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4th&long

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  1. 10 hours ago, ChiGoose said:

    Trump is a co-conspirator in Michigan's 2020 false electors plot, state investigator says

     

    "Michigan prosecutors consider former President Donald Trump and some of his top aides co-conspirators in the plot to submit a certificate falsely claiming he won Michigan's 2020 election, an investigator for Attorney General Dana Nessel's office testified Wednesday in court.

     

    Howard Shock, a special agent for Nessel, said Trump; Mark Meadows, who was Trump's chief of staff; and Rudy Giuliani, who was his personal lawyer, are "unindicted co-conspirators" in Michigan's false elector case. In total, over the last two days, Shock has identified 11 conspirators who haven't been charged. That means prosecutors believe they participated, to some extent, in an alleged scheme to commit forgery by creating a false document asserting Trump had won Michigan's 16 electoral votes when Democrat Joe Biden had won them.

     

    Shock's testimony came on the sixth day of preliminary examinations in Ingham County District Court as Nessel's office pursues felony charges against a group of Republican activists who signed the certificate of votes claiming Trump won."

     

    On a side note, was there some memo that went out on the right telling everyone to use the word "lawfare?" It's like the "collusion" BS all over again.

    Arizona also is charging people close to trump with the fake electors scheme. No charging trump yet tho.

  2. Outside of that I wouldn’t really argue with anything you posted. With all that being said I still don’t see trump winning because people hate him. Yes he’s got his base (I’ll be nice and won’t call it a cult) and he’s got people that will vote along party lines. But it’s that enough to win?

     

     I see at least 3 different groups on Twitter that are republicans against trump in there title in some form or another. I have not seen a  “Democrat against Biden group “ and y Twitter feed is open for both sides. I see stuff that supports trump no doubt but how big are these Republicans against trump movements getting? 
     

    and I said it before on here and I’ll say it again if you missed it. I’m not telling people to vote for Biden and not for trump. I know I won’t change anyone mind and I am not trying to. I get that people will vote party line and I don’t blame them. 

  3. 3 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    The thing is the MSM and DNC scrip worked when he was in office.

     

    Right now, most people have almost 4 years of feeling how Bad his foreign and domestic policies are, and how the DNC caters to everyone's needs, but Americans.

     

     

    when people have money to spend, its natural economies Vs this Tax and spend policy that goes directly to the very top.  and creates huge and artificial bubbles.

     

     

     

    again, it's the economy silly. and this one suck bad. 

     

    I read your story about the person with all these toys and that's the minority in this economy. Most are not doing anything near that.  eff, younger generations cant even afford to move out, better yet start buying all those things you mentioned.

     

    Republicans anymore, are funded by the same group that funds the dems. and no matter who is in power, the rules are created and maintained for the very crust that openly buys them.

     

     

    Why people voted for the unknown Obama over Hillary, and the Non establishment trump over the establishment GOP or Hillary in 2016

     

    Funny how the media stated that if the orange dude won in 2020 it would lead to WW3, economic collapse, inflation, with only the very top doing good.

     

    but here it is the establishment pollicies that are driving just that.  

     

    And again, what's your idea of what replaces this?  you a REVCOM.US person?  Anarchist?  Libertarian?

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I don’t even know what revcom. Us is? And no I’m not the other things. I don’t recall saying either of them are going anywhere or away at this point. Personally I just want peace, don’t like Biden much, I like trump a lot less and I never trusted the govt. or anyone involved. Do you want to get into the biblical aspect of what I believe will happen in the future? I doubt it. I know I don’t care to on a message board all I’ll say is the US is the last major world power prophesied about in the Bible. And these morons comparing anything trump does to Jesus?🤦

  4. 39 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    That made more sense when trump was in office. Now people feel Bidens agenda that's negatively impacting the majority.  

     

    whats the old saying, "its the economy silly" and the economy sucks for most out side of the very top. 

     

    the abortion/lgbt youth wedge topic is dominating the folks on the left.  and in turn because DEM PACS are targeting them. 

     

    , the ones that are not responsible for things like wealth, bills and taxes.

     

     

    And what is the solution to both parties like you stated above?

     

     

     

     

     

     

    And those people just lost their memory right? 
     

    If people can think for themselves and reason they remember who was in office when the economy started sinking. Or are you trying to rewrite history? They know why gas prices tanked under trump. 
    I’m not trying to say Biden is blameless but people do have memories and can think for themselves. 

     

    all these prices going up sucks but I bet you didn’t miss a meal. You have all the clothes you need. Probably a few cars in the driveway? Sports car in storage? Boat? I have friends who have 1 of everything and I mean everything, horses, one has a bus he’s converting to a camper. Vacations multiple times a year. And then gripe about the economy. I just laugh inside.

     

     Yes people don’t like Biden they also don’t like trump. It is a race to the bottom unfortunately for this country. 
     

    and that lgbtq and abortion stuff is why you don’t see me commenting or even talking to the Dems on here. Stuff I could never support. 
     

    My guess is the republicans would be better for the country and they will be better off when trump is gone. I’m sure the policies will be the same under a different Republican leader. I think republicans would have been better served with a different nomination other than trump. If they could put forth someone who could walk and chew gum at the same time Biden wouldn’t have a chance! Wouldn’t even be a conversation. But as it is I can see republicans are worried that trump will lose again by all the name calling and other childish behavior going on on here. And of course democrats are worried, look at who their leader is. This election is about who is hated least.

  5. 21 minutes ago, Gregg said:

     

    Disagree with you on the bold. People can hate Trump all they want but his policies were better for the average American than Joey's. Inflation is out of control. Illegals coming here in record numbers and Americans (both Democrat/Republican) hate that. Also remember a vote for Joey is really a vote for Kamala and neither side cares for her. The chances of drooling vegetable surviving another 4 years are slim and none. We can probably rule out slim.

    I don’t disagree with you on this but accept to say that you missed my point. People hate trump that much and he will lose by a wider margin this time.

     

     Not doubt Biden is old. I don’t have disrespect for old people. And that is exactly what I was talking about with interchanging Biden and trump. That just reveals people character when they talk like that. Plenty of haters of trump on Twitter that post stuff of him just rambling and nothing but gibberish coming out of his mouth that makes no sense. Do I need to post them here? I would but it really serves no purpose. But what it’s trumps excuse? Biden is old. Trump? 
     

    if you want to get into policies? finally someone that might have a little sense. 
     

    what policies would that be? The ones that have the US producing more oil ever under Biden even more than when trump was Pres? 
     

    do you want to talk about oil? I hope you have looked into it more than just to say prices at that pump are high, it must be Biden fault! That won’t even be worth a response.

    13 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

    If you truly believe that Joe Biden, who hardly campaigned, and when he did spoke to an average of 12 people, actually received 81 million legitimate votes...

     

    Then I'm sorry to let you know that its high comedy when you accuse OTHERS of being in a cult.

    Prove it. Just saying it means nothing. And tweets from Johnny maga are not proof and mean nothing!

     

    I told my family years ago to prove it. Don’t come to me with conspiracy theories and speculation and right wing talking points from podcasts. I told them if they had proof to file their own law suit! That ***** got shot down by trump appointed judges. Embarrassing!

  6. 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said:

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    :lol:

     

    Still wasting time here with the rest of us!

    Yup. Unfortunately I have way too much time on my hands, so you are going to be blessed with my presence a little longer. I’m hear just to dance on your grave. Both sides. 
     

    post more tweets from Johnny maga. Like they mean anything. 
     

    My thought is you are way more intelligent than you show on here. why don’t you use it? 

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  7. 4 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    Yes.  We know. 

     

    Team blue good, 

     

    orange man bad.  

     

    Eff inflation, its about gdp.  

     

     

     

    They both suck in my opinion.

     

     It’s a race to the bottom. Who , which side will grow up and realize it should be just the opposite? My guess is neither side and the country will be continue to circle the drain!

  8. 20 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    Team blue call anyone NOT 100% supportive of team blue, insults. 

     

    Team Blue policies are only working for the very top of the food chain.  Right now, everyone is feeling it.

     

    and why their supporters constantly talk about the other guy vs the daily failures of their teams polices.

     

    it's as clear as day to anyone outside the mob/cult of blue.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    This is funny for two reasons. 
     

    first anything that is said about one side can be said about the other also. 

     

    bother sides have massive failures! 

     

    whatever people say about Biden I laugh at when I watch trump because the same can be said of him. And you can say that that with the names reversed!

     

     And a lot of people hate trump SO MUCH that they are willing to pay more for stuff etc… just so trump is not in office!!!  It is not a vote for Biden, it is a vote against trump! 
     

    so when I hear people say that 81 million people voted against trump or for Biden I laugh. You better believe they did! And it will be more next time. To The detriment of our country. 
     

     

    both sides need to clean up their own house then turn their attention to the other side. 

     

     

    now some of you are childish enough to call me names for this I’m sure, and whatever, the most useless thing in the world is to call someone names on a message board, but it doesn’t mean it’s not the truth!

     

    Now, yes, I called people names in the few weeks I spent on this side of the board but that is why I took most of a week or so out of here to reset. I wasn’t even trying, I just seen it was a ***** show over here and joined in.

     

    i am shocked that no one tries to get people on their side? Maybe it’s because you won’t really change someone’s mind on a message board? But I guarantee you won’t change someone’s mind with the ***** that goes on here.

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  9. On 4/15/2024 at 7:58 PM, BillStime said:

     

    I used to ask my brother this all the time. What was it going to take for him to stop supporting trump? It was January 6th. He told me that was enough for him. He will vote for trump again I’m sure because he will vote party lines but he doesn’t defend him or praise him (worship) him any more!

    12 hours ago, BillStime said:

     

    These people and people like them are sick! This kind of stuff proves it’s a cult of some sort. Man are they in for a rude awakening! I don’t know when it’s going to come but rest assured it will! And it’s not from an earthly source.

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  10. If anyone wants our cares anymore, there has been a lot on tv about the case since oj dropped dead. I was watching one where the lead investigator and the M.e. Walked you thru the evidence that WASAN’T presented at trial. Things they were wanting Clark to bring out and telling her to in some instances. Even things that would have countered the police were biased or framing oj. 
     

    The bottom line is the guy did it and got away with it.

     He went there to kill her and Ron came in at the wrong time. Ron fought like hell and lost.

     

    I feel for the Goldman family and now oj’s lawyers who will be the executor of the will is trying to crap on them. Thankfully the courts will prevent that!

  11. On 4/11/2024 at 4:12 AM, plenzmd1 said:

    Why don’t you show all the times Josh missed him? Line in London? Like in Miami? Twice!

    Were those games playoff games with the game on the line to the eventual Super Bowl champs? Did Josh text about Diggs afterwards? That is where Diggs lost me. Dropping the pass and fumbling earlier in the game were one thing. Tweeting about Josh after that? He wanted out obviously and the bills clearly wanted to move on!

  12. 5 hours ago, Wacka said:

    You are  the one that has to resort to swearing and name calling. Mark of a small mind.

    Your first Words were literally “hey dummy”! Is that not an insult? I don’t have a brain and all the rest of the crap that resulted from my first response to nc today. 
     

    i was trying to be straight up sincere with the lady today. And that was your response. And you expect me to not call names and such? That’s all this side of the board is. I’m just trying to fit in. 
     

    there is so much ***** over here it’s laughable!

    59 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:

    That’s cool. Billsy is no more obsessive than many of the righties here tho. And he actually debates. As was said, it would be boring without disagreement. But I wish the two sides weren’t so far apart. 

    Is there debate over here? There are like three good posters over here and I’m not claiming to be one of them! You certainly are with this post and a few others I’ve read. I won’t even try. This place is a cesspool!

  13. 5 hours ago, stinky finger said:

    Or, in your case, murderers row. ;)

    He came off the bench.  He's a first rounder. You call out one play he made and you say coach him up.

     

    He doesn't fit here. I think he something to offer, just not here.

    Could be. I just don’t see him bringing much a trade. Hopefully whatever the problem is changes but probably wishful thinking. 
     

     

  14. 8 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

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    Declared weeks ago upon arrival:

     

    1. Had fun during pandemic lockdown. :lol:

     

    2. Is apolitical. :lol:

     

    3. Has never voted. Not even once.  Ever.

     

    4. Is only here due to current boredom....yet wasn't bored during lockdown. 

     

    5. Wondered why anyone would waste their time here....

     

    6. Has increasingly spent more time here. :lol:

     

     

    Yes, almost covers it. And? You must have a point. Or are you dumber than I thought? 

    It triggers you that I’m apolitical. That is why I stick around. Why should I miss out on the fun?

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