dgrochester55
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Since every media outlet will only tell you their reason why they think it is good or bad. Here is a link to the actual house version of the bill for those who are interested. I plan to reserve judgment until I have read the final version.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/1/text
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The funny thing about national injunctions is that Dems in 2022 and 2023 including Harris and some of the justices found it important to reduce or ban national injunctions when Texas judges were doing the same thing against Biden. In all fairness, I am sure than many conservatives were fine with the process back then. Realistically, we can all admit that if the Supreme court had made this ruling two years ago, that the party reactions would have been opposite. With that in mind, I think that it is a fair ruling and would have also thought it back then.
The ruling went beyond partisan. This loophole was always there, but was now being weaponized. This was a power that was starting to be abused by both sides over the last few years and was way getting out of hand in this term. It would have only gotten worse for Trump and even more so for the next President, regardless of party.
The ability to start the process of a class action ruling gives state judges the power to fight what they perceive as unfair, but requires a little more support so that it is not the same few extreme people (for either party) having the power to slow the progress of a President down at will and using it frivolously. The decision yesterday was good for the country as a whole and gets rid of an disproportionate power balance while replacing it with a more reasonable solution.
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1 hour ago, B-Man said:
In a 6-3 decision authored by Justice Amy Coney Barrett, the court granted the government's applications to partially stay the district court's nationwide injunctions in the birthright citizenship cases, noting that universal injunctions "likely exceed the equitable authority that Congress has granted to federal courts."
As we've discussed previously, the issue before the court here wasn't the merits of the executive order or birthright citizenship. Nor was the court asked to decide here whether nationwide injunctions might be appropriate in other contexts. Rather, the issue before the court was whether it is appropriate for district court judges to issue nationwide or universal injunctions in this context, although the language contained in the opinion certainly is encouraging as to the broader context.
No doubt there will be further analysis to come on this one, but this is a solid win for the Trump administration.
Politics aside, this ruling is logical. I am not sure how it makes sense for someone at a lower level to be able to have enough power to universally override the higher-ups ruling at will if they do not like it. We can't do that to our managers and supervisors at work and Josh Allen couldn't override Beane and McDermott on a free agent signing after it has been done. They should still have a complaint or appeal process, but now it is more balanced so that judges on either side can't use frivolous stall tactics in the name of partisan politics..
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1 hour ago, stevestojan said:
I don’t know how anyone can deny
- now, a few days later with good/clearer intel - that:
1) This was a resoundingly successful mission based on its goal and the resulting outcome.
2) the “leak” was weak far left nonsensical reporting at best, criminal conduct at worst.
3) We can still disagree on whether the action and mission itself was still in the best interest of America. But, its seeming more and more to me (a far left whacko or a MAGA in disguise, depending on who you ask on this bored) that it was at least not as dangerous a move as I thought initially. So I’ll stand corrected there, for now, unless Iran does something insanely stupid. And I don’t think they want to be wiped off the face of the planet over “pride.” But again, what the ***** do I know?
4) Pete liquid lunch Hegseth still isn’t the best we could do for this very important government position, but at least this time, he seemed to do something right.
That’s where I’m at right now.
This is a very fair stance. As much as I despised Biden, I would have given him along with our military full credit if he had accomplished a successful mission like this. The safety of our country is a higher priority than anyone in office and if it turns out Iran was actually close to using a nuke on Israel (I understand that this is a big if), then this was a heroic effort and decision.
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On 6/23/2025 at 1:12 AM, Big Blitz said:
The ultimate way of proving this "100% opposite of Orange man no matter what" mentality will be if RFK Jr. and Trump but a ban on pharmaceutical ads on TV.
The sudden emergence of millions who find those commercials entertaining and informative will come out in droves even though i have yet to hear one person from any political party ever be pro Big Pharma ads on TV as of today.
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"Yeah, but is it fully resolved or mostly resolved?........." CNN
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Trump: We wiped out all nuclear sites
The UN: Stating that Trump was successful in this operation, while using an analogy of a father breaking up a fight (which the media of course took out of context by pretending that analogies and metaphors don't exist) to demonstrate how successful they thought it was.
Us Intel: Severe damage was done in Iran, but we do not know how much yet
Most People: This was a good thing, we did not need Iran as a nuclear threat
Many democrats: We still don't like Trump, but I am glad this happened, this individual attack was a success..
CNN, and NYT: Well technically he didnt do anything because we don't know if it is mostly or completely gone, and the Iranian leader said that no damage was done, so we will take his word for it and assume that Trump failed.
This is yet another out of thousands of reasons why no one should see mainstream media as having any credibility anymore. They aren't just slanted towards a side anymore, they are so against one person and consumed by it, that they put themselves in a position of defending and rooting for an enemy country and taking the word of their leader over ours.
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On 6/24/2025 at 7:20 AM, 4th&long said:
What was that you pathetic weak ass bi tch?
Since there is not one positive thing going on in the Democrat party and no clear direction, this is the of rhetoric that the progressive/extreme left side is now reduced to. Their true colors are coming out. This is more like who they really are.
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If admitting that Trump did something right is more painful to you than a potential nuclear strike, then you might have TDS.
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If you want to separate the liberals who think for themselves and form their own opinions from the TDS people who let the politicians and media behind that movement do the thinking for them, the reaction to this ceasefire should determine that.
If admitting that Trump made a good move is more painful than a potential nuclear war, then it is TDS. No one in their right mind should think that avoiding a possible nuclear war and a ceasefire between two nations that could have done a lot of damage to each other is a bad thing.
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Not sure what to think yet. If they truly stopped Iran from having a nuclear weapon, I am 100% behind it. If it is another instance of WMD like 2003, Trump is cooked.
I will see what happens over the next few days before reserving judgment.
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Sounds like the protest last week should have been called. "No kings unless I agree with the politics." Where are all of those protestors in responses to Obama's statement? Or was it only partisan and political?
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1 hour ago, Trump_is_Mentally_fit said:
Just as crazy as storming the capital on Jan 6 where cops were attacked?
The murder of two politicians, the burning of elderly people with a flamethrower and the assassination of two embassy members happened in the past month and all you have is "but but but JaNuArY 6tH"? Keep the tone deaf, out of touch, clueless posts coming.
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11 minutes ago, JDHillFan said:
Kid is consistently extreme with his comments up to being “very pleased” with the idea of ICE agents being murdered. All the while imagining he’s got the high moral ground. It’s disgusting.
People on the left have to do an honest evaluation of their party and goals and ask themselves why this is happening. Its one thing to go behind the keyboard and play the role of a troll, but things like this are happening almost once a week now. It is also time for all of the media to take a long look at how they are delivering news and acknowledge the potential impact that it is having on viewers in a post COVID society where mental health issues are widespread in every area and demographic.
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https://apnews.com/article/minnesota-lawmakers-shot-d7983e1e4f1a7573a487cab1a98cd17
-Today's attacks on two democrat politicians from a former Walz Staff member
-Riots that have shut down Los Angeles for almost a week
-A flamethrower attack on elderly people doing a peaceful demonstration
-The murder of an embassy member and his wife by a gunman
-The Murder of the Healthcare executive and the glorification of the gunman as a hero
-Two assassination attempts on Trump during the campaign
When does it end? I know that 95 percent of democrats don't stand for things like this, when does it become too much for you?
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This happened quickly because unlike most people on the far left, Trump and Musk have the ability to get over things and move on.
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10 hours ago, aristocrat said:
Great until NbcNews and CNN take one photo of it and then plaster 'MAGA insurrection" on the headlines for two weeks.
Actually, never mind. They would probably find an excuse do that anyway.
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8 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:
I don't mention the protestors with signs and chants because its their right to do so. The second those signs and chants turn into interfering with a government agency doing their job by arresting actual criminals, then I have a problem with it.
I cant tell you how comical it is to read you write something like "But reducing an entire movement to a few bad actors (probably bankrolled by the same people who fund groups like the Proud Boys) isn’t just lazy - it’s propaganda. You know it, you just don’t care" when you constantly do the same thing to "MAGA" republicans. And by constantly I don't mean like my few responses a week, but constantly, even in threads where it's just you responding to yourself.
Its hard to take anything you write seriously because you're a constant hypocrite.
In some cases like Tibs, Doc and Roundy I feel like they are actual people being true to their thoughts, but Homelander is a pure troll with no other intention besides that.
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Today, I just learned that intervening when foreigners who shouldn't have been here in the first place after their protests are overwhelming local police is "fascism". Par for the course when it comes to the TBD TDS squad. Things like this and last week's attacks are campaigning for the Republican side in 2026 better than anything that they could say. No one wants that chaos no matter how much the media tries to change the narrative. Keep em coming guys.
Edit: I assume that Homelander's laugh is due to the absurdity of the takes on the left. I agree.
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7 hours ago, Figster said:
I think it's important to note Trump threatened to break contracts with Musk 1st, no?
Before we paint Musk as the bad guy. The new Bill proposes 6 Billion in cuts on Nasa projects. Some in different stages of completion.
Is this the kind of thanks Musk deserves for being the fall guy? Thinking about selling or giving away Tesla now?
I do not feel a particular loyalty or disdain to either. Both made many irrational threats, but the one that I referenced would put astronauts in jeopardy. TSLA is not a core stock in my portfolio, but I occasionally buy and sell it strategically, this doesn't change that, and neither did his alliance with Trump (besides buying a little before November anticipating a spike from a Trump win). I would not buy any electric car until the range, battery life and long term value get better. I would never vandalize anyone's cars for any reason, but even more so for political ones. Overall, this does not worry me that much yet, they are two hotheads feuding and will probably patch up as quickly as they started the feud.
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3 minutes ago, K D said:
If he just puts a VS. at the bottom of the heart, it remains current, and prevents a painful removal process.
Note: I know that this is satire
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I see Musk the same as I did before, Brilliant, innovative, key to Trumps's election, but also a self-absorbed narcissist like most ultra rich billionaires have to be to get to that level. Him and Trumps goals aligned for months, but I always knew that he had his own agenda and goals in mind. I don't mean that in a discrediting way, just that it was naive to assume differently and it is not Musk's fault if others did. As far as the tiff, both acted childish yesterday, but Musk crossed a line by threatening to remove SpaceX which could jeopardize astronauts.
If any lefties whether politicians, celebrities or regular people suddenly love Musk after six months of acting like he is the worst threat on the planet, it is concrete proof that their opinion is solely dictated by the media and/or TDS. I must say that I have not seen much of that here in the last few pages and I am pleasantly surprised.
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1 hour ago, ComradeKayAdams said:
Read again my first paragraph and the post to which I was responding.
1. My “twisted propaganda version” of history: Be specific. Tell me exactly what you think is my propaganda and what is truth. My version of history comes from the widely accepted “New Historians” of Israel (Benny Morris et al.).
2. My alleged TDS: I’ve been calling this conflict a genocide since November 2023 and have been extremely critical of Zombie Zionist Biden the entire time. I was highly critical of my own political people (Bernie + AOC) for not denouncing the genocide much earlier. I’ve been against apartheid Israel since first reading Chomsky in high school.
Can we talk about YOUR Trump apologisms?? Any profound thoughts on AIPAC money, Miriam Adelson’s special $100+ million bribe, and Trump’s real estate interests in an ethnically cleansed Gaza??
3. Palestinians “started a battle” on 10/7/23: Sure, but what U.S. diplomatic events precipitated that battle?? Name them. And how did the broader “war” influence this battle (Balfour Declaration, Nakba, Green Line disputes, Camp David, Oslo Accords, Rabin assassination, both Intifadas, etc.)?
4. Your “barbaric squatters” remark: Oh! A very interesting and revelatory choice of words, indeed! The international community, FYI, does officially recognize the state of Palestine. They consider Gaza, the West Bank, East Jerusalem, the Golan Heights, chunks of southwest Syria, and parts of southern Lebanon to all be land that Israel is illegally occupying.
5. “Not one person in Palestine” publicly condemning attack: Shocking that you’ve been unaware of the peaceful humanitarian leaders and organizations throughout Palestine and abroad! I can excuse most Gazans for not vocally expressing their outrage because they’ve been preoccupied with basic survival in a dystopian landscape for the past 20 months.
6. “No doubt good and peaceful individuals” within Gaza: Your magnanimity warms my heart! Half of all Gazans aren’t even adults, FYI.
7. “They should be able to escape that and go to a more civilized” place: Agreed! Oh, wait…that whole “total blockade” situation in Gaza since 2007…and that whole “ethnic cleansing is wrong” concept…
8. “Palestine has lost any right to exist as a nation and they get what they deserve.” A powerful final thought from you.
I’ll counter by arguing that the far superior country, militarily, has certain moral obligations. The U.N. and the ICJ have been compiling an outrageous litany of evidence for recent war crimes against Israel. The far-right Israeli government now openly expresses their plans for ethnic cleansing in both Gaza AND the West Bank. Academic experts on genocide are now unanimous in their agreement on calling this a genocide. These are all pretty glaring examples of Israel’s breach in their moral obligations.
Just the other day, Jeremy Scahill (investigative journalist for Drop Site News) revealed details on ceasefire negotiations showing that Israel doesn’t even want Hamas to leave their positions of governance! In other words, Israel WANTS the genocide and ethnic cleansing to continue. The presence of Hamas is Israel’s one remaining justification for their contemptible behavior. So it was never about saving the hostages (no complete resolution after 20 months??) or about destroying Hamas. It was always about stealing more land and taking more natural resources…the settler colonial Zionist raison d’etre since the New Yishuv, wrapped up in a pretty Biblical bow.
My solution: systematically dismantle the Jewish ethnostate of Israel. No two states. One state of Palestine, with equal rights for all. Have explicit constitutional protections for minority religious/ethnic groups like Jews. Employ heavy international/U.S. guidance early on to build up a peacefully functioning Palestine-Israel state.
Oh I hear ya, but I also look at this as a moral imperative to provide at least some type of response.
I didn't bother to read it. You are trying to justify attacking elderly people in another continent with a flamethrower, that is sick and evil. I do not need to debate with or acknowledge extremists. Palestine wrote a check that their body couldn't cash in 2023 and got exactly what they deserved. Palestine is dead wrong, and the world will be better when they cease to exist as a nation. full stop. Maybe after that, the innocent civilians there can live a stable life where they do not have to worry about their own government holding them hostage as expendable leverage at strategic battle sites every time someone fights back after the terrorist attacks that Palestine always starts. The rest of us are sick of the crap. I will never compromise with terrorism. Block me if you don't like that. Have the day that you deserve.
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Wowsers, the left does eat their own! Is this iron law #2? Only Frankish would know!
I see it as encouraging that other true blue Democrats are seeing the light, just like i hope that most of us conservatives would take issue if the Christian Nationalist extreme portion of the right became more visible. Polarizing extremes and terror have no place anywhere.
Once again, Americans will die because of Donald Trump and his voters
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