Drunken Pygmy Goat
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1 hour ago, Joe in Winslow said:
Haiku is for miami week.
You risk upsetting the natural order with this thread.
Or its a head start
Dolphins technically next
If Bills lose I quit
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The bye week blues has officially hit me. I love football, and will watch other games, but it still sucks going 2 weeks without a Bills game. It's not quite like the offseason on the boards, but it's as close as we'll get to it until the Bills season officially ends, and I'm sure we'll beat a couple dead horses over the next several days.
How about some haiku fun to pass the time? It can be a basic breakdown of the team so far, something funny, **Pats hate, etc. This board has plenty of witty posters, so why not?
I'll start:
Jones had his fair share
Fifth in two years is a steal
Beane is a wizard
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11 hours ago, Mark Vader said:
You guys are funny, but please stop tempting fate.
Yes, the Dolphins are a traveling clown show, but the Bills need to approach this game as any other.
I'm a paranoid Bills fan. I don't celebrate until the Bills have the lead with 00:00 on the clock in the 4th quarter.
Even then, I wait 5 seconds to make sure there's no yellow hankey on the carpet.
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3 hours ago, ngbills said:
The league is very muddled these days. Few teams at the top, few at the bottom and a ton in the middle. The teams in the middle can change really fast. Sometimes due to injuries and sometimes for no reason at all.
Bottom is clearly - MIA, NYJ, WAS
Next Bottom - CIN, DEN, AZ
The Closer to Bottom than top - OAK, ATL, PIT, NYG, TEN, TB, CAR, IND, JAC
The Closer to Top than Bottom - HOU, MIN, BAL, SEA, CLE, LAC, BUF, DET, SF, GB, LAR, PHI, CHI, DAL, NO
The Top - NE, KC
Luckily for Bills this season we play 7 games against the bottom of the league. So we can split the remaining 9 games vs mid to better teams and still finish with 11-12 wins. This is the season that anyone could wind up in the AFC title game. Its a year to take advantage of. I do think we are below the Chiefs and Pats, but I when you have a good defense you can make anything happen.
SF is definitely a top team. If not for some flukey TOs, they destroy PIT. They had 5 and still won.
Their my "2nd" team. They would have been decent last year if not for a TON of critical injuries. Silver lining was they found out about Breida, and landed Bosa.
I said before the season that if they stay healthy, their floor is 10 wins. They look really strong and deep, and can beat any team in the league.
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56 minutes ago, Limeaid said:
Jets were mediocre when we played them but they got worse due to Bills playing them.
When Darnold comes back (is Mosley back?), they'll be a .500 ish team. Much better than their current record indicates, anyways.
48 minutes ago, RiotAct said:true, if Darnold was still healthy I think they’d maybe have a win.
Maybe. Their first half schedule is brutal.
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2 hours ago, msw2112 said:
While he makes some big mistakes, Allen is a gamer. He elevates his game in the 4th quarter when we need it the most. It's the "it" factor that many other Bills QBs have lacked. Fitz, for example, had many huge games with big passing numbers and multiple TDs. When the game was on the line, however, he usually threw a pick or fumbled the ball. Tyrod was a little different. He didn't have the big passing numbers that Fitz had, but he similarly lacked the ability to get it done when the game was on the line. Rather than a pick or fumble, Tyrod meekly turned it over on downs. ☹️
To he fair to Fitz, he had a bit of "gamer" in him.
He just didn't have the arm, or weapons to go with it. Not that he was ever going to be a top QB or anything, but any QB that intentionally hits a DB instead of going out of bounds earns points in my book.
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Just now, Sherlock Holmes said:
Obviously being facetious but you do watch him punt right? I would guess he's almost dead last in every category. I can almost guarantee he is dead last in the league in net as well as TBs. I would also guess my choice of punter who I banged the table for is probably the best punter in the league like I have always said. Anger!!!!
We certainly need better from the punter, consistency wise, but who else out there can replace him and be an upgrade. The Bills gave hon some competition this summer, and he won the job.
I'm not necessarily saying there isn't someone better, I'm seriously curiois. But if there is someone, I think the Bills would have brought him in by now.
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Just now, Sherlock Holmes said:
Bojo can't place a ball inside the 25 except by touchback, and he can't not shank 20 yard punts every other punt. He's hot garbage so far, isn't this why Schmidt was cut?
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The officials were shoddy, thats for sure. Two players side by side CLEARLY false start, yet encroachment is called, and it led to a TD. Milano holding call was garbage. And Milano was CLEARLY HELD on the 20+ yard Henry run, with Henry running right past them, yet no flag.
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Confidence is a big deal when it comes to developing a young QB. And when you have a gamer type QB, you trust him enough to get the job done when it matters.
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51 minutes ago, WhoTom said:
Aw, man - bad flashback.
Same here
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8 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:
I don't subscribe to the Mike Schopp school of never punting. I say take the points, especially in a game that could come down to 3.
I'm with you. I was pretty mad at the call.
QB sneak/draw is great in certain situations, anthe **Pats have done it for years with Brady...but not on 4th and almost 2. I wanted them to take the FG, but after lining up, was hoping for some misdirection or jet sweep there.
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5 hours ago, Lurker said:
Teams are over-playing the run, daring Allen to be the difference maker.
I like that Daboll has enough confidence in Josh to say, "OK, have it your way. We'll beat you through the air"
I like that approach against all teams except for NE. With how well our dedense fares against their offense, just manage the game and run the ball. Keep it close, limit giveaways, and you give yourself a real shot to win. Granted, the Bills did pretty much the opposite last week and still had a good chance in the end, but perhaps without those giveaways, they play with a lead at home againt them.
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5 hours ago, Simon said:
Before that final drive when they went to clock-killing mode, I think the Bills pass:run ration was close to 3 : 1.
Brian Daboll really needs to recognize what kind of defense he's got complimenting him and start approaching his play-calling duties a little less tactically and a little more strategically.
There's no reason your 23yr old wet-behind-the-ears QB needs to be dropping back 40 times in a game in which you haven't played from behind for a single second. I think Coach needs to trust his defense and take pressure off his OLine by calling games a bit more conservatively.
I see it both ways.
As nice as it is that the Bills are winning right now, they probably aren't winning a Super Bowl this year. Even if they make the playoffs, they need crawl before they walk. The Bills under JA have zero playoff experience.
Perhaps part of the pass-happy mentality is to focus more on getting Josh the reps and experience now in the passing game, so that he is better for it down the road, and sooner rather than later as a result (as frustrating as it may be at times, because it isn't always working). Lets face it, he still has a long way to go before we consider him a prolific passer. He's improving in certain aspects, and aside from last week, the Bills have been able to overcome whatever shortcomings the Bills have had in the passing game.
Maybe part of the thought process is that, because they have such a good defense, they can afford to be aggressive in their offensive play calling. Either it's going to work and the Bills will start pulling away, or it doesn't work and the defense will bail them out, and 4th quarter Josh will step up and do just enough...WHILE he's still learning.
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2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:
Maybe they should keep going for it on 4th down instead of kicking field goals. That works out so well.
Wasn't that in the first half? (I was pissed too tho)
1 hour ago, Virgil said:We’ve been at a higher percent and missed
True, but that was with worse teams and a stronger conference. AFC is pretty so-so this year, record wise. Plus, the Bills schedule is pretty favorable this go round.
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12 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
I agree. Just curious as to how and when we become fans. My becoming a Bills fans was total luck or unluck as I like to mock it sometimes as I have spent all of my life in California with no relations to Buffalo. Dad just casually got into betting on the Bills during the start of the glory years and I've been hooked ever since. And of course Dad now hardly follows the Bills at all but does consider them his team. Just not a die hard fan like my brother and I were sucked into.
I was born in WNY, whole family from there. We moved to Florida just before I turned 5. The Bills were already pretty good then. Being so far from home, watching Bills games made us feel "at home". And being good, they were on TV here a lot, especially since the Jaguars didn't exist until 1995.
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14 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:
Cool timeline. But how are you only a fan since '88? I'm a fan since about '90 when I was six and must be about 15 years younger than yourself.
I'm not one to ever question a person's famdom, as there are no rules to how or why.
My earliest memory was the 51-3 thrashing of the Raiders when I was 6. Been a fan ever since
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19 minutes ago, RevWarRifleman said:
Bills would have won if Flutie started that game. He had way better pocket-presence than Johnson, and had the ability to make things happen when plays broke down.
I believe more points would have been scored if he was in and at the time, Bills had a Super Bowl calibre defense. Bills offense was never explosive with Johnson in
because he was slow with his reads when the ball was snapped.
It's all water under the bridge now after all these years. But that's my 2 cents.
Hindsight opinion. Flutie likely would have been better, but the Titans have a much different defensive gameplan if Flutie plays.
We'll never know the answer...
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1 hour ago, JMF2006 said:
Are Flutie Flakes a cure for ED ?
Eat them now, and you may never have a stiffy again.
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16 minutes ago, nedboy7 said:
For me it is not about who "deserves to win". If you are arguing the actual call was good then that's fine. But imo there is no such thing as to who deserved to win based on previous plays or history. Otherwise they would base wins on performance and not points.
If you believe in destiny, you think the "Music City Miracle" was meant to be, after the comeback game.
I used to believe in destiny, but I'm still not rich...
I am now a firm believer in karma and free will. Maybe the Bills got help in the comeback game (Beebe TD), and maybe the Titans got help in the MMM game, but karma played more of a rile than destiny. The Bills were seeing the effects of their own causes unfolding.
Sure, we can say that we don't know how that game goes with Flutie at QB, and we can argue about how good or not good that Flutie was, but one thing he had that RJ didn't was elusiveness and escapability. Perhaps he fares better under pressure than RJ did that day (and pretty much every day), and has a little Flutie magic left in him. Maybe with Flutie, the Bills have a bigger lead, and a miraculous comeback would have been needed from the Titans, as opposed to one single play. If that were the case, and the Titans did it, maybe I would still believe in destiny.
Either way, the Bills were lying in the bed that they had made.
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I was a month shy of 16 myself. Watched the game with 2 good friends (Fins and Jags fans).
What I recall from that game was that RJ was terrible (IIRC, he got the start against the Colts the week prior and the Bills blew them out...possibly the worst possible outcome besides a loss, since RW was so insistent on playing the QB that they highly-invested in, and that score helped the decision to play him over Flutie), but the defense was good, but put in a tough spot by the offense (QB) that day. Even still, the Bills did enough on offense to take a late lead.
As for the "miracle" at the end...I've always thought it was a forwars pass, or at least not a true backwards lateral, but there really wasn't enough "conclusive" evidence to overturn. I've had several non-biased fans tell me that it was a good lateral, and while I still have never been fully convinced, it's enough for me to live with the call (what choice do we have?).
It was a roller coaster of emotion. When Christie made the kick, I jumped out of my chair and continued jumping with my arms up in celebration. After taking a late lead in a game that, in all honesty, the Bills offense didn't really deserve to win, the team as a whole did enough to give them a chance, and was suddenly staring victory in the face.
It was a different Bills team than what I had grown accustomed to seeing as a younger child in the early 90s (even though Reed and Smith were still there), but the feeling was back. I'm reminded of a quote from a commentator (Dierdorff?) from a Bills/Raiders playoff game in 93 or 94. It was like -15 that day, yet Hostettler and the Raiders had a considerable lead for much of the game. The Bills started making plays and made it a game, and he said something like "If there's one thing we know about the Bills, it's that you can never, ever, count them out"...a reference to the comeback game, among others by those early 90s teams. The Bills had just recaptured some of that in Nashville.
Then the "miracle" happened, and I went from pure elation, to literally falling to the floor in heartbreak in front of the friends that watched me celebrate prematurely (which I'm sure was a bit amusing to them, even though they knew the "pain" I just suffered). And as painful as that play was to watch, and then have to try and get over, the ensuing 17 years of playoff-less Bills football far exceeds thst pain IMO. Little did we know at that time, but that game and that play was truly the beginning of the end for what was overall a great decade of Bills football. Fitting that the game was played in early 2000.
Since then, a lot of fans have said with conviction that that call prevented the Bills from a Super Bowl, but I never felt that way. Sure, the defense was great that year, but I always believed that there were at least 2 or 3 teams in the AFC that were better overall. And with what was going on upstairs in Buffalo that year, it was bound to unravel. Discord between head coach and owner, a QB controversy that was forced, older players from the glory years getting burnt out...there was too much going on with that team away from the field to overcome the offensive shortcomings that would have inevetebly persisted in the field woth RJ at QB, great defense and all.
Interestingly enough, we are currently wondering if our offense and special teams can improve enough to the point where our great defense won't be "wasted". Fortunately, there is far more competence and collectiveness upstairs now than there was back then. It is up to the players now (and Daboll), as there appears to be no level of discord going in away from the field. That is the difference between a "miracle" and 17 ensuing years of no playoffs, and a new HC breaking the drought in what was perceived to be a tank year for the Bills by outsiders (and many Bills fans as well...).
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8 minutes ago, RememberTheRockpile said:
Dan Fouts said "he may be out cold". Nothing definitive. I agree, I don't think he was out either.
I think the head hitting the turf may have been the worst of it. The helmet to helmet was in the facemask area. Allen's helmet hit the turf on the side/rear.
But as far as being "out cold", Josh was reaching his arms for a lift from teammates pretty soon after the play, but (I assume) the trainers shut that down and made him stay on the ground.
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Gruden is getting a tough rep and is taking the heat for the Redskins' woes, and it's more the fault of people above him. His seat may be hot, but I don't think it's truly warranted. That said, getting axed by the Skins might be the best thing for him.
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[Vague Title] Super Bowl ?
in The Stadium Wall Archives
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The Bills aren't on the same level as the Cheats or the Chiefs, and the Texans are possibly a notch better overall, but get in the tourney, and anything can happen. Thing is, the way the Bills schedule is set up, they should have enough wins piled up over the next 5-6 games to only need another win or two to get in. And if they end up with 11 or 12 wins, they'll have earned that by beating some tough teams down the stretch, and that will be a huge confidence boost going into January. That also (likely) means that Allen has improved enough between now and then, and is limiting his turnovers. If that's the case, the Bills can certainly make a run.
But, there's a lot of football between now and then, and anything can happen.