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    Bills v cowgirls first half thread

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    After the way this team has struggled mightily with clock management this season that last minute just proved they have done nothing to improve on it...

     

    I like Tyrod...But there is no excuse for that garbage...Just terrible...

     

    So none of the blame is on Hogan, who just stood there like a statue and didn't bother to go for the ball or try to knock it loose?

    We Need A Real QB

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by Felonious Monk

    You mentioned Tyrod's contract. We'll see how the team plays their hand, heading into their QB's contract season - but if the Bills front office is thinking like the majoirty of the fanbase, I would expect a nice fat paycheck heading his way. Perhaps it will be easy to get out of, but I just don't think that's what this team needs now. The problem, with being in QB purgatory is that trying harder to cement a player as "your guy" can end up hurting you more in the long run.

    Some really good points here. It's a damned if you do/damned if you don't situation. Pay Tyrod and if he busts (like Fitz), you're sitting on heaps of dead money. Don't pay him and watch him (with our luck) go to a team within the division and (with our luck) light it up against us for years. I would love to see what TT can do working with the same OC (be it Roman or whomever) for more than one year. If he regresses next year, I'll be his harshest critic. But I really believe he has the heart and work ethic to go the other way. Ryan L Billz had a good take: "Tyrod's amazing 50 percent of the time." He has shown flashes of awesomeness (among flashes of WTF?), and he can throw the football with touch unlike any QB we've had seen since Flutie. Now it's all about consistency. If he goes from 50% to 65+% next year, I'm confident we'll have our franchise guy. How much is he willing to put into it for that 15%? If the answer is "everything," he controls his own destiny.

     

    UNLESS... If the discipline issues aren't resolved and the Bills commit even 80% of the penalties next year that they did this year, no quarterback in the league would go very far, much less one with only a year as a starter. When a 3rd and 4 consistently becomes a 3rd and 14 due to some random hack's lack of focus, lapse in judgment or hot-headedness, it kills drives and makes the QB's life hell -- nevermind the TDs or would-be first-down completions that are called back because of some hold 40 feet from the ball. On defense, a dopey defensive PI penalty that turns a 3rd and 14 into a 1st and goal only leads to more points Tyrod has to overcome. It's a shame these stats don't show up in the box score.

    and change your avatar. i have a pavlovian response every time i see it and start drooling.

     

    Over/under, percentage-wise, on TBD posters who know who Pavlov was without Googling? :nana:

    We Need A Real QB

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by Felonious Monk

    Hey man FWIW, this year as of right now Buffalo has the #1 rush offense in the NFL. Look it up! Umm, Taylors season does have extreme similarities to Foles season a couple of years ago. Your rant is kinda meaningless.

     

    The Bills should absolutely not stop looking for a QB upgrade. I hope to god they do not feel complacent with TT as QB. If they do they are doomed because the reality of it is TT is not a great QB, he is average, I would hope they want better than average.

     

    So THAT is what you took away from my "rant?" I can see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. No problem. I don't mind getting in the gutter with trolls.

     

    Guess who put the Bills rush offense over the top? That's right -- TT and his 450 rushing yards, genius. Look it up! Umm...

    We Need A Real QB

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

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    You can look to the season where Nick Foles threw for 27 TDs and 2 INTs. He was very safe, but, like Tyrod didn't necessarily use dump-offs for his numbers. He led the league in Y/A, TD%, and QB Rating. He only started 10 games that year, and outside of Philly I'm not sure people thought he was the real deal. Most talked about this regression toward the mean with meaningful pass attempts, and you all know what happened the following year.

     

    I don't think that's a fair comparison. Forget Y/A, TD% and QB rating. Let's look past all of Foles' personal stats in 2013. He played behind the best offensive line in the NFL, and it wasn't even close.The Eagles' o-line was #1 in run blocking, which helped Shady (a top-two running back) rack up 2,146 yards from scrimmage. That took a lot of pressure off Foles and opened things up nicely, giving him lots of time back there. Add to that the fact that all five starting offensive linemen started every game that year, including the playoffs -- and all five played together for 5839 of 5945 snaps -- an average of 98.18% -- and Foles' "magical" season suddenly becomes a lot more explainable. Evan Mathis and Jason Peters played at an All-Pro level, and while Jason Kelce wasn't quite there, he was very good. So was Todd Herremans. The Eagles' #4 overall pick that year -- RT Lane Johnson -- was the "weakest link," allowing 10 sacks -- but he was excellent against the run, outplaying the two linemen taken before him in that draft, and being ranked 10th through 12th in the league that year (depending on publication you're referencing) among all OTs. As for system, Philly ran the spread offense under Chip Kelly, which Foles knew well from his days as a Wildcat.

     

    In response to the other bolded point, I don't think we all know -- or care to acknowledge -- what happened the following year. Mathis and Kelce missed significant time with injuries, Johnson served a four-game suspension to start the season and key backup Allen Barbre's season ended Week 1. Their replacements were awful. The decimated line also affected Shady, who had only five rushing TDs and didn't catch a single TD pass. The OL started playing well again as the injured guys healed up -- just in time to see Sanchez under center. I have no idea what the Rams were thinking when they traded for Foles. While Rex forced the Bills' defense to learn his scheme this year, the Rams went the other way and devised an offense that catered to Foles -- shotgun heavy. It was completely unfamiliar to the team and was a disaster, leading to the firing of their offensive coordinator mid-season and Foles' benching.

     

    I'm not saying Foles is good. He is mediocre at best, and that's being generous. My point is that you or I could have had success behind the Eagles' OL in 2013. The sad reality is that the Bills' OL is nowhere near that caliber. And then there are penalties. While the 2013 Eagles committed 99 accepted penalties for 889 yards through 17 games, the Bills this year have committed 132 penalties for 1,142 yards with two games left to play. How fans can't understand what that does to a QB is beyond me. Considering that Roman is TT's fifth offensive coordinator in five years and that TT learned everything through osmosis riding the pine watching Flacco, I'd say TT has done very well as a first-year starter. Think Baltimore would welcome him back these days? I do.

     

    As others have stated, any NFL team's goal should be to improve at every position. In 2016, free agency won't be a viable option at QB, with Sam Bradford leading the free agent class. If there's a promising QB that falls to us in the draft, grab him and let him and TT battle it out in training camp, as others have suggested in this thread. The Bills have very little invested in TT and if he flames out, oh well. What is their cap hit for TT next year -- just over $1 million? Contrary to what others have written in this thread, there is no elite QB in next year's class. Despite this, Lynch will be gone by the time the Bills pick, and Goff, too, with Cleveland, San Francisco and Philly in the market -- and possibly Dallas, San Diego and New Orleans due to aging franchise QBs. One could grab Conor Cook, who is physically gifted but mentally immature and has character issues. I've been reading that NFL scouts don't like him because they say he's "more interested in being a celebrity." Johnny Football II, anyone? No thanks. (He'd be a great fit in Dallas, though). Who's next? Conklin, if he declares? IMO he's a reach in the first round and would be gone by the time the Bills are up in Round 2.

     

    With free agency a laughable option and the top QBs likely gone by the time the Bills pick, I think Tyrod's detractors will be very disappointed next year.

    We Need A Real QB

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted · Edited by Felonious Monk

    I'm so sick of "Tyrod's not the reason we lost" crap. True, Tyrod has played well enough for us to win games we've lost. But in those games he didn't play well enough to win them. And that's why we will never be good with Tyrod ... Tyrod is no where near Rothlisberger and he never will be.

     

    Let me get this straight: You're comparing a 12-year starter to a first-year starter? A first-round pick to a sixth-round pick? A QB whose first head coach was a respected winner, with a 149-90-1 career record, and second head coach, with a 91-51 record, to a QB whose head coach is a buffoon whose career record is 52-58? A QB with a $17.2 million cap hit to a QB with an $883K cap it? Yup, apples to apples right there.

     

    Hey, look...to everybody who thinks Taylor is the answer, let me ask you this...when was this team great? The answer is under Kelly...who was a franchise QB and one of the best in the league. And when have we sucked? When we have QB's like Taylor...

     

    Now we're comparing TT to a Hall of Famer who benefited by playing alongside heaps of other Hall of Famers, led by a Hall of Fame coach who reported to a Hall of Fame GM. Question: When Kelly led the Bills to a 4-12 season in his first year as a starter, did you want him run out of town, too? Care to compare Kelly's stats as a first-year starter to TT's? Just let me know.

     

    I'd take Tannehill, Bortles and Osweiler over TT, but wait I no nothing.

     

    When you post that you'd trade Mario Williams straight up for John Skelton, you make it hard for anyone to take you seriously. Not flaming, just being honest. I get why you're so high on Tannehill. After all, he's led the Dolphins to the playoffs 4? 3? 2 1 0 times since he became the Dolphins' starting QB. But who are we to talk with our playoff drought, right? Let's make it a bit more fair for Mr. Tannehill. He has led the Fins to 4 3 2 1 0 winning seasons since he became their starter. Overall, he's 2-6 against Buffalo, including two blowout losses to the Bills (and... ahem... Tyrod Taylor) this year. All that said, I firmly believe Tannehill will be a very good franchise (backup) QB someday.

     

    No, TT isn't playing like an all-pro, but what the heck do you guys expect? To say it's all on him -- or even mostly -- is laughable. Rex is a bust who has lost this team. They don't respect him, and they don't seem to have a desire to play hard for him (like they did for Schwartz last year against the Lions -- remember that?) Our defense is horrific largely because of Rex and his stupid scheme which is, at best, a square peg/round hole situation with players who excelled in another scheme just before he arrived. We're second in the league in penalties, which, by the way, have negated a ton of completion yards by TT and have forced him into 3rd-and-long situations all year. But, of course, those are just "excuses" because we are hell-bent on crucifying a sixth-round pick in his first full season even though he has exceeded all rational expectations.

    Shining a light on Shady

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    As many of you know, I've been a vocal detractor of the LeSean McCoy acquisition.

     

    I made my points this summer and early in the season and all I could do was let the season play out.

     

    Though I wish I was wrong, I was not.

     

    I am wondering if the picture is coming into focus for some of you.

     

    LeSean is nowhere near being a superstar. Not close.

     

    He is a nice back. He is VERY entertaining but he is barely above average in terms of production.

     

    For all his shiftiness......he doesn't make big plays.......he's a singles hitter.........and combine that with his frequent net-zero runs and inability to be physical in short yardage and you understand why a guy with such fancy feet lead the NFL in FEWEST yards per play in 2014.

     

    I know there are many people still in denial.....like I said, he is entertaining......but it is not just a coincidence that less than great backs like Karlos and Gilliislee come in and regularly make big runs while Shady has one big play(48 yarder in home game versus Miami) to show for 200 plus carries.

     

    We all know this is NOT a great OL. But the plays are there.......other backs are making them.

     

    The OTHER backs are also more physical.

     

    If you are going to run for 4.2-4.4 ypc like Shady has 3 of the past 4 seasons......then one would hope that a physical toll is being exacted on the defense.

     

    With Shady there is NONE of that.

     

    McCoy was a bad scheme fit for this offense.

     

    There is no inside game with him in there and we saw the past two weeks that opponents familiar with McCoy knew this and rendered him relatively ineffective.

     

    I am not saying that Karlos or Gillislee are the answers......but IMO, two years of average production from McCoy prove to me that he is NOT.

     

    And now, the Bills are on the hook for $20M+ in guaranteed money for him going forward.

     

    Why can't Karlos be the answer? I'd like to see a lot more of him.

    2015-16 Buffalo Bills Positive Thread

    in The Stadium Wall Archives

    Posted

    I still like TT for QB

     

    Defense - no words

     

    I don't get the TT hate in other posts. Like it or not, he's our starter next year (and beyond, I believe). Still think he's the best QB we've had since Bledsoe. Sure, he makes some bad throws, but ludicrous penalties force quite a bit of that.

     

    Hard to keep on topic with this thread, but to me, the positive of the season is that TT is building chemistry with Watkins. I wish their success didn't come in garbage time, but I'll take it.

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