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Kemp

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  1. 14 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    Maybe you weren't paying attention John but, despite not wanting to leave office, he actually did.

     

     

    Only because he couldn't pull it off.

     

    He will do it if he can if given another chance and his supporters here, and everywhere else, will say it's the right thing.

     

    That's guaranteed.

    13 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    You'd think they'd want to bring weapons to a planned coup.

     

    It's not about the crowd wanting a coup. It's about Trump wanting a coup, and the people in Congress backing his attempt.

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  2. 16 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    You, me, our consitution, congress, SCOTUS...

     

    You and me can do zero.

     

    He has already stated that the Constituion should sometimes be ignored.

     

    Let's say he is President and does something Unconstitutional. 

     

    We know that Republicans will do absolutely nothing to hold him accountable. They have already demonstrated that.

     

    Let's say it goes to the Supreme Court. I honestly don't know how they would vote. The only one I'm positive would side with him is Thomas.

     

    Here's the most interesting part. Let's say the court rules against Trump.

     

    What prevents Trump from saying screw you. I will do what I want.

     

    I don't know for certain, but I don't believe the Court has any way to enforce their ruling. Do you know if they can?

     

    Saying this can't happen isn't an answer. It's avoiding the whole thing.

     

     

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  3. 5 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    Your post began with...why do trump supporters...

     

    I began my response noting that I am not a trump supporter to put my response in context. Sorry you didn't follow that.

     

    Trump supporters support trump. I'm not sure it's any more complicated than that.

     

    You can't answer a question about Trump supporters because you're not a Trump supporter?

    Great reasoning.

    Why do Trump supporters still support him when every single person who worked for him in the White House is now warning America what will happen if he gets there again?

    I know you're not a Trump supporter, but you can still have an opinion.

    5 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    He told them what he believed.  They believed it as well.  You're not making any points here.

     

    Are you finally admitting they believed it because he said it?

    Would they have believed it if he hadn't said it?

  4. 5 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    Trump will have no bearing on his success or lack thereof. He will absolutely not be allowed to by America. You and Billsy screaming at clouds over this is the silliest thing, really!

     

    Define what you mean by America in this statement.

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  5. 15 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    I'm not a supporter of Trump. I never have and never will support him. I do, however, support the constitution and our democracy. Why do Trump haters want to turn the US into a banana republic?

    I don't care who you support. 

     

    I asked you a different question.

    Any opinions on it?

    14 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    I don't care who gave what back immediately upon being asked.  I care about why people had material for years and what they may have done with it.  Otherwise it's just a property crime.

     

     

    So the theory is they came there to overthrow the government?  Without weapons?  And they left on their own without finishing the job?  Good one.

     

    They were there because Trump told them a lie for years.

    True or false?

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  6. 3 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    Yes, whatever their reason for being there, there was no justification or prompting by anyone to break into the Capitol.  Should I say it even slower for you?

     

    Yeah.

    It remains a mystery to you why they were there that day.

    Don't worry about how slow you talk.

    It's not about your not being able to figure out why they were there.

    It's about your being afraid to acknowledge truth.

    You know why they were there.

    Everyone knows why they were except perhaps Farley.

    2 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    If these are, history is missing a shytload of additional indictments against others, including the sitting president. Pass me a ham sandwich.

     

    Biden returned his documents.

    Biden didn't try to overthrow an election.

    Maybe you are a ham sandwich.

    1 hour ago, Tenhigh said:

    Biden isn't coordinating anything beyond the stock selection of frozen desserts in the White House walk-in. Your right on that point Kemp.

     

    Tell that to the other Trump fool in this thread.

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  7. 2 hours ago, AlBUNDY4TDS said:

    Did u vote for Biden? How dare you question others reasoning.....

     

    Which is it?

    Is Biden senile or a mastermind?

    Here's a clue.

    He can't be both.

     

    1 hour ago, Doc said:

     

     

    Whatever the reason they were there, there was no justification for breaking into the Capitol and Trump never even came close to telling them to do it.

     

    Whatever the reason?

    They all happened to be there by coincidence.

    You've solved it.

    2 hours ago, Tommy Callahan said:

    I like most think he is a pathetic failure.  It's weekend at Bernie with him.  This is the third priorities USA term.  

     

     

     

    So, he's not a mastermind?

    You guys gotta get your narratives straight.

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  8. On 1/14/2024 at 10:19 AM, T master said:

     

    If Trump is a fascist what does that make Joe ? Besides a complete lying incompetent dum ass politician i mean ? 

     

    He's lied about most all things Hunter, his border policy SUCKS & lies about it, He lied about the vaccine not allowing people to get the virus, he's plagiarized , and being a life long politician there's no telling what else he's lied about over the years .

     

    Oh so then they are both a huge POS then right ??

     

    You can b***h and moan about the other guy all you want but if this is what you voted for it says a ton about you, just saying ...

     

    When Joe tries to overthrow the government, you'll have a comparison worth making.

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  9. On 1/13/2024 at 11:13 AM, Doc said:

     

    Because they were stupid.  Trump also told them to "peacefully and patriotically make [their] voices heard."  Obviously they didn't listen.  And to date not a single person has said that Trump or anyone else told them to break into the Capitol, which is the only reason the whole "insurrection" nonsense started.

     

    Why do you suppose that, despite being allowed inside the Capitol in droves and sorely outnumbering the pathetically meager number of CPOs, they left after a few hours without even starting the job, much less finishing it?

     

     

    Are you saying they weren't there and angry because Trump told them the Deep State stole the election from them?

    On 1/13/2024 at 11:26 AM, Pokebball said:

    Ahh, thanks for asking and giving me the opportunity to clarify. I did say I hope Trump is found guilty "of a serious criminal charge". Why? I've stated previously that I don't believe Trump has the character to serve as POTUS. I've never believed he did, and as a result, I've never voted for him. I never will.

     

    At this time, I don't believe he's being charged with a serious criminal crime. The charges are part of your banana republic efforts to not allow him to run for political office.

     

    In short, the difference between you and I is our belief in our constitution. You are willing to trash it to meet your partisan needs and goals. I'm not.

     

    Refusing to give back classified documents isn't a serious crime?

    Trying to overturn a Presidential election isn't a serious crime?

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  10. 11 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    As for the first bolded sentence, lawyers try all sorts of tricks like this.  Look at Letitia James' idiotic lawsuit against Trump.

     

    And thank you for the 2nd bolded sentence.  No, Trump did not tell anyone to break into the Capitol and in fact told them before and just after violence broke out to be peaceful.  Obviously they didn't listen. 

     

    The reality is that all it takes is for one idiot to do something stupid, like break into the Capitol, of their own volition and then other idiots decide it's a good idea to do the same.  It was like what we saw play out over and over during the Summer of 2020.  One idiot decides to smash a store window and a bunch of other idiots start looting the place.  It's shameful no matter who does it and there is no excuse for it.

     

    Again I have no issue punishing those who broke laws.  I do have an issue with those who were allowed in either by CP or doors that magically opened.  But that's it.

     

    Why do you believe people broke into the Capitol?

     

    If you believe it's for any reason other than Trump told them for years that the election would be and was stolen from them, I would love to hear it.

    10 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    Honestly, I hope he's found guilty on a serious criminal charge. Until then, however, the Dems appear to have gone completely banana republic.

     

    On one hand you say you hope Trump is found guilty of a crime. On the other, you say the pursuit of convicting Trump makes us a banana republic.

     

    If you hope he is found guilty you believe he is guilty.

     

    This seems like a logic disconnect to me.

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  11. 38 minutes ago, Pokebball said:

    If someone is found guilty, absolutely.

     

    7 1/2 years of throwing shyt on the wall trying to find something that sticks, and civil cases up your ass aren't it.

     

    And I'm not a Trump fan or supporter. I'm just not willing to go all banana republic like you. I'm against authoritarian actions and love our constitution.

     

    I'm surprised you're unaware that Trump is being prosecuted in 2 CRIMINAL cases.

    You love our Constitution.

    I'm with you.

    Trump wants to get rid of it.

    If he gets back in control, he'll do that, and his supporters will cheer the end of America.

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  12. 5 hours ago, Doc said:

     

    Yes.  Now my turn.

     

    Did Trump tell protestors to break into the Capitol?

     

    Thanks for admitting that a President can be jailed without a Senate conviction.

     

    It's refreshing to see you refute Trump's absolutely idiotic stance.

    On your question, no he did not. 

     

    However, what he did do was spread the lie that his supporter's votes were stolen, causing him to lose. That's what led to what happened on 1/6. 

    Back to you, why didn't Trump attempt to stop the riot and break-in on 1/6, despite all of his advisors and his daughter begging him to do so?

    Why did he call the rioters great people?

    Do you think they were great people?

    There are lots of other questions, but that's all for now.

    Again, and most importantly, thank you for admitting that Trump can be incarcerated if a jury finds him guilty of criminal acts.

    5 hours ago, Pokebball said:

    Which party wants to jail it's opposition?

     

    If you commit a crime you should pay for that crime, no matter your Party affiliation.

    Disagree?

    Doc agrees with me.

     

    Take it up with him.

     

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