still on their roster as of today. So we have exceeded Pats' team retention by 4%. Nice.
Now let's look at over-all talent evaluation. How many of our players are still on NFL rosters, vs. those who are no longer NFL players. Of the 28 players we drafted, 24 are still in the league, or 86%. Of the 36 players the esteemed Pats drafted, only 27 remain in the NFL. That's 75%. Here, Bills and Whaley have outperformed World Champions by 11% points.
Doug, it is clear now. it's not your fault this team hasn't won. You can only bring them in. You aren't the one coaching them.
Not only is this the worst indication of how a GM has performed that I have ever seen, it doesn't take into account all of the managerial duties a GM has to perform on a day to day basis. The GM is a high level position and Doug Whaley does not act or perform as a high level employee. I would agree he is high level scout and will perform those duties well in another organization. IMO he will not be a GM.
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Whaley was the best thing that happened to this team in 15 years. Ralph sucked. Pegula sucks. Whaley did one hell of a job with one owner who was senile and another who is inept. I wish the best for him and I hope he goes somewhere else and builds ANOTHER top 5 defense.
Whaley was a power monger who didn't get along with one of the three head coaches he worked with. He had 4 years and couldn't help get the team to the playoffs. Furthermore, the Bils had the best draft in a very long time and got an additional first rounder in 2018. I think enough has been reported to believe the decisions of this draft were made by McDermott. Whaley would have effed it up for sure. There is no way they could let that mumble mouth hang around the building when McDermott was gong to make all the decisions.
I Am not going to deny the firing was a little wonky and Pegula is still a novice at this, but they tried to be kind and give the dude some kudos as they let him go and it sent mixed signals. But I do agree with you he seems like a nice guy and I hope he gets on somewhere else.
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I don't think it's all that complicated. Pegulas liked McDermott. Whaley liked Lynn. Pegulas hire McDermott anyway. Whaley starts to butt heads with McDermott like he probably did with Rex and Marrone. Pegulas see how polished and smart McDermott seems (we don't know yet for sure) and compares it to Whaleys fumbling, bumbling demeanor and made a decision. Bottom line, Whaley wasn't professional enough or smart enough for the job and he got fired.
So Boldin retired?
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With their paycheck every Friday. It's very interesting you didn't specifically name Tyrod in that sentence too....