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If they lose to Cincinnati they are not good enough to win the Super Bowl.
And, the way they have been playing the last 6 weeks or so suggests they are good, but not elite.
They could improve though. Totally possible.
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On 4/27/2022 at 10:51 PM, wppete said:
I like Elam. If he was playing hurt last year maybe that could explain some of the weak tackling. His coverage skills are great, he’s a great athlete and has great size.
Let's hope he turns out better than Levi Wallace, and close to Tre White. He has that potential.
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15 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said:
I am pretty unbiased on which CB we chose so long as it was addressed. I figured if we didn't grab one in the 1st or 2nd round we would be signing a veteran this weekend. I am glad we have a cost controlled contract on a rookie CB though with Tre already being signed to the big deal.
I have always thought our defense was 1 good cover CB away from being a legit defense. Hopefully with our interior beef on DL and Von Miller/progress from young DE's it catapults us into being a scary defense. I do feel like last year we were ranked better than we were on defense because of how poor our schedule was. this year will be a better gauge on our ability on defense I think.
I realize depth at several positions may be a priority but I am of the mindset of more playmakers on offense too. That puts us into scary opponent territory.
Hey Fred Slacks,
What you touch on makes sense.
We went from Levi Wallace to Kaiir Elam at corner. We are better long-term.
We picked up Von Miller, Tim Settle, Daquan Jones, and Jordan Phillips while dumping Star and Vernon Butler. We are better.
Go Bills.
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16 hours ago, TFBillsfan said:
Now that the drama is over with our 1st pick and addresses a significant need, do you think Beane holds at 57? Would he make a move up for Hall. Otherwise, feel like he goes with BPA.
Thoughts?
I would not move up for Breece Hall. No.
I like a bunch of possible players. Don't care about the position.
TE Trey McBride, OL Nickolas Petit-Frere, LB Chad Muma, SAF Nick Cross, SAF Jaquan Brisker, and CB Kyler Gordon if he is still on the board at 57.
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On 4/27/2022 at 6:43 PM, JoPoy88 said:
He’s interesting, great athlete. Problem is he can’t tackle.
I think his lack of tackling is a little overblown.
I see him making tackles in his highlights....is he blowing guys up? No. But he is adequate in that part of his game.
Honestly, Tre White isn't excellent a missile when it comes to tackling.
On 4/28/2022 at 10:15 AM, TheProcess said:How many times can the WGR guys mispronounce Elam’s last name? 🤦♂️
Ki-ear ?
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WR Wan'Dale Robinson
RB Rachaad WhiteI know they will draft a tight end, just don't know which one.
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1 minute ago, TheBrownBear said:
You lost me immediately by listing Bishop Sankey who was the 54th pick in his draft
Sorry, I will do better. My memory is not that good anymore.
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Can you get a really good running back in the 1st round of the NFL draft, especially early on? Yes.
Can you get a really good running back in the back end of the 1st round? Let's see:
These are RBs drafted in the first round. Would you be happy if Breece Hall turns out like:
- Ryan Matthews
- Doug Martin
- Todd Gurley
- Rashad Penny
- Sony Micheal
- Clyde Edwards-Helaire
- Mark Ingram
It appears some of these RBs had flashes, but it is not sustainable for 4-5 years. Others just weren't that good. Is it worth the #25 pick if you only get 2 good years out of a RB?
Thoughts?
IMO Looking at that list, it is rare to get 5 good years out of a running back. Definitely some luck and randomness involved.
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13 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:
Trade Up into top 15: WR Jameson Williams
Trade Up 20-24: WR Treylon Burks
Stay At 25: CB Kaiir Elam
Trade Down 26-32: WR George Pickens
If Trade Down into top of 2nd: HB Breece Hall
I could be totally wrong, but I don't see the Bills / Beane trading up for a WR.
In fact, I don't think they take one in the 1st round. He has something else in mind.
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Trayvon Walker goes #1
QB Malik Willis will land with the "right" team
CB Andrew Booth falls out of the 1st round
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3 hours ago, LeGOATski said:
I believe he will be. He's a potential answer at S and more immediately at CB. His zone coverage ability and closing speed is perfect for McD's defense. And he's a hood matchup for the particular WRs and TEs in the AFCE.
Tyreek mostly works from the slot. Dax Hill could stay with him.
2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:I would love this pick. He’s a “sleep good at night” pick. I am not sure he will be there.
It will be real interesting if Daxton Hill and Kaiir Elam are on the board at 25. Which way will Beane go?
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I was wondering if the Bills had met with Kaiir Elam, and just now COVER1 is reporting he did have a Pre-Draft Visit with the Bills.
CB Kaiir Elam, 6' 1 1/2", 191 lbs, arms 30 7/8", forty = 4.39
Kaiir has always been a possibility at 25, but just recently draftniks have recognized he is a 1st round CB. He has good height at 6' 1.5" and ran a really fast forty at the combine (4.39).
Here are the Corners (and Safeties) the Bills have been linked to. Beane should be able to get at least one of them:
DB Dax Hill - Mtg
S Lewis Cine – #30Pre-Draft Visit
S Nick Cross – #30Pre-Draft Visit
S Kyle Hamilton - Zoom
CB Kaiir Elam - #30Pre-Draft Visit
CB Andrew Booth – #30Pre-Draft Visit
CB Martin Emerson – #30Pre-Draft Visit
CB Montaric Brown – Zoom
CB Joshua Williams – Mtg
CB Roger McCreary – #30Pre-Draft Visit-
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7 hours ago, hondo in seattle said:
Beane once said something to the effect that he likes to address all position needs before the draft making it easier to do BPA during the draft. So I really thought he'd sign a CB by now.
But Beane knows that, generally speaking, the longer he waits, the lower the price for a FA. The risk of waiting is, of course, that the FA you want will come off the market. I think - maybe - Beane has enough confidence in our current CB depth that he's willing to take that risk?We all assumed he would sign a veteran CB BEFORE the draft. That was logical.
Maybe he has talked to a couple of vets and plans to follow up with one or two of them immediately following the draft.
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Draft. I always focus on all 7-8 picks, not just the 1st round pick.
The 1st round pick, when picking at 25, is not likely to be an elite, all-pro player.
So I am cool if we draft Daxton Hill and he bounces around the secondary as a rookie, and then becomes a full time safety when Jordan Poyer leaves at the end of 2022.
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I think it will be Daxton Hill.
OTHER: Daxton Hill
32 minutes ago, LeGOATski said:Daxton Hill.
Win the division first. They believe he's the answer to Tyreek Hill.
Hill vs Hill.
Daxton Hill is a helluva football player and DB.
He is great blitzer. He likes to hit. He reacts quickly when flying up.
If he is the 2023 Jordan Poyer replacement, it would be a good pick.
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3 hours ago, Motor26 said:
How close was the gap between Woods/Kolar and Ruckert? I personally like Ruckert better since he is a better blocker.
Jelani Woods has that freakish athletic size/traits that Beane seems to favor.
The Bills took the time to fly out to Colorado State to put Trey McBride through a private workout, so there is some interest there...and the Bills know he is going to go in the 2nd round....so I don't think they did it just to pass time.
McBride / Jelani Woods / Charlie Kolar / Cade Otton / Cole Turner .....there are a bunch of TEs to consider.
It wasn't that long ago McBeane traded UP, giving two 4th round picks for a 3rd round pick to draft Dawson Knox. It makes me think if there is one they really like, they will go for him. Maybe the 3rd round is where they pick one.
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5 minutes ago, ExWNYer said:
Translation: Some GM really wants him and is floating rumors to scare away other teams.
That is what I am thinking.
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The Bills could benefit with any one of these 5 safeties:
Safety
1. Kyle Hamilton, Norte Dame (1st)
2. Daxton Hill, Michigan (1st)
3. Lewis Cine, Georgia (2nd)
4. Jalen Pitre, Baylor (2nd)
5. Jaquan Brisker, Penn State (2nd)
I would love to know what the medical is on Andrew Booth.
PS No one talks about Booth's knee surgery 2 years ago. I wonder if that is a concern.
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Doesn't appear so.
Despite everyone insisting that Beane would sign a vet Free Agent before the draft.
It is slightly surprising.
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23 hours ago, Georgie said:
In general, I want the 1st round pick to contribute immediately. Reps differ by position and QB is an exception. If Bills pick a CB,I want him to fill in for Tre temporarily and then compete with,or complement, Jackson.
If IOL,I would expect a starter at RG. A WR could see some reps, maybe return kicks.
It sure would be nice if our 1st round pick contributed immediately.
With Ed Oliver, he was slow in his rookie year. I suppose you could say Greg Rousseau did okay his rookie year, although he hit the rookie wall later in the season.Going back to Shaq Lawson, he had surgery, missed games, and then was going getting up to speed.
If the Bills draft Kyler Gordon, Trent McDuffie, Andrew Booth or Dax Hill, you would think they could see a lot of playing time early.
20 hours ago, Ethan in Portland said:I went back to 2001 and have found only one draft that produced 4 starters in two years.
2017 - White, Jones, Dawkins, and Milano. And to say Jones was a starter is a bit if a stretch. That was the worst WR unit in NFL.
That said there were several drafts that produced three solid starters. If Beane is able to do that then it will go a long way to adding lower cost talent to the roster.
The benchmark in the NFL for years has been if you get 3 good starters out of 7 picks, you did well.
Even if you go back to the Jim Kelly era, the Bills did draft well, but it was never more than 3 good ones per year. Albeit guys like Josh Reed, Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, Jim Kelly, etc were very impactful.
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5 hours ago, Mat68 said:
Only guy I can see Buffalo go get would be Sauce. If he is available with Carolina could they package enough to move that far? Idk. Carolina doesnt have another pick til 180’s I believe. 25 89 and next years 32nd. Give them the extra 1st to try and trade for a qb next season. With the perceived less class maybe Buffalo could put a package together that wouldnt be crazy.
I wonder how much of a difference there will be between Sauce in his NFL career and Booth's NFL career?
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1 hour ago, msw2112 said:
Correct. To put more context to this tade, the Pats traded back 13 spots from their 5th round pick in exchange for a 7th round pick.
Pats trade away to Texans: Pick #170
Pats acquire from Texans: Pick #183 and #245.
I would say this trade is fair, but slightly favors the Pats. At that later point in the draft, the difference in quality of players isn't that great and the chances of them making the roster are about the same. I doubt there's a statistic that would show the success rate of Player #170 vs. Player #183, but I would guess it wouldn't be much different. So the Pats get a fairly equivalent pick, plus another flyer in the 7th round. It certainly seems like a silly trade for the Texans to make at this point in time. I could see it being made during the draft (as mentioned above) if there was a particular player targeted at that spot that the Texans really wanted and feared might get away, but why make that trade now?
Well said. Players at that point in the draft all have about the same chance of success, so basically Belicheck picked up an extra 7th.
Maybe he gets lucky with that extra pick.
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2 hours ago, Einstein's Dog said:
Objection to a lot of things in this OP. First, the FO uses the draft for the future, not short term objectives, so grading in on the first year results is not the way to assess the value. A key component of drafting for the future is using the draft as a cap management tool. A great way to manage the cap is to use the 1st round pick with the BPA at a premium position of use.
Secondly, while Diggs was an excellent trade it pales in comparison to choosing JA17. And this highlights the above, the first year results are not the way to assess how well a draft is done. If for instance J Williams is picked and has a JA17 like trajectory where he becomes a top 5 WR in 2-3 years, it would be well worth it.
You missed the point.
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10 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:
Would be nice to get Greg Rousseau-like production.
Rousseau hit a rookie wall as a pass rusher.........the difference between his play early in the season in KC when he had that great interception.......versus in the playoffs was literally enough to decide both games.
But that's exactly why it's foolish to rely on rookies to address your biggest needs on a championship roster.
Fans expecting 20 games of contest changing play from pick #25 are asking A WHOLE LOT more of the pick than they can reasonably expect.
And that shouldn't be the objective of a 1st round pick..........that should be too find a long term asset at a position you would have to pay $20M-$30M aav to get on the open market 3-5 years down the road. Franchise building blocks.
But Rousseau was actually also really good.........almost the exception.........he lead all NFL defensive lineman in total run stops despite only playing 49% of his teams snaps.
Well said.
If the Bills draft a CB, and the CB becomes a starter before the end of the fall, I think that would be a win.
If the rookie CB starts Day 1, that would be super successful IMO.
16 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:Wow that is a tall order for any GM on any team even more difficult on a roster as loaded as the Bills.
Very tall order. Look at the Bills 2019 Draft. They got 3 starters out of their 8 picks. Which is considered successful.
1) Ed Oliver, DL – solid starter
2) Cody Ford, OL - bust
3) Devin Singletary, RB – ok starter
3) Dawson Knox, TE – really solid starter
5) Vosean Joseph, LB - flush
6) Jaquan Johnson, S - meh
7) Darryl Johnson, OLB - push
7b) Tommy Sweeney, TE - whatever
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RD 3, Pick 91: LB Dorian Williams, Tulane
in The Stadium Wall
Posted
With pick 91, the Bills could have drafted:
OT Wanya Morris
DT Brodic Martin
NT Siaka Ika
OT Nick Saldiveri
CB Kelee Ringo
Let's see in 2 years who is the better NFL player.