dgrochester55
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1) Shakir
2) Samuel
3) Coleman
Likely
4) MVS
5) Hollins
Battling for last spot
6) Claypool/Hamler
Outside looking in
Shorter, Shavers, Isabella, UFDA WR's
MVS and Hollins aren't flashy but they are reliable veterans. For them to be cut, you would need a combination of them performing poorly and one or two unproven receivers having a breakthrough
The last spot IMO is Claypool's to lose. Hamler could surprise if he stays healthy. Isabella would likely be practice squad again.
While it is possible that Shorter, Shavers or the UDFA WR's might break through, they are unproven and would most likely end up on the practice squad unless they play well above the expected level and become the next Shakir. They only way that I see them making the team otherwise are injuries or Claypool and Hamler both flopping.
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26 minutes ago, Cubanmist 1 said:
Adams or Metcalf for Von
If anyone in the Bills management can convince the Raiders or Seahawks to make that trade, they have earned themselves an automatic entry in the Bills Wall of fame.
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1 minute ago, TBBills Fan said:
Whitner. Great at tackling guys after they make a big catch.
No one mastered the "Backle" better than Whitner. I lost count of how many times I would watch a running back or WR drag him five yards, get a first down and then see Whitner jump up and celebrate like he stuffed him for a loss.
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Player: Nathan Peterman. There were plenty of bad QB's in the drought era, but Peterman was the only time where I saw zero hope of winning. When Buffalo held the Bears to under 200 total yards on Offense but lost 41-9, that summed up what it was like under Peterman better than anything else.
Coach: Rex Ryan: At least with Jauron and Gailey, you knew that they were playing with limited talent and young players. Ryan took our defense from a unit that almost got us in the playoffs with Kyle Orton at QB to a bottom 5 unit in just two years. Watching The undisciplined play and constant penalties with a team that had borderline playoff talent week in and week out was much worse to me than watching a low talent team that played hard during other drought years..
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40 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said:
1. He wasn't an ideal teammate... you seriously need to read some articles from that period before you write revisionist history.
2. Did the Bills have any of those as active players from 1987 to 2024?
3. The question wasn't about trends, FYI.
4. It was the sum total (see "arrogant and selfish coach", the part you glossed over as a part of your agenda), and once again you seem to completely ignore events over that time to harp on the very end as if it never happened.
1) I ran a search to make sure that I didn't miss anything, nothing from Beasley besides his stances on the vaccine and failing COVID protocols shows up. Granted, many others with his stances were less outspoken and did not make it a distraction, but calling him the all time worst teammate or frustrating Bill to watch is excessive.
2) Yes, plenty of examples available, but that is not what you are interested in is it?
3) Never said it was. Since you clearly missed the point, I see no sense in trying to explain it.
4) You are projecting your intent on me when you say agenda. The question was about who frustrated you on game days. The way that you answered the Marrone part of the question made it clear that you were not paying attention to the question and only had one purpose and reason for answering.
I never once gave my opinion on the topic, only pointed out that your answer was ridiculous. There are plenty of other places to talk politics. Take it elsewhere.
Please do not reply. We both have said what we needed. I am done talking.
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On 5/27/2024 at 8:09 AM, EasternOHBillsFan said:
Player is too easy... Cole Beasley. I simply cannot stand to have a whole bunch of BS bleed over into my football, worse than the Taylor Swift nonsense. Hard to have a unified locker room on gamedays when someone is out creating so many distractions. I love it for the Jets, hate it for the Bills.
Coach is Doug Marrone... if you want to just quit on a team that quickly, just go ahead and retire and find another profession. There is no room in the NFL for a quitter unless you're a desperate team trying to find a way out of hell. Never seen a more arrogant and selfish coach for the Bills in my life!
1) Everyone loved Beasley for the first three years that he was here, the problems with him only came after COVID. He said something against the vaccines and failed the NFL COVID protocols. That is it. He was an ideal teammate otherwise. Not a constant distraction comparable to the level of Kelce/Swift.
2) The NFL has murderers, rapists, wife beaters, and addicts. There are also people who underachieve, quit on their team and are bad teammates. Not getting the vaccine is a greater moral outrage than any of these?
3) Toxic conformity stopped being trendy more than two years ago.
4) Marrone made you the most mad during the 2013 and 2014 season games, because he unexpectedly resigned from the team after the 2014 season?
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I personally see Burks as being in the same tier as the Claypool, Hamler, Hollins, Isabella group battling for the last spots on the Roster. I would not see a need to add him and definitely see no benefit to spending a draft pick on a trade for him.
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Rex Ryan would have him averaging 50 points a game while the defense gave up 60
Chan Gailey would somehow get a pro bowl season out of him with a WR unit of Hollins, Isabella and Claypool but also have atrocious defenses.
Dick Jauron would have Allen handing it off on nearly every snap which the exception of a few check downs to Gilliam and Morris.
Wade Phillips would have them playing like contenders as Allen had an MVP caliber season until he decided to start Trubisky in Week 18 during mop up and be so impressed that he started him in the playoffs
4 hours ago, LeGOATski said:Doug Marrone with Jim Schwartz at DC would've had a great team and broken the drought.
Marrone left a bad taste in everyone's mouth by walking out, but having them the verge of the playoffs with Kyle Orton as the QB was an impressive feat.
If that unit had Allen, they are in the playoffs. I even think they would have made it in with Tyrod Taylor in his 2015-16 form.
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If I had to Pick, I would say Aiyuk or Metcalf. I don't think that it is happening. Buffalo has been playing with the cap for years, and this is the year to pay the piper and eat some of that cap. Restructuring more contracts kicks the can down the road and I would rather have more cap space in 2025.
In addition, I feel like we need more help at CB if we decide to spend on one more option. After Douglas and Benford, we have Taron Johnson who is a good nickel dime package CB but gets beat a lot if starting and Elam who was so green and unprepared that McDermott preferred activating a years past their prime Josh Norman off the practice squad when there were injuries last year.
If injuries are an issue in the same way that they have been over the last two years,, I feel a lot less worried relying on Hollins, Claypool and Shorter as depth at WR than Elam and unproven street FA's at CB
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6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
The Bills haven't started a season without a WR that had accumulated at least 900 yards(a low bar) in any NFL season since 1987.
Right now, that's the case unless they trade for someone who's proven they can be a WR1 or a good WR2.
It's just another unnecessary leap of faith at the position.........same as the past 2 offseasons(which ultimately failed the team) but a considerably larger leap this time.
I am not necessarily taking a leap of faith and assuming a good group. Whether or not this works is wholly based on whether or not Kincaid, Shakir, Samuel and Coleman are ready to take on larger roles. It is not a guarantee that it will or wont happen, we will have to see. I do not think that it is ideal, but much better than where were in 2018( the primary topic of the post that I responded to).
I also do not feel like a declining disgruntled Diggs and a replacement level Davis were any more likely to elevate the group in 2024 then the current group. In addition, any of our top four WR options are likely to produce more than Sherfield and Harty in 2023.
We took a huge risk by not coming in with a true #1. We can only hope that it either pays off or that Beane and McDermott are willing to trade for someone if they begin to think that it won't
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16 minutes ago, Beck Water said:
Piss isn't sterile. #FACTS
I was totally gobsmacked when we traded Stefon Diggs. I expect him to be super-motivated to rehab and train his ass off this off season and lay down some good numbers for the Texans instead of visiting Paris for Fashion Week and attending Coachella during OTAs as he did in the 2023 off season.
I *think* the WR is better for 2024 than it was for Allen's rookie season but when I walk through it point by point, I wind up wondering if it's wishful thinking:
Kelvin Benjamin - 2014 Panthers 1st round pick with 1000+ and 900+ seasons along with two torn ACLs in his medical history and a torn meniscus the previous year. Well-paid and highly Demotivated.
Zay Jones - 2017 2nd round pick who had meagre yardage and major hands issues his rookie year but we hoped a torn labrum was responsible and all better now.
Jeremy Kerley - 8 year, 5 team journeyman whose best seasons were 827 and 667 yds
Andre' Holmes - 8 year, 4 team mostly ST journeyman, best season 693 yards
Robert Foster - fast UDFA with limited college play who needed to be cut and signed to the PS to get him to take it seriously
Isaiah McKenzie - fast gadget guy who couldn't run routes at the time, claimed off waivers from Denver mid-season
It really bothers me that I write the above and feel the need to second guess whether we're really better at this point.
This group is much better, primarily because nobody in the 2018 WR room was productive enough to even be a #4 for any other team. They were abyssmal.
We have no clear #1 in 2024, but I am certain that any of Shakir, Samuel, Coleman and maybe even MVS as they are today could have been the clear #1 option if they were in the 2018 group. In addition, Allen has Kincaid and Knox at TE instead of Charles Clay and Jason Croom.
A more fair comparison would be to the 2019 WR Group of Beasley, Brown, McKenzie, Roberts, Knox and Kroft.
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It was quite the run for Cephus here.
What was your favorite Quintez Cephus Bills moment? Mine was coming on here on the day that he was signed to make a witty post about him "being a gamble" and seeing immediately after logging on that at least a dozen others had the same idea before me.
Thanks for the memories.
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In the grand scheme of things, Buffalo did address the WR position by signing two veterans in Samuel and MVS and spending their top draft pick on Coleman. Unfortunately, it takes a lot to replace the loss of four receivers including the two who were seen as the #1 and #2. Keeping them may not have been better. Diggs' was disgruntled and his production was dropping off. Davis did not adjust to a starting role like hoped and was playing replacement level at best. Harty and Sherfield did virtually nothing so even if the top two out of the MVS/Claypool/Cephus/Shorter/Hollins/Hamler group get 20-30 catches each, it is an upgrade over those two.
This was also a cap strapped year, so Buffalo needed to be creative in adding depth. They went with borderline and last chance veterans at minimum contract levels instead of mid and late round draft picks at the WR position. Whether or not that pays off remains to be seen.
Allen did a good job of spreading the ball around after Brady took over, but the lack of a clear #1 is still a long term concern. We can only hope that Shakir, Coleman or Kincaid can develop into that role. In the meantime, if four of our receiver group can play consistently this season, we will be fine running this offense in 2024.
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I am seeing a lot of Shakir and Shorter, but that does not quite fit the question because they both have some expectations coming into the season. This would apply more to a scenario where before the season, the player is written off and/or seen as a poster child for why the team hasn't done enough or made the wrong choices at the position.
This would make the candidates players like Elam, Dorian Williams, and Some of the low risk high reward receivers that were signed.
I am going to go with either Hamler or Cephus at WR as this year's Bernard.
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This prompted me to look at out CB room, and I didn't realize just how thin that position is. After Douglas, Benford and Taron Johnson, it is JAG/replacement level. We really need Elam to step it up this year.
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I am not ready to give up on Elam just yet. Most of us saw Bernard, Dodson and Espeneza as expendable around this time last year. Sometimes it just takes a little longer for things to click.
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5 hours ago, PBF81 said:
It was my understanding that there were to be no WR questions on the exam.
50 minutes ago, Fleezoid said:Is there going to be a test?
This is one of those "impossible to solve" math problems that will result in the quiet angst-ridden janitor solving it during the break on their overnight shift and leaving everyone shocked and mystified the next day.
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5 hours ago, mrags said:
Keon Coleman should have done better in the 40
If Buffalo signed the top two 100m sprinters after the Summer Olympics, put some pads on them and had them just run far really fast, would that satisfy you?
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37 minutes ago, finn said:
It's such a juicy narrative--"Bills hand Mahomes AND Worthy to Chiefs!" that it will prevail unless things develop dramatically the other direction, like Coleman is the ROY and--"and," mind you--Worthy is an obvious bust. That's not likely to happen, so get ready for the storyline to be trotted out for the next several years.
The over/under for Tony Romo mentioning this in the first Bills/Chiefs game that he announces has to be in the triple digits.
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If filling immediate needs, I would say Stevie Johnson or Lee Evans and Brian Moorman
If personal favorites, I would say Kyle Williams and Marshawn Lynch.
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1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:
Samuel
Shakir
Coleman
I'm starting to get some hope that at least one (maybe two) of these other guys can rejuvenate themselves to push the above 3 for playing time.
Hamler
Hollins
Claypoole
Cephus
Shorter
Shavers
Isabella
Thompson
The UDFAs
Each one, on their own, has the odds against them. But compared to other years, there is some inherent talent with these guys.
The WR camp battles could get interesting.
There is also a chance that someone else after June 1st joins the "longshots".
If one out of the three in Claypool, Cephus or Hamler can play to their potential, that would go a long way in upgrading our WR room. It is not that far fetched, but I would rather seem them sign or trade for one more established veteran before the season starts than count on that happening.
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We don't need an OBJ, we already have a Chase Claypool at home.
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I dont see Claypool has a sure thing, but he has a slightly better chance than Hamler or Cephus of finding his niche and surprising everyone.
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I hope so, I see the potential, but it is not a guarantee. Lets not forget how many people saw Gabe Davis as the next breakthrough star two years ago. There is a huge difference on how you are covered when you are seen by opponents as the #4 or #5 option compared to the #1 or #2.
It will be interesting to see if Shakir can step up and fill that role.
Bill Belichick dating 24 yo cheerleader
in The Stadium Wall
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Waiting for the Intervention:Jordon episode where it shows her family saying that she is dating a much older guy who pays for her habit followed by a scene when the girl is being handed money by an "anonymous" guy in a patriots hoodie with a blurred out face and altered voice before buying her next hit.